HomeFight Shows UFC 167 Fallout – What Happens If Georges St-Pierre Retires? Bruno November 22, 2013 Fight Shows 25 Comments Fight Network looks at the fallout from UFC 167 and what will happen to the welterweight division if champion Georges St-Pierre walks away from the sport. Tweet Pin It Tags:Fight Network, GSP Dana White Helping Produce New Boxing TV Series ‘The Fighters’ – Video Preview Bellator 109 Weigh-in Video And Results For Shlemenko vs Marshall Event 25 Comments Noel November 22, 2013 Butthole Dana White, GSP doesn’t owe you, the UFC, the fans, or Hendricks anything. Up until his announcement (which we’re still waiting for details on), Dana couldn’t say enough good things about GSP. GSP has been the consummate professional and has brought in a ton of money and popularity to UFC and mma. If his time is over or if he needs a break after tens years in the UFC, it is wrong for anyone to attack him for that decision. I’m not a fan of the lay and pray style he adopted in recent years but as a human being and a martial artist, he deserves all the respect. Log in to Reply poopiestick November 22, 2013 Feels like UFC fans, and the UFC, aren’t giving GSP much respect. He won the game. A game of points. Hendricks only decisively won rounds 2/4. Don’t leave it with judges Hendricks. You f’ed up. Dana ranting about what GSP “owes the company, the belt, Hendricks” etc. disregards the fact that GSP might have brain damage and has a terminally ill father. Just goes to show. The only people that really matter are your family, your trainer, your close friends. Seriously. Log in to Reply Joe Dog November 22, 2013 What happens if….? End of the world? Chael Sonnen gets the interim belt? JFK rises from the dead? There will be peace on earth? The wheel will be re-invented? Goats will fly? Jesus returns to claim Palestine? Tell us, please! Log in to Reply jammyman November 22, 2013 Dana white is one big goofball. More like you owe GSP 20 million for popularizing and bringing MMA to Canada. I bet GSP doesnt even make 2 million a fight. Thats a tragedy considering how some boxers make 5-10 times the amount. The UFC does not need this power tripping dictator to tell people what they can and cannot do with their lives especially if its for their own good. Log in to Reply OscarMayhem November 22, 2013 At once, I find the lemming chatter regarding GSP hilarious and disturbing. A little delusion is natural, but the amount of fiction and revision regarding this little sliver of reality is comically detrimental. I know I’m not speaking to the herd of GSP cheerleaders here. We’ll never convince them, and they are incapable of unconvincing themselves. They are knee deep in the muck of their own brand of starstruck fabrications. I confess that the thought that these people going about their lives peppering events with blatant subjectivity and blind to the most reasonable things a bit chilling. The tether to reality is truly weak when rumors specifically and explicitly debunked by GSP and his family are used to color the hallowed story dripping in fan fiction. And this is just a sport, a fight put on by one promotion, for crying out loud. Can you imagine the mental gymnastics these individuals will do when it comes to something important? Log in to Reply tuffmonikergoeshere November 22, 2013 If GSP owes it to the fans, the belt, the company and Jonny Hendricks? Then should Dana White be saying the same thing about Bones Jones after the Gustaffson fight?? Log in to Reply mmafan November 22, 2013 Lets get one thing clear! Does UFC need GSP or vice versa? Exactly! GSP wudve never been on the map without UFC…The organization promote him and we the fans put the money in his pockets,thats how he got here!He won a questionable fight decision and he can do whatever he wants now like retire if he wants ,aint nobody can do anything about it…But it juz aint cool to do that! This will forever linger in his mind…but knowing how much class GSP has .I sense that there will b a rematch! Log in to Reply Yung November 22, 2013 Hendricks clearly won the fight that’s why GSP owes it back because it was a damn to robbery. It was a close fight in points, but the rounds Johnny won were clear cut. GSP won one round decisevly and it was the last round because he was actually being the aggressor cause even he knew he was losing. I even thought when he had GSP on noodle legs falling everywhere could have even scored a 10-8 round. Close in points, anything but close when you watch it. Log in to Reply brobo1960 November 22, 2013 So all of a sudden the rules of MMA have changed. the 10-9 system has been there forever but now according to everyone it is the amount of damage that counts. If you take a scenario of a guy winning 4 rounds convincingly but gets hammered in the 5th and sustains more damage than the other guy, you are the loser. Pierre one 3 of the 5 rounds by the rules in place. Not his fault! Log in to Reply Twana November 22, 2013 3 axis of evil.. dana white, her dean, and joe rogan…lol Log in to Reply Patrick November 22, 2013 Noel – You are so stupid, maybe he dosent owe shit to the UFC. But he owe’s it 100% to Hendricks! That belt got stolen from Hendricks and everybody knows it. Log in to Reply bigFishLittlepond November 22, 2013 Winning on damage