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screwballhk Says, in 6-16-2013 at 01:13:24 from 71.76.147.51    

Jesus. When is Roy going to lose weight?

It’s almost like Miocic watched some tapes on Roy Nelson and just wanted to make him walk around so he got tired.

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ataere Says, in 6-16-2013 at 09:27:18 from 24.201.203.82    

Roy could outrun you in a marathon. He’s got good cardio. The problem is his footwork is crap. That’s what happens when you don’t move efficiently, you get tired.

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 6-16-2013 at 10:25:59 from 24.212.64.143    

@ataere
Maybe If screwballhk was a paraplegic Roy would have a chance to outrun him.But Roy won’t outrun anybody who jogs 10 minutes everyday.When you get exhausted in 2 minutes,it’s not because of your footwork,it’s because your gut is filled with cheeseburgers and fried crap.Roy is not some freak of nature who eats right and trains his cardio as well as other MMA fighters and for some reason he gets fat.Roy is fat because he’s lazy and he eats horribly.And he gassed because he doesn’t train his cardio seriously,if he does any cardio training.

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Pooly Says, in 6-16-2013 at 11:37:38 from 70.15.83.238    

wow KungFuLowkick you’re as big a hater as the first guy…sorry to tell you son, Roy COULD outrun you and outdo you in anything physical, idc what you do or what you “train”…i guarantee that. I’m tired of people s****ting on Roy like he’s some huge fatass…the dude has a big stomach, that’s about it, he doesn’t have big flabby arms or 4 chins, he just isn’t cut like most fighters. Roy would kick ALL your asses. Now with that being said, his performance in this fight was near inexcusable.

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dubgli Says, in 6-16-2013 at 11:48:42 from 72.192.59.241    

hahaha.. defending his gut with footwork issues?? lmao. america’s got an obesity problem because their footwork is off.

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Rocc55 Says, in 6-16-2013 at 12:25:17 from 75.69.106.4    

Roy had a lot to lose with this fight, and he lost it all. SHould have never taken this fight, especially in the apparent shape he was in

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psyopus Says, in 6-16-2013 at 12:53:13 from 98.236.240.25    

you guys are retarded so it seems… he took the fight on two week notice but no one want’s to give him any credit for that !? it was a bad fight for sure but kinda hard to get you’re cardio any where at all with that kinda time, since most people take one week to lose the extra weight and dont really train at all..

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 6-16-2013 at 13:06:44 from 24.212.64.143    

Telling facts like Roy Nelson is fat because he eats cheeseburgers is not being a hater.It’s just being realistic.I love Roy and of course a brazilian jiujitsu black belt with powerfull hands and who’s almost 100 pounds heavier then me would kick my ass.I never said I would beat him up,but defending his lack of discipline with excuses is stupid.He has a huge stomach because he eats like people with huge stomachs.Haven’t you seen him in TUF asking for whoppers after he won?This is not a joke,Roy does eat whoppers and junk food,you don’t get a gut like that by eating green vegetables and lean meat.And yeah Roy does have a double chin,we just don’t see it because of the beard.Stop defending the guy,he knows he’s not a champion because he eats like s*** and doesn’t take his cardio seriously.He has a 50 pounds gut he could get rid off and he could easily make 205 with his frame and height.He could be a champion at 205,but he prefers whoppers.

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 6-16-2013 at 13:07:54 from 24.212.64.143    

@dubgli
HAHAHA

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aasdfaf Says, in 6-16-2013 at 15:36:32 from 24.201.203.82    

@KungFuLowKick: have you ever done combat sports or tried learning a new sport or simply practicing a sport where your movements are not efficient ?

You may run 50 km a week (as I do) but you’ll gas early. Case in point, I decided to try grappling with a friend of mine a gassed horribly in my first sessions.

Roy Nelson is fat, yes. He’s not in a comparable shape with some athletes, but he sure as hell is in a better shape than any keyboard warrior on this website.

I run about 50 km a week but I’m pretty sure Roy has as good (or probably better) cardio than me.

Remember the video of Forrest Griffin and other training partners saying Roy is awesome in cardio training ?

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aasdfaf Says, in 6-16-2013 at 15:39:14 from 24.201.203.82    

Miocic actually exploited the fact that Nelson is not efficient in his movements in the striking department so as to make him gas. It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to figure out what Miocic did.

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aasdfaf Says, in 6-16-2013 at 15:40:39 from 24.201.203.82    

@dubgli: correlating Roy’s belly with bad cardio ? Good job showing the argumentative skills of a 5 year old.

How come Roy showed good cardio in many other fights ?

