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PikachumansonNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 01:59:52 from 76.98.97.64    

What language were they speaking? I’m thinking Portuguese or Italian. Anyway, Matt Hamil has a head made of rocks!

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JunboNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:08:28 from 74.215.86.233    

Great performance by Rich. The potential fights that he could have down the line at 205 are endless and any combination of him an any top tier 205 would be a big draw for the UFC.

Bet Hamill broke a rib with that last kick that made him tap.

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wowNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:16:11 from 76.18.74.64    

matt really let me down. he basically showed he has no boxing skills. what a lousy fight

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hutterchanNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:23:52 from 69.65.92.254    

fuckin hamill.
i think if he wouldve worked on his boxing a little bit more, it would of ended differently, but who knows.
compared to his other fights, hamill didnt seem 100%.
i thought hamill was a tank, and he got dropped by body kick.
and the stoppage looked a little early to me too, fucking yamazaki nah haha.
where has big john been??

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CoreyNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:24:57 from 12.157.134.103    

Great fight, but I really wish the commentators were speaking english… wtf did the ref stop the fight for in round 2? They looked at franklins eye… but he wasnt bleeding, he didnt even get hit. Good breather for both fighters. I’m surprised hamill didn’t take the victory from the groin kick, he knew damned well he wasn’t going to win this fight. And he wouldn’t have suffered from broken rib(s). Hamill looked like he was trying to survive from beginning to end. Franklin has some amazing and consistant leg kicks.

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KevinNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:30:34 from 24.195.186.13    

very nasty cut. only has three loses(two against a world class fighter so no shame in that no matter how he lost compared to others), still an amazing fighter, and always improving. especiall with those damn leg kicks. jesus. he’s been using those more and more since losing to anderson silva. i still want rich to give it a third try to beat silva ONLY if he faces machida and beats him. rich is not the same fighter as when machida beat him, so that will be his ultimate test. i’d pay alot to see that rematch…then maybe a third fight to seal the deal.

i also believe he’s been watching some silva tape considering he’s doing the same shit silva does with capitalizing on everyone’s mistakes. he who beats you makes you wiser? who knows.

kicks the guy viciously in the gut but still there to hug him in defeat. classy classy. i can’t wait to see what he does in this division this time around.

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SJNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:35:15 from 24.6.15.145    

Fast uploads <3 even tho it’s in weird language

Rich Franklin is my BOY. Complete destruction.

I love his punch kick combinations.

I thought a little early stoppage but that kick was hard so good call.

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bodybuilderNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:37:05 from 219.143.84.214    

Pride is better than this ufc circus

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:pingalocaNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:37:08 from 68.161.16.194    

Bring on the spider!!! I wonder where the spider was, anyway, the spider doesn’t even care about rich anymore. This fight will probably boost rich’s moral, beating a someone like hamill. I’m glad rich got owned twice by the spider.

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bushNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:38:07 from 24.186.182.245    

i’ve never seen matt hamill look so bad…what kind of takedowns was he trying to attempt?

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GringoNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:43:52 from 217.35.82.111    

Ooh nasty body kick. Hammil was doing well though.

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walket6678No Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:53:21 from 67.165.110.75    

Matt Hamills corner and trainers should be ashamed of themselves or whoever the hell thought up the game plan against Rich Franklin. Let’s see, hmmmm Matt is a wrestler and Rich is a striker so I think our game plan should be to try and win by striking. How ridