HomeFight Shows TRT Debate On UFC Tonight With Ken-Flow, Bisping, Evans And Dominick Cruz Bruno August 1, 2012 Fight Shows 27 Comments TRT Debate On UFC Tonight With Ken-Flow, Mike Bisping, Rashad Evans And Dominick Cruz. Tweet Pin It Josh Koscheck “I hope the gym (AKA) burns to the ground” The Early Days Of The UFC Relived By Royce Gracie, Randy Couture, Mark Coleman, And Tito Ortiz 27 Comments neovvl August 1, 2012 what is rashad on trt or something? Log in to Reply T-Bone15 August 1, 2012 Haha Ariel is funny. Log in to Reply Common Sense August 1, 2012 TRT isn’t a bad thing. It’s not an illegal substance like steroids. Let it stay. Just regulate the amount that people can take to a formula that is relational to their body mass, and age. Log in to Reply ultimate fighter August 1, 2012 sounds like trt is pretty cool and we should all be on it Log in to Reply Jbone488 August 1, 2012 The more I hear Bisping…the more I like him. He is hilarious, honest and outspoken. Suprised more people don’t like him. Log in to Reply featherwieght August 1, 2012 Sugar, aspirin, trt, pure oxygen, thc, painkillers, caffeine, etc…all these and so much more can be considered PED. You should not be allowed to tell people what they can and cannot put in their bodies. If u ban one thing, you may as well ban everything. Please check out Bigger Strong Faster the documentary. Log in to Reply Kravmma August 1, 2012 See when Bisping’s sober he makes sense, tells it like it is. Ken-Flow want’s Ariel Helwani’s job – forever the analyst. Rashad may have done TRT and or he’s yet to recover from the beating john boy put on him. Dominick Cruz was there. Log in to Reply man August 1, 2012 shit. ariel helwani and kenny florian in the same room! Log in to Reply Op_of_faith August 1, 2012 All good points. Legalization with disclosure is the only way to go. Banning will lead to cheating. Random testing isn’t going to happen with an International sport (and orgs will just get paid off to look the other way…) Cruz’s point is one I’ve made often-T, HGH, Anabolics, etc DO NOT give you skills. If athletes had set levels, or had to match levels with their opponents, then it would work. The cat left the bag long ago… Log in to Reply failsonnen August 1, 2012 Should also had Henderson, Chael, and Rampage on the panel Log in to Reply Genghis Khan August 1, 2012 Long live Overoid Log in to Reply Sidekix August 1, 2012 TRT is bull shit and should not be allowed in mma, if your so old you dont have enough testosterone to perform you retire and if your testosterone is low cause you have used steroids before and your body is ****ed because of it tough balls thats your mistake. Log in to Reply newmmfan1 August 1, 2012 Kenflow doesn’t understand T:E ratios…like a lot of others. 4:1 does not mean 4x the testosterone of a regular man. Log in to Reply newmmfan1 August 1, 2012 Interestingly enough, the Olympic doping agency (can’t remember their name) is allowing a woman to compete who naturally has 20x, not 20:1 from what I’ve heard, but 20x the normal level of testosterone for a woman. She still has less than a normal male though. Different situation but interesting nonetheless. Log in to Reply SEAN_VANCE August 1, 2012 Rashad is juicing LOL! ….Seriosly, if u have to take TRT, go get another job end of story. All these ****ers on TRT are just abusing the system. Log in to Reply Doyle Brunson August 1, 2012 I agree with Bisping more than anyone on the panel. I respect the other fighters opinions but Bisping hit the nail on that one. Log in to Reply Barrek August 1, 2012 I agree with Cruz. All or nothing. Either everyone can use it or nobody can. There should be no middle ground. If you can’t fight without it, then you can’t be an MMA fighter. Plain and simple. Log in to Reply *****lipsbjj August 1, 2012 bisping might gain some fans out of this one… Log in to Reply AOPrinciple August 1, 2012 Call me a contrarian (it wouldn’t be the first time), but I agree most with Rashad. This is a professional sport and we want to see the best athletes. Let athletes make decisions about what they want to put in their bodies in the name of professional competition and athleticism. Do we want to see what people can do with what they are born with, nature running it’s course, or do we want to see the best athletes? I, for one, want to see the best athletes. There are all kinds of PES’s, and this is just one, though it is a, if not THE, major one. I think it should be allowed across the board or banned entirely. Log in to Reply Rico Suave August 1, 2012 Bisping speaking for the panel? that’s a surprise! Log in to Reply Iron_Cobra August 2, 2012 It’s kinda like the age old question. Would a guy ever have sex with a women with an over sized clit? The answer is no because the next logical step is having sex with a man with an under sized d*ck. non trt. Sorry Nate??? Log in to Reply T'Challa August 2, 2012 @Jbone488 I agree.. Bisping is well spoken and a genuinely funny guy. I like him, I think the hate on him has died down a bit. Log in to Reply PitfighterZ August 2, 2012 This was a big waste of time. None of them actually touched on the actual problem. Bisping was close, but the fact is, you CAN’T allow it because it does give an advantage and it can cause serious health problems when abused. So, all those saying everybody should take it doesn’t understand that many athletes don’t WANT to take it. They don’t want to mess with their health. If it’s allowed, you are punishing athletes who want to stay clean, which is absolutely nonsensical. It’s much easier to get every fighter tested throughout the year than try to find a middle ground somewhere. Just give them random tests for blood and urine whether to all fighters under contract. That’s cheap money for the UFC and, with many fighters wanting to cheap in, it can be done easily. Log in to Reply Timzda August 3, 2012 Not accusing Rashad of anything but his body language looked guilty as hell. Log in to Reply zmayo August 3, 2012 Just ban it Log in to Reply london_jones August 4, 2012 it’s getting real easy to see who owns mma…real easy! the same people that made america there bitch. Log in to Reply jasonfn22 August 5, 2012 What they never talk about is the blood test that can be performed to check and see if the levels are low due to a history of steroid use. Nomatter what if the guy across from the octogon is using TRT for whatever reason if you lose your going to blame the loss on that so the debate will live on and its a waste of time talking about it. Do the blood work to determine the persons history and work from that instead of permiting somebody because they go see a doctor and thge results come back low,well find out why they are low and work off that before permitting anybody to use anything. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.