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NotVinnieJones Says, in 6-16-2013 at 15:48:27 from 208.107.51.22    

Dan Hardy stated that he stopped training with Big Country because, as he put it, “I like to train, he likes cake.” The guy likes to eat, and it showed in this fight. It also showed in his fight with Mir. If he took his training more seriously maybe he wouldn’t be carrying extra weight and be more light on his feet. But his UFC contract is up with this fight and Roy feels that he is underpaid with the UFC so it will be interesting to see what he does next.

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zagor Says, in 6-16-2013 at 15:58:28 from 70.78.220.50    

@ aasdfaf, what you call gasping for air after first round?

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analonda Says, in 6-16-2013 at 16:11:23 from 188.67.199.60    

I’m worried if Roy will continue this tactic against bigger fighters with more reach. That is not healthy for the brain to absorb so much strikes to the head. He has taken alot of it in previous fights as well. 205 is the right place for Roy, just need to lose the belly and he could do 205 easily.

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asdfas Says, in 6-16-2013 at 16:53:22 from 24.201.203.82    

Yes Roy gassed, nobody can deny that.

What I’m saying is that there are other reasons than the obvious one (him being fat) for gassing.

One of them is that holes in his standup game make him move his body (legs, arms, etc.) inneficiently.

Miocic exploited that.

P.S.: against Mir doctor’s confirmed that Roy had pneumonia coming into the bout (which hampers cardio.

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asdfas Says, in 6-16-2013 at 16:54:35 from 24.201.203.82    

Not making excuses, Roy’s cardio is not great, but it’s not as bad as people make it (he’s not as bad as Overeem for example).

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asdfas Says, in 6-16-2013 at 16:56:16 from 24.201.203.82    

For this fight, I’d say being fat, fighting on short notice and moving inneficiently made Roy gas quick.

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Escapee Says, in 6-16-2013 at 17:38:34 from 173.192.170.97    

What the hell is a rocket surgeon?

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chrisvegas Says, in 6-16-2013 at 17:51:28 from 173.227.8.4    

i am going to end the arguement… he looked fatter than usual.

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Vance Says, in 6-16-2013 at 20:02:06 from 69.211.7.218    

Everyone! DO NOT engage in a war of words with KungfuLowkick! it is an ABSOLUTE waste of time! time is precious,don’t waste on KEYBOARD warrior!!!!!!

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Noel Says, in 6-16-2013 at 20:40:58 from 71.20.70.242    

Bad footwork tired him? What a joke.
He took the fight on short notice? He’s a damn professional fighter and he gassed in two minutes.

I can’t believe the nonsense people come up with to defend Roy. He is fat and out of shape. Period. This is not the first fight he’s gassed on. If the fight goes his way, then no he doesn’t gas because the fight ends early. But if he is pressed and pushed around, he gasses quickly just like he did in this fight.
Pull your heads out of your asses, Roy’s Boys.

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screwballhk Says, in 6-16-2013 at 20:56:14 from 71.76.147.51    

He’s coming off of 4? first rd KOs. What fight was he in that went over a rd that he looked good in?

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dub Says, in 6-16-2013 at 21:03:06 from 72.192.59.241    

@aasdfaf

where did I correlate Roy’s belly with his cardio? where did I even present an argument? Oh lord.. now you have a reading comprehension of a 5 year old.. no wait, more like a 5 month old.

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On Tape Says, in 6-16-2013 at 21:52:06 from 96.51.20.226    

Thanks for re-posting the fight Bruno.

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INANEBIGNATE Says, in 6-16-2013 at 22:27:12 from 75.145.211.73    

man big country took a big gamble taking this fight and lost. IM sure he was planning on getting another ko then he would be on a 4 fight win streak with all kos and seeing how thin the heavyweight division is it would not be out of the realm of possibility for him to have gotten a number one contender fight if he got the ko. He also let his contract expire (did not sign an extention) Again it was a pretty ballsy move on his part but he (or his manager) definitely would have leverage to negotiate higher pay.
Nelsons cardio looked horrible he literally seemed to gas after like a minute. Even with his excess bodyfat he usually can pace himself and seems to have decent cardio. Gotta give props to Miocic he looked excellent

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LOL Says, in 6-16-2013 at 23:26:39 from 67.84.163.243    

Look, I have all the respect in the world for Big Country and think he’s a great fighter, but Roy was 260lbs in this fight. Even when he’s 245, he’s real f***** fat. He should be 225, tops. That’s why he gassed. Stop bullshitting yourselves. He’s fat and on short notice and got punched in the face a lot, and it showed.His overhand rights were slower than ever, and his uppercuts were hilarious in this fight. He didn’t look good. Fat guy on short notice.

I think Roy would be a great heavyweight at 225.

