Urijah Faber vs Michael McDonald Fight Video UFC on Fox 9.
Fixed. Straight out fixed fight. McDonald wasn’t even fighting. Reminds me of Rory Vs. Ellenberger.
And what’s up with all these free fox cards losing all their big fights and those fighters moved straight onto PPV’s. It’s been happening consistently now. LOL… they even canceled the Brown vs. Condit fight outright even though many fans were clamoring for it. They’re now facing different opponents. Fox Executives better smarten up. UFC is playing them with no Vaseline. Submitting a great card for their approval and then pulling popular “injured” fighters off the cards like clockwork. Flyweight title fights!!! No thanks. They’re on Fox for a reason because they don’t sell on PPV. It’s painfully obvious they’re ruining these free cards and stacking their PPV’s with all the best match ups and popular fighters. If UFC wants to stack PPV’s then do it but don’t make strong Fox cards and then slowly dismantle them all with an agenda behind it. I know the UFC is into craft but this is getting horribly obvious.
Stop sniffing Glue! you’re conspiracy theories are rubbish
what the eff is this guy talking about? ^
sorry. that was meant for the guy above EpicOz.
@BigFish-time to clean up the basement,otherwise your mommy won’t le you play with your hotwheels! Get a clue before posing such comment you “analyst wannabe!
Awesome perfomance, DAMN!
McDonald respected Urijah too much. I saw this coming…
Even at the weight-in’s hes constantly smiling/laughing. smiling at the fight-stairdown… initiating the hand bumps…
Yes young, he’ll learn from this. Hes not your friend during the fight. Be his friend after.
The Internet…the largest collection of dipshits in the world!
McDonald needs a bit more BEEF on his bones!!
All you talking crap go change your names to naive. You’re base and don’t understand the level of craft the UFC employes in order to protect their money and company. Many of the UFC contender fights are now fixed and all these “injuries” are not legit. They use these injuries to sell tickets, make more money and give the impression all their cards are stacked.
Many questioned the TJ Grant injury and the way Pettis went from 145 to 155 title shot in Milwaukee. Pettis vs. Aldo sold many tickets in Brazil then they got Aldo vs. Zombie. Before that Milwaukee Grant vs Henderson wasn’t selling then when Pettis switched it sold out. Great way to sell out two events with only one solid headliner. Dana White said Pettis wouldn’t fight Henderson due to medically being taken out of 145 title fight with Aldo but then fights anyway. It’s all craft and you need to be smart to figure it out so that explains why you can’t. You’re too dull and base to think the world doesn’t work like that. Insult me all you want but when you grow up you’ll learn this is exactly how the world works. BTW I’m 40 years old and have actually lived life I just don’t like being lied to so I call it like I see it. The UFC is shady and if you think they’re a straight shooter I honestly feel sorry for you.
^ That’s a funny thing for an MMAMessiah to say on the internet, lol. You’re going to alienate your disciples… And,
What if bigFishLittlepond is EXACTLY right. I bet he is. Yeah. I KNOW he is. He’s an insider. Has an ear to Dana White’s inner circle and can deliver on inside secrets. Tell us secrets bigFish. Come on man, we want to win in Vegas homie. You tell us, we’ll win. Like clockwork. Lol.
conspiracy what an idiot all a fix don’t think so very impressed by faber great performance
Wow Faber! Great fight!
I love how folks react when someone points at the business aspect of the fight game, that aspect wherein millionaires see TO IT that it goes like an assembly line where profit is predictable and manageable, as in fixing fights.
When you start threatening people’s sense of living in a world that isn’t exacting what it seems at all times then you’re a conspiracy nut or a glue sniffer. It’s really a pathetic excuse for rebuttal and is akin to chimps flinging their feces at what they can’t even wrap their brains around.
Corruption is rampant all around and if you think the fight game is an exception then you’re an idiot.
Nevermind. My baf.
@bigFishLittlepond…Take your meds, they will make you better.
Like Joe Dog said, you should take your meds. Matt Brown vs Carlos Condit was canceled because MAtt Brwon has 2 herniated discs in his back and it happened Dec 7th. That’s why the fight was cancelled. Not because some reptilian executives are trying to manipulate your favorite sport you dummy.