still counts in MMA but they changed the name in 2012. It is now called “effective striking” rather than “damage due to striking.” You want to know why? Because the powers that be thought the word “damage” being used over and over again would eventually make the promoters liable and the fighters open to compensation in the future (just type in “mma judging effective damage” and you’ll see an article explaining it at mixedmartialarts) It’s all semantics. According to the ABC unified rules for judging in MMA judges are supposed to score any damage they see under the banner of “effective striking” which in MMA, is the first banner they are to look for. So, not only does damage count in MMA judging, it is the number one thing as it pertains to “effective striking” separate from a KO. Hendricks won rounds 1,3 and 5 convincingly. GSP won the first minute of the first round then lost the next 4 minutes convincingly. People saying GSP won this fight are blind GSP apologists who would say GSP won even if he got knocked out. Just like Anderson Silva fans say he was beating Weidman before A KO that “shouldn’t count.” LOL Log in to Reply chamberfool November 22, 2013 I dont understand why there are so many emotions in here and in the public in general about this. 170 is stacked. Every fighter will eventually lose including St. Pierre. I think its time for him to retire soon but if he retires immediately I’m sure there would be a good reason. I like Hendricks as the champ, I also like the rest of the division. Why is everyons so upset!? lol Log in to Reply Sammy November 22, 2013 Dana White says he is trying to make MMA more mainstream and accepted by the main stream. Then he should just shut his mouth and get a real professional CEO to run the show. Log in to Reply bigFishLittlepond November 22, 2013 **Hendricks won rounds 1,2 and 4 convincingly. Log in to Reply jizlo November 22, 2013 Round 1 convincingly? BAHAHAAHA Log in to Reply zagor November 22, 2013 Last time I’ve checked Johny won only rounds 2 and 4, regardless of what his fans would like to belive is truth. Thanks to bigfish for his view on “effective striking”. Log in to Reply HAC. November 22, 2013 I can’t believe the idiocy that I have read for the last week regarding this. Hendricks caused more damage to GSP than GSP did to Hendricks that is without question. HOWEVER the MMA rules in the UFC dictate a 10 point must system. You don’t just tally up the damage at the end of the fight and declare a winner, you do it at the end of every round. I along with a lot of fans thought Hendricks was robbed, but on a re watching of the fight and scoring the fight round by round it was clearly a close contest that was determined by the first round. The problem is not with the judges, its with the scoring system the judges are forced to use. The fight as I saw it: Hendricks: rounds 2 and 4 more than convincingly GSP: rounds 3 and 5 scraping through GSP: round 1 could have gone either way (as seen by the judges scorecards) but in a title fight it seems the tradition is to give it to the champ so there’s you’re 3 rounds to 2. I personally thought he did enough to win the round anyway. If there was more flexibility in scoring Hendricks rounds would score higher than GSPs. Round 1 could have been called a draw and this would have been a different story. But these are the rules so deal with it until they get changed. Log in to Reply gsp November 23, 2013 woodly, lombard, maia, shields, ellenberger,kos. kampman even rory are all top guys not mentioned in this video give credit where its due Log in to Reply bigFishLittlepond November 23, 2013 Zagor – no problem. Regarding the first round read my next paragraph. Jiz – just because you laugh doesn’t make it not true. If you give GSP the first round you are rewarding him for one takedown. GSP did nothing on the feet and Johny scored a takedown of his own. Johny also landed the effective strikes in the first so he takes round one all day. Judges got it wrong… you know, the same judging panel where one judge scored it for Rory. LOL. Lawler by split decision. GMAFB. Log in to Reply Timzda November 23, 2013 GSP holds his legacy too highly to retire with so many people doubting his win even though he got the W. I think he’ll accept the rematch, Johnny will just have to wait for it. Log in to Reply OscarMayhem November 23, 2013 Thanks to bigFishLittlepond for his sanity. You just don’t get it. Maybe in the next life, maybe in hell, but clearly not here. Log in to Reply FailSonnen November 23, 2013 Maybe in the back of his head, GSP anticipated losing, anticipated Rory actually winning, and then if both of those had played out, would have announced a definite retirement. but they didn’t play out that way so… Log in to Reply dankarelli November 24, 2013 Failsonnen – I kind of had that thought before the card started and when Rory lost I thought EXACTLY what you said…. FYI – dana is a jackass for saying what he did in the PFPC. Log in to Reply KungFuLowKick November 24, 2013 Like most people said, **** off Dana GSP doesn’t owe you shit. You owe fighters everything. When I hear that kind of talk fro mthat fat steroid abusing prick, I’m happy to hear there’s some brazilians who want to shoot him. 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