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PowerTele Says, in 6-16-2013 at 23:29:52 from 76.174.172.237    

Hilarious. . .ROCKET SURGEON.

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atomos Says, in 6-17-2013 at 01:11:01 from 96.55.132.174    

what is amazing about nelson is not his body shape (this is mma, not bodybuilding), it’s his ability to take hits to the head.
has he ever been knocked out?

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Shutupfatfukgodiewasteofspace Says, in 6-17-2013 at 02:52:14 from 108.239.157.237    

All you fat guys defend a fat guy.he is pathetic and so are you.dont be a fat piece of crap.if you want to win, don’t be fat country Nelson and don’t be your fat stupid selfs.end of story… And also you crying fat asses, cardio. Wahhhh! Fat people don’t have cardio, they have pathetic-eo. Do you understand fattys?

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Clemmit Says, in 6-17-2013 at 03:18:09 from 213.205.241.92    

Big country gassed, as he has done in many fights if you have paid attention. You will hear rogan commenting on it in many fights. All of your bullsh*t thories dont mean a thing. Simple truth is he’s not in as good shape as most the other athletes so he struggles to keep up. If you haven’t seen this with him gasping for air in many fights then you need to pay more attention. That being said roy was relying too mutch on the hay maker overhand right, and stipe had CLEARLY trained for this. If you know anything about training you will realise his boxing/striking coach went over and over this. Watch the fight again every time big country throws the overhand stipe’s left hand goes up automatically like a natural reaction thats because he trained very well to block it. However i dont know why you would possibly argue that big country was in great shape, his level of cardio is not as good as it should be.

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ETK Says, in 6-17-2013 at 04:09:53 from 76.90.7.102    

hahaha @ “Escapee”s comment

“What the hell is a ‘rocket surgeon’?”

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Yoplait Says, in 6-17-2013 at 07:23:52 from 70.193.22.104    

@ Aasdfaf. I run 100km a day, grapple, cross fit train, and spend 25 hrs a day in the gym and I gas walking my dog. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 6-17-2013 at 09:31:16 from 24.212.64.143    

@Vance
You’re still bitter from last time when you were too dumb to insult the guys from the right continent??

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lord faron Says, in 6-17-2013 at 11:32:49 from 107.33.38.137    

Roy has natural talent it comes easy to him, when you have a talent that comes easy typically you don’t care for it the way someone who has to work hard everyday does.

Roy change your diet, take things seriously and kiss Dana’s ass and you will go far don’t and you will be fighting in side shows :{

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rasbutten Says, in 6-17-2013 at 12:52:56 from 108.237.61.153    

He’s a fat ego-maniacal grandeurlusional loser. It’s important in mma to be in shape for 1) output and 2)(maybe more importantly) to absorb and recoup quickly from punishment. He has neither because he is not in shape. When you get cracked, it zaps your energy, thus why it is so important for these guys to be in gladiatorial warrior shape. Yes, he has a decent chin, but without the padding of that thick beard (and yes it does diffuse energy upon impact instead of vibrating directly directly through the mandible and skull), I doubt he lasts as long. Anyone who says he is in good shape has the skewed perspective of a fan, while Roy insults his fans, his opponents, and especially himself by not taking his training and diet seriously and relying on his natural talents, chin and beard. His hubris his downfall.

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wcoastassassin Says, in 6-17-2013 at 16:40:29 from 98.247.202.56    

I wonder if Roy went out and had a double whopper meal after the press conference. My guess is, hell yeah!

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tallandsincere Says, in 6-18-2013 at 08:16:54 from 81.145.182.82    

Ha, I like Lowkick he knows his stuff but can come across a little arrogant.

I agree on both points, i think Roy for a similar shaped gent is in great condition but in comparison to any other heavyweight in the UFC he is not on their level.

He does eat what he wants, sure he trains hard but he doesnt make things easy for himself.

He looked poor.

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had_to_say_it Says, in 6-18-2013 at 09:12:40 from 76.187.73.216    

You guys all sound like Rocket Surgeons.

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tallandsincere Says, in 6-18-2013 at 11:40:41 from 81.145.182.82    

shut up you Brain Scientist

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buchacho Says, in 6-19-2013 at 01:31:24 from 99.233.169.57    

Everyone can relax now. The rocket has been successfully operated on.

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Joe Dog Says, in 6-19-2013 at 14:15:44 from 68.186.104.36    

Roy will still knock a few people out, rub his belly etc… But now, this talk about a UFC title shot should be put to rest. Nelson always has a chance to land a hard punch, but Velasquez would pulverize his fat ass. It’s not too far in the future when we see Nelson vs Tim Sylvia, James Thompson and maybe even Bob Sapp .

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