How about you lay off the crack pipe and go train at a gym for a month, 6-8 hours a week then you can talk about injuries being faked or not you piece of s***. You’re probably a fat F*** eating cheetos all day and watching MMA thinking: “I could take that guy” Get a clue you retard.
6-8 hours a day**
bigfish does have a point, corruption is everywhere and at the end of the day they are a business looking to make easy money. i’d hate to see the UFC follow the same fate as pride tho
but besides the condit vs brown fight i was looking forward to quite a bit others and was happy with matches on this card
Well Dana did lie and say GSP went to the hospital and tried to keep GSP away from post fight presser. Really should make you wonder…
Speaking of delusional…since, “God trained me”, do you suppose that McDonald will make a change in his camp and actually work with real human trainers and not an imaginary bearded old guy who lives in the stratosphere and tells you not to get laid? The kid has potential but needs focus.
@bigFishLittlepond Quit bitching. I’ve seen fixed fights, and they sure as hell don’t look like that. Sorry it wasn’t the outcome you wanted, but it was legit.
First off Kung poo low kick fuk off. I train plenty and I talk smack in person about many sports (not just MMA) and the corruption that lies therein. No one says chit to me in person so you wouldn’t either. The UFC is just the poster boy for corruption these days and they have largely bought off the media so reporters don’t do their job. Like I said many here are followers and don’t even know how to think critically so they aren’t deep enough to detect it. The UFC is corrupt. You know the same Dana White that said Bob Arum fixed the Pacquiao vs. Bradley fight. Yeah… he should know right. Dip$hit.
Yikes!! Ok, bigFishLittlepond it seems you like banging a gavel yelling “corruption corruption!” how about injecting some logic and evidence into your conjectures. You say fights and injuries are fixed, why has no UFC fighter no matter how disgruntled (and there are lots) come forward with this info? Do you think McDonald doesn’t want a title shot? How come he didn’t go down after getting cracked the first time and chose to recover and fight on? At which time he landed a solid head kick before getting cracked 4 times after then choked out. Sometimes I too enjoying calling out companies as being corrupt then feeling like a smart individual…but you need to back this stuff up with more than “cause the rest of you are followers and I’m old and wise”.
Plenty of evidence pie you just have to learn how to put it together. McDonald already had a title shot and lost. He’ll get one in the future because he played the game. It’s all about kissing the ring. If you kiss the ring then even if you lose the UFC will help you as much as they can. Evidence is for those who care to look. I don’t care if none of you believe the UFC is at times rigged. It’ll just make you more clueless. I laugh when people call me out over the internet like I said it doesn’t happen in real life. The UFC has plenty of guys on these boards doing their propaganda. Nothing new just sad.
bigfishlittlepenis guy, you went FULL RETARD, never go FULL RETARD!!
Dam, grab a shovel because shiznit is getting deep in here! If the UFC was so fixed, how come so many fights or cards don’t live up to their hype? That’s bad for their bottom dollar but it happens quite often. If the UFC was so fixed would we have seen a UFC get cancelled like when JJ decided not to fight Sonnen? They lost a ton of money on that and Dana White was p!ssed. If its so fixed, then why is Dana White so p!ssed about cash cow GSP walking away? If it were fixed, they could have just had a fixed fight for JJ and had that card go on. Or they could have GSP continue to fight but have it fixed beforehand so he won’t have to deal with the pressure of it all.
If it were so fixed, would Dana have his cash cow Rousey come off looking like a complete unlikeable psycho? He’d make much more $$$ if she came off as likeable like Gina Carano was. How about Overeem losing like he did? He had the potential to become a huge cash cow for the UFC. Pretty sloppy planning for a company who is supposed to have the fix in on everything.
There are so many outcomes of fights or injuries that were bad for the UFC’s bottom dollar that there isn’t any real evidence to support some conspiracy theory that its all fixed. How about the positive test results of some fighters? If the UFC were so fixed, you would think no one would ever come up positive.
