Take it on, point by point and show me where I’m wrong…I’ll wait, Retard, I’ll wait.

You make Andrei Chikatilo look like Justin Bieber. Psycho.

1) Being a Personal Trainer, I know chicks that are JUST AS rocked out as Cyborg. They don’t juice. Some do Citrus Aurantium and Creatine but ANY educated individual understands how that works and that it isn’t juicing (look it up kids)

One of the trainers I have worked with takes House wives and makes them body builders:

http://www.inner-athlete.com/contestprep.html

It can be done. I personally have gotten average women muscular as hell…! If you know how to do it, you can. Drug free.

2) I can speak from experience that a LOT of athletes aren’t as on point with their Nutrition and supplements as you might think. When I used more sups and would try to talk to people about what they might want to do-from TCM to over the counter stuff and often times they would trust my word. Even when I was trying to get them to know what they were putting in their body. One said-”That’s why I hire you.” My point about Cyborg is that it is COMPLETELY PLAUSIBLE that she may have not known what she was taking AND (the funniest part of your comment is…)-She got busted for taking an illegal weight cutter-that ISN’T JUICING. Just thought I’d add that in being that you are calling me out and don’t have any of your facts straight. I said (and say) she may have been passing the buck.

When I first heard about “the Clear” I was FIRST to say that there was no topical application of HGH or a Steroid. I was wrong. NOW if you understand that these boards have to define things in specific parameters-TECHNICALLY, and in a court of law, one could viably claim that they weren’t using illegal PEDs. That’s how it works and WHY they went after Bonds for perjury as opposed to usage-he had plausible deniability. He EASILY could have said he was following his Trainers advice and that he didn’t know what it was. THAT was really what was going on (look it up-then look up why they went after Victor Conte…).

As for anything thing else…There are some people here who’s comments I enjoy and clearly know what they are talking about. Some that are really funny. Some who are ignorant as hell. I really don’t care how many people feel about me here because SO many things people say are CLEARLY not coming from people who’ve done it. Some clearly have, but many people here AREN’T fighters-at best they are weekend warriors and at least they out of shape sports fans who talk all kinds of s*** about things they could never do, so sometimes I feel I should say something because its stupid to have opinions based on ignorance. I have no problem with people disagreeing with me or agreeing with me but if you are going to call me out-like above-have your f****** facts straight.

I deal with people every day who train hard for a Hobby and some who may go Pro (in a variety of sports). Armchair Generals don’t impress me. Sorry.

Finally, if someone ACTUALLY thinks its weird that I give props to a guy who fights at his natural weight, has an 88% win rate and KO’d at guy who has never been KO’d…well, you’re too dumb for me to talk to.

Hope I get some good responses. Remember-people here swung first. I won’t waste my time with stupid flames but I’d love to have a reasonable conversation though we may not agree…Peace.