Comments on: UFC Tonight From 04/10/12 Guys Talk Overeem Problems, Kenny Florian Goes Off On Cheaters

By: FedorFailsAgain

FedorFailsAgain — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:48:42 +0000

Anyone who watched OverRoids early fights back in Pride and compared his body mass to what it is now and COULDN’T connect the dots that he’s a hard core Juicer is so f***** stupid I don’t know what to say…

By: SinkTheHooks

SinkTheHooks — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:43:28 +0000

Kenny is the man and Alistar is a f****** cheater, no other way to put it. 14-1 level increase WTF, If Kenny did half a cycle he would have won a belt, he will always be a champion to me though and New England. Looks like Brock really got f***** over.. Overeem was confident because the harder you get hit the more you wanna hit back in a fury. Jose Aldo needs to be tested, even I hate to say Wandi , the Brazilans are getting away with a lot of s*** imo.

By: AOPrinciple

AOPrinciple — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:05:51 +0000

Why does it matter whether or not a supplement is naturally occurring? Why are we biased against substances that are synthetically produced? I believe DMAA is man-made (correct me if I’m wrong) and it’s legal. And PEs add more of what our body naturally makes. The stuff is natural, just not in it’s normal environment or distributed in normal amounts. That highlights it, I think. Again, it’s the quantitative measurement. There is no qualitative difference.

By: KungFuLowKick

KungFuLowKick — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:03:16 +0000

@AOprinciple
The difference is all minerals and vitamins you can get them from eating food.I don’t think there’s anything natural on earth that you can eat and it gives you the ability to recover from training twice as fast,it just doesn’t exist.And don’t respond with food can be a performance enhancer.

By: AOPrinciple

AOPrinciple — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:03:40 +0000

@lorenzo: Right, they both give advantages. The difference isn’t qualitative, it’s quantitative. Where do we decide to draw the line between “enough” and “too much”? There isn’t a qualitative reason; it seems arbitrary. You can call vitamins and such nourishment if you want. Changing the label doesn’t alter the physical effects. Vitamins will enhance the performance of an otherwise vitamin deficient fighter. That’s true, regardless of what you’d like to call those performance enhancing substances. What does “deficient” mean, anyway? No one is caffeine deficient, lol, but we take it anyway for its… performance enhancing effects. Again, quantitative, not qualitative.

@halo666. Would you, um, like me to clarify? Or are you just making fun of me? Mockery isn’t an argument. I hope no one is impressed by “well, you’re stupid!” responses…

By: lorenzo

lorenzo — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:25 +0000

@AOPrinciple: Bro you don’t get that. They are enhancers and enhancers…steroids give you too big of an advantage . Caffeine doesn’t…
And c’mon! Vitamins and minerals aren’t enhancers. They are nourishments…

By: halo666

halo666 — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:10:19 +0000

RE: AOPrinciple

I don’t get your argument either.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:18:17 +0000

But man does it work.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:17:33 +0000

I used to inject that s*** straight into my ass, trust me when I say it’s some freaky superhuman s***, 35 pushups turns into 200 pushups, and you’re not tired afterwards, in fact, you go running to try and kill the rush. Besides, Kenny’s point was it is illegal and dishonorable, which is true for a reason… it’s cheating.

By: AOPrinciple

AOPrinciple — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:02:33 +0000

lol. At least I got a reaction…

@keyboardcowboy: PEs are not the same as fish-hooking and groin strikes. PEs are just that: performance enhancers. What performance they enhance is delimited by the rules of engagement. MMA is striking, grappling, etc… If this is the activity fighters engage in, then that’s the performance they enhance. They don’t by themselves lend toward any particular activity.

@LFCandUFC: Do you think any fighter wants to be “good enough”? I know what you mean, but fighters want to be the best they can be. PEs DO make you better. Also, when you’re not “good enough” to accomplish a certain feat, PEs can make up the difference. Using qualifiers like “worthy” and the like is just a reference to the rules as they stand. I’m not advocating cheating, I’m advocating reevaluating what counts as cheating from a legal standpoint.

@Common Sense: (I think you made that username up just to respond to me) I wish you’d bothered to read what I wrote. I know it’s cheating. Again, I’m saying the logic that makes PEs cheating isn’t very tight and is, in fact, arbitrary. I’m not for cheating. I thought that would have been relatively clear. lol… I never suggested marijuana was performance enhancing.