Dana White couldn’t get Fedor. He couldn’t get Cyborg. Those two failures seem out of tune for a company who is supposed to be on the fix and pulling the strings behind closed doors.
The UFC probably fixed the TUF so Tate could replace Cat, also, huh? That fake injury looked pretty real on the vids of Cat’s swelled up knee getting drained. Good special effects done there, it looked real and painful. And just so everyone knows, the NFL and pro bass fishing is also fixed. Now you know.
What does k9 stand for the 9th grade LOL. I know many posters on here are UFC apologists. Go ahead I’ll wait while you look up the word apologist… and so you’ll blindly and ignorantly stand up for the UFC no matter what. Guess what, I don’t care. I’ll always buffet you tards on these boards because you’re too dull to understand how things truly work. You want to know the truth? If Dana white was reading these boards he would have more respect for me for calling him on the truth then he would have for you blindly listening to everything he says. Of course, in the media he praises guys who defend him and mocks guys like me but behind closed doors he mocks sheeple like you and has a quiet respect for guys like me who question his nonsense. You don’t understand how craft works so I won’t explain it but in that world you give credit where it’s due or it’s required of you. So trust me. Trust me Dana White in Co. frown on sheeple followers like you and respect guys like me who don’t swallow every turd he throws into a microphone. It’s just like in fighting you respect guys who leave it all in the cage and you mock guys who fight safe. Dana White would call your style on these boards “safe” and my style, “Throwing Down.” He’s laughing at you and you can’t even see it. Man you guys need to wise up and learn how the world works. Don’t worry Ellenberger meant to not throw a punch for 15 minutes in his fight against Rory. LOL K9. Don’t forget the brown bag mommy packed you before you ride your bike to school, okay.
And thanks for the all caps I can’t understand comments when they’re written properly. Pencil neck.
You mad bigfishlittlepeepee? Your definitely delusional as all hell. Obviously your mentally mindf#cked on the fixed fight deal so nobody will be able to tell you any different or will you believe otherwise, seeing how you got it all figured out.
BTW Your critical thinking skills aren’t even 9th grade level. Whats on the side of a squad car when they have a canine? Oh that’s right, K9.
You’re just a newbie who won’t look at the evidence. Fights are fixed. Judges are paid off. I’m not saying all of them but the ones that protect the UFC’s bottom line. Let’s talk about judges. You know the same judges Dana White yells about in Vegas saying they’re horrible are the same judges he invites with his company to go overseas when they have a card in a country with no commission. Same with the referees. Dude… Dana White is counting your money and laughing at you. Get over it. Combat sports in Vegas have been fixed since the beginning.
So you’re a cop? Then go buy a encyclopedia and look up “good cop, bad cop” because that’s the swindle Dana White plays with the commission, the judges and the referees. When they do something he pays them to do and he knows it’s not going to be popular he puts on his potty face looks at the cameras and he rants and raves telling the press how bad they are and how things need to change and it’s just such a travesty. Good thing Pettis and Weidman finished their champs because Melendez, Hendricks and Gustafsson all won but the champs kept their title. Good for the UFC… right?
Any you think Gustafsson actually beat GSP in a popularity contest for the EA Sports Game cover? Dude… you’re the one whose delusional. You think GSP stepping away from the sport had anything to do with that outcome? Maybe just a little. Seriously… keep reading my posts and humble yourself because I’m introducing you to the real world.
For a 40 years old who does many combate sports, you sure have alot of time to waste.
Time is a matter of perspective. Good night.
Fish, your response to my post did not have any supporting evidence I’m afraid. “Lot’s of evidence if you can put it together” or “evidence is there for those who look” is not something you can use to back up a claim. Perhaps you are looking a little too hard? Time to move into the ocean, I suggest to take a debate or discrete math class to learn how to properly form an argument. Cheers.
Here’s my conspiracy theory bigfish- you’re 40, you live in your mom’s basement, you wear aluminum foil hats so the aliens can’t read your thoughts, you bet a $100 on mcdonald, instead of spending that money on your meds, and are pissed off because he lost.
nothing to be proud of this win after kicking the other fighter in the ball, yall know, 1 kick in that region will suck out all of the energy and speed
liv4pie – I’m usually a nice lad but I’m about to bring you down a notch.
