Comments on: UFC Tonight From 04/10/12 Guys Talk Overeem Problems, Kenny Florian Goes Off On Cheaters http://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/ MMA Videos and News Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:44:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: FedorFailsAgainhttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199377 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:48:42 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199377 Anyone who watched OverRoids early fights back in Pride and compared his body mass to what it is now and COULDN’T connect the dots that he’s a hard core Juicer is so f***** stupid I don’t know what to say…

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By: SinkTheHookshttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199300 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:43:28 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199300 Kenny is the man and Alistar is a f****** cheater, no other way to put it. 14-1 level increase WTF, If Kenny did half a cycle he would have won a belt, he will always be a champion to me though and New England. Looks like Brock really got f***** over.. Overeem was confident because the harder you get hit the more you wanna hit back in a fury. Jose Aldo needs to be tested, even I hate to say Wandi , the Brazilans are getting away with a lot of s*** imo.

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By: AOPrinciplehttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199178 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:05:51 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199178 Why does it matter whether or not a supplement is naturally occurring? Why are we biased against substances that are synthetically produced? I believe DMAA is man-made (correct me if I’m wrong) and it’s legal. And PEs add more of what our body naturally makes. The stuff is natural, just not in it’s normal environment or distributed in normal amounts. That highlights it, I think. Again, it’s the quantitative measurement. There is no qualitative difference.

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By: KungFuLowKickhttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199153 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:03:16 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199153 @AOprinciple
The difference is all minerals and vitamins you can get them from eating food.I don’t think there’s anything natural on earth that you can eat and it gives you the ability to recover from training twice as fast,it just doesn’t exist.And don’t respond with food can be a performance enhancer.

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By: AOPrinciplehttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199117 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:03:40 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199117 @lorenzo: Right, they both give advantages. The difference isn’t qualitative, it’s quantitative. Where do we decide to draw the line between “enough” and “too much”? There isn’t a qualitative reason; it seems arbitrary. You can call vitamins and such nourishment if you want. Changing the label doesn’t alter the physical effects. Vitamins will enhance the performance of an otherwise vitamin deficient fighter. That’s true, regardless of what you’d like to call those performance enhancing substances. What does “deficient” mean, anyway? No one is caffeine deficient, lol, but we take it anyway for its… performance enhancing effects. Again, quantitative, not qualitative.

@halo666. Would you, um, like me to clarify? Or are you just making fun of me? Mockery isn’t an argument. I hope no one is impressed by “well, you’re stupid!” responses…

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By: lorenzohttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199093 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:40:25 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199093 @AOPrinciple: Bro you don’t get that. They are enhancers and enhancers…steroids give you too big of an advantage . Caffeine doesn’t…
And c’mon! Vitamins and minerals aren’t enhancers. They are nourishments…

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By: halo666http://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199088 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:10:19 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199088 RE: AOPrinciple

I don’t get your argument either.

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By: The Truthhttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199079 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:18:17 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199079 But man does it work.

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By: The Truthhttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199077 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:17:33 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199077 I used to inject that s*** straight into my ass, trust me when I say it’s some freaky superhuman s***, 35 pushups turns into 200 pushups, and you’re not tired afterwards, in fact, you go running to try and kill the rush. Besides, Kenny’s point was it is illegal and dishonorable, which is true for a reason… it’s cheating.

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By: AOPrinciplehttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199065 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:02:33 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199065 lol. At least I got a reaction…

@keyboardcowboy: PEs are not the same as fish-hooking and groin strikes. PEs are just that: performance enhancers. What performance they enhance is delimited by the rules of engagement. MMA is striking, grappling, etc… If this is the activity fighters engage in, then that’s the performance they enhance. They don’t by themselves lend toward any particular activity.

@LFCandUFC: Do you think any fighter wants to be “good enough”? I know what you mean, but fighters want to be the best they can be. PEs DO make you better. Also, when you’re not “good enough” to accomplish a certain feat, PEs can make up the difference. Using qualifiers like “worthy” and the like is just a reference to the rules as they stand. I’m not advocating cheating, I’m advocating reevaluating what counts as cheating from a legal standpoint.

@Common Sense: (I think you made that username up just to respond to me) I wish you’d bothered to read what I wrote. I know it’s cheating. Again, I’m saying the logic that makes PEs cheating isn’t very tight and is, in fact, arbitrary. I’m not for cheating. I thought that would have been relatively clear. lol… I never suggested marijuana was performance enhancing.

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By: Nickolas D. Wolfwoodhttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199064 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:49:15 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199064 Kenflo good fighter, better broadcaster

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By: Common Sense!http://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199055 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:53:14 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199055 AOPriciple probably idolizes Mark Maquire, Sammy Sosa, and Barry Bonds. It’s cheating idiot! Whether it’s Baseball, UFC, or Swimming! Period! Kenny’s 100% right. The only way to stop it (in any sport) is random drug testing. The difference between vitamins, minerals, and caffeine, is that those are legal! Next you’re going to say that sleep is performance enhancing because it helps you rest before a fight. You’re an idiot! BTW, weed is not a performance enhancer. Nick diaz should not be suspended for it. Keep random drug testing in all major sports! And guys like Mark Maguire’s home run record should not count! He broke the record while cheating, from a guy who didn’t cheat like 60 years before him. Ridiculous…

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By: sammyhttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199024 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:25:05 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199024 I’m just surprised the other 5 heavyweights passed the test

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By: LFCandUFChttp://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199007 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:03:37 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199007 AOPrincipal sounds like he’s going through a bit of roid-rage there haha… but on a serious note, if you are good enough, you don’t need to take the illegal stuff. Stick to the vitamins and whatever like your worthy opponent.

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By: poopoohead86http://www.mmatko.com/ufc-tonight-from-041012-guys-talk-overeem-problems-kenny-florian-goes-off-on-cheaters/comment-page-1/#comment-199005 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:46:10 +0000 http://www.mmatko.com/?p=24558#comment-199005 I think if jds still wants to fight overeem then they should play fisticuffs. Jds will still knock him out. Unfortunetly for overeem, hes lost alot of respect he cant get back

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