I have many gifts. One of them is to very quickly know who I’m dealing with. I don’t take your kind serious. You’re one of those people who try and dictate everything and because you have no openness talking to you is a waste of my time. I answered the angry posters because anger is a pure emotion but the games you play are not. You’ve tied yourself into knots so I’ll leave that work up to you. Why would I help you with that process?
BTW you’ll answer saying something like, “No BigFish, if you had logical arguments and could construct a perfectly explainable explanation that offered proof then I would give you credit but since you can’t, good day to you.”
There. I saved you the effort of your response. Mate.
I think you need to ditch your course in discrete math and start using your common sense. You think Dana White has a diploma on his wall in the area of discrete mathematics. LOL. But he’s Pwning you.
Heard 40 year old virgin was here but looks like 40 year old ufc nerd with no life and unlimited copies of catcher in the rye
Wow look at all those wonderful assumptions you made about someone you’ve never met, ‘mate’. Let’s get this straight you don’t know me, and you don’t know what I think of Dana White. I’m trying to force a coherent sentence out of your ass instead of the spouting claims wrapped in insults you’ve been delivering.
I even did you the courtesy of reading what you had to say and actually thinking about it, I just need a little more than an sporadic tirade. I don’t care if you have ‘gifts’ and I am not acting like I know your kind. Perhaps you should get my opinion before assuming I eat everything fed from the media. For a man you considers himself a wise, sensible ‘lad’, you argue like a 6 year old. Grow up.
i don’t believe in conspiracy theories but i like your post good points but am not buying it big fish nice post 2up lol hes pwning you
Pie you’re just a p**** who can dish it out but can’t take it. Your first post on here was calling me out using loaded terms to insult me where you had every intention of being brash and offensive. At least I’ll own up to what I’ve said on these boards you’re such a p**** that, in a passive aggressive manner, you’ll start fights and then act chivalrous and blameless. Trust me… I know your kind. The only credit I’ll give you is your humbled stance toward gifts you don’t understand.
MMA Truth – ask your sister if I’m a virgin. I do push ups on her all day son.
Loaded terms eh? Let me get this straight, I challenge, brashly I’ll admit, you to justify your claims (without using any personal insults) and now you’re whining about my passive aggressiveness? Look in the mirror to see who can dish it out but can’t take it bud. I suppose this is how you act when you make stupid claims that you can’t back up; what a wimp. I am not acting blameless fish, I am straight up calling you out to back your arguments. If you find that offensive perhaps you should go find some thicker skin.
No personal insults? Here, let me introduce you to yourself.
Our first exchange there were no real insults either way. Then you called me out in your second post.
“Time to move into the ocean, I suggest to take a debate or discrete math class to learn how to properly form an argument. Cheers.”
That’s an insult. If I need to explain that to you then it just proves that you’re not honest with yourself. So the truth is, you insulted me first. Go find where I insulted you first. That’s right, you can’t because it didn’t happen that way. And your entire tone in your first post to me is condescending and outright disrespectful. But I guess in your book that is not insulting. Okay, I’m reading you loud and clear.
BTW I’m the last thing from passive aggressiveness. I’m very direct. You insult people and then act like you didn’t that is a characteristic of passive aggressiveness. Go buy a book. And just for the record I connect many dots in my previous posts. I show a pattern, and it does include logical thinking using facts of how things went down. You think my explanation of the UFC bringing Bad refs and judges overseas doesn’t make sense and isn’t based on logic. You think me pointing out Dana White says one thing “pettis won’t fight” and then pettis does fight and he never gives a solid explanation and that right there isn’t a red flag and an example of non transparency. You think the last two fox cards being picked apart from the top down and the fact that will make their future PPV’s stronger isn’t logical. UFC’s already been paid to put on those FOX shows… so to make those cards weak and stack their PPV’s is logical to make more money. You think UFC putting all their low PPV number stars (like Henderson and Mighty Mouse) as their main FOX headliners isn’t a pattern of them giving FOX the scraps and saving their big draws solely for PPV. So it stands to reason many of these last minute “injuries” in the last two events could be the UFC making the FOX cards weaker and their PPV’s stronger. Hey, they’ve done it on FOX with their weak headliners over the last 6 cards (And notice Henderson’s last fight with Pettis wasn’t a free FOX card but a PPV because they knew that rematch would sell decent). It’s impossible to prove outright the UFC is doing any of these things besides the refs and judges but as long as the patterns exist and you’re willing to use common sense logic then there is reason to question what UFC is doing behind the scenes. Maybe your insecure I’m outright trying to convince you of something. I’m not. I’m showing these patters and bringing into focus much of what the UFC tries to blur. And how do they blur it? With lies, non transparency and by controlling the media.
Others on here have even given me credit for interesting posts and many people on different sites can follow my logic perfectly and encourage me to post. Look four posts up and what kryptonite says. I try and make people think for themselves that’s all. You’re clearly butt hurt over my posts though. And it’s sad to me you can’t be honest with yourself. Do I prove anything with my posts? Not outright no. But that’s impossible since I haven’t infiltrated the UFC but guess what, in a court of law you don’t always need to have a air shut case to win. You don’t even need a body anymore. Just need to show a pattern and make the connections. People like you who refuse to use common sense and who needs everything lined up perfectly are a disease. What if someone close to you was hurt and you knew the guy did it and the patterns pointed to him but the court was lacking certain evidence. Something tells me you wouldn’t be happy for him to go free because everything wasn’t perfect. You’d want the prosecutor to go forward and you’d hope the jury used their God given common sense.
BTW you’ve accused me of not using logic, not having evidence and not knowing how to properly form an argument. Nice accusations. Any proof of that? Like I said in my last post I introduce all of those things (logic, evidence and forming an argument) based on the evidence available and the fact MMA media doesn’t do their jobs and ask the tough questions. Now put up or shut up. Prove I don’t use those things. And the fact you’ve never demonstrated that level of proof but just threw out your own conjecture and accusations toward me shows how novice you really are. Debate? You haven’t even begun yet son. And you can do your best but I don’t take you seriously I just backed myself due to those who read these boards. You disqualified yourself a long time ago making many accusations including your conjecture toward me all without any proof whatsoever. Pot met kettle.
Be honest with yourself the fact you’ve been guilty this entire time of the exact same thing you have accused me of over and over shows you’re no where near my level. I always saw it just let you dig yourself deeper and deeper and I just pulled the rug. Lesson’s over dork.
liv4pie = Epic fail
My first post I asked you a series of questions and the only real response i got was “I don’t care if none of you believe the UFC is at times rigged.” So there’s my proof. Next, what accusations have I made kid? When I make claims I back them up. I use citations, articles, media quotes….you did NONE of these. Until you post one citation or reference you have not sufficiently backed your claim to any standard of debate. Common man I can’t believe I have to spell this out for you. Keep talking about what superior level you’re on and pulling rugs because that tells me you really, really have no idea what you’re talking about. Thanks for the free lesson on how to be a 40 year old moron, you are a great teacher.
Sorry fish I just read the post before the last one now. You insulted first bub by implying that if I didn’t think fights were rigged I was ‘clueless’, very disrespectful indeed. I wasn’t passive aggressive in subsequent posts I was outright disrespectful and insulting…I make no denials on that front.
As for the rest of that long winded post, I see what you’re getting at. My issue is that patterns can be put together in many different ways to get to many different conclusions, this is what makes conspiracy theories. If you ARE just trying to get people thinking differently perhaps you should phrase it as a open ended question instead of stating it like it was a sure fire fact? I like different perspectives, if that’s all you meant to offer then I have no issue. Seems I may have gotten on your nerves and I apologize.
It’s easy. Everything you’ve accused me of doing toward the UFC you’ve done to me.
You say I only have speculations and conjectures toward the UFC and no solid evidence, logic or ability to form an argument to make my point stick.
I say you only have speculations and conjectures toward me and you’ve provided no solid evidence, logic or even an ability to make a solid argument that I haven’t used logic, evidence or made a solid argument. And this is regarding all of my posts on this thread not just the ones directly addressed to you moron. You’ve just said over and over again it’s your opinion that I haven’t used these things. You’ve never deconstructed my posts and proved that outright. So I guess I’m supposed to take your opinion of me outright without any evidence but I need to convince you of everything perfectly regarding my position toward the UFC. So basically what you expect from me you don’t require for yourself. Pot meet kettle, again. You’ve been pwned. Seriously. Go away you’ve been vanquished. And look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary so this doesn’t happen again.
Your entire stance with me right from the beginning was a logical fallacy. You expected something from me you weren’t prepared to do yourself. Here I’ll help you. From the moment I saw you gave me zero credit regarding any of my posts I know you would beat yourself. Someone that forward is going to eventually fall forward and I just need to get out of the way. You lost because you don’t give any credit where it’s due. Do I deserve a lot of credit. No. Do I deserve some. Yes. Because I’m damn good at taking horribly flimsy evidence and by using solid logic and by finding patterns and by connecting the dots I am able to come up with some theories that are probably more accurate than they are false. Am I 100% right. I doubt it. Am I maybe 75% right, probably. That’s why you lost. Like I said in a post earlier… give credit where it’s due or it will be required of you. That is the craft the UFC employs and what goes out must come back in.
I bet you were one of those kids who just kept saying: “I WIN’ hoping someone would agree with you. You make a claim you back it up. In what world do you live in where the person asking for logic or evidence has to prove you haven’t provided it? You’re such an amateur I’m not even mad, I’m impressed. There is you’re credit. Do a dissertation, stand up there and spout “well…..prove I have no proof”….sure that will go over well.
Answer my question: “Why hasn’t one disgruntled UFC fighter come forward saying their fight, or any other fight, was fixed?”(from my first post btw). I’ve based all my posts off your previous posts (all of them). Vanquished? Please, I’d give you 10% and I’m afraid that isn’t a passing grade little man. You want to give another perspective, fine, but don’t expect everyone to take it like a god-given truth.
So let’s do a recap: “Fish do you have any specific evidence to support your claim?” , “….no pie……but you’re guilty of not supporting your claim either!”, “What is my claim Fish?”, “That I don’t have specific evidence!”
Get the point? Any idea of how ridiculous you sound yet?
Little man? Please… I’m taller then your family tree.
So let’s do a recap: “Fish do you have any specific evidence to support your claim?” , “….yes dork……but you’ve outright ignored the 12 posts I wrote because if you tried to disprove even one you’d expose yourself as a rudimentary thinker who can’t disprove dick. If fact, I’ve done my job well but you’re guilty of making claims and not backing them up with evidence!”, “What is my claim Fish?”, “That I don’t have specific evidence… but I do… you just ignore the evidence I provided because you play more games than a women! LOL. Wait… it’s all starting to make sense now!”
My name is liv4shaft and I disprove other people’s arguments by ignoring any facts they’ve given me repeatedly and by asking them to continually do something I refuse to do myself. But I’m justified because I didn’t like their first post and until I am sufficiently pleased with them fixing any problems I found in their first post I will not more forward even though they’ve given subsequent posts that have made sense and supplied more evidence, logic and arguments which I asked for in the first place.
You want credit liv4arguing. You don’t agree with me and I certainly don’t agree with you. It’s your opinion, not fact, but your opinion I haven’t done such and such. I know I have and since Kryptonite, right near the end of our back and forth, confirms that I have made “good points” that can only mean my justification of my methods is correct and all your accusations are just your wack distorted opinion that hold zero truth. Maybe in your head but not in reality LOL.
And I actually want to thank you for that. If you look at the thread Kryptonite was dead set against me in the beginning. But thanks to our back and forth I got him thinking which actually is my goal. I know you wanted to disprove me but in your effort you actually convinced another poster to reconsider his stance. Thanks for showing all of us on this board how good you are at disproving someone. Maybe if you offered evidence Kryptonite would have told you “good points.” but since you don’t I’m afraid you were largely ignored on this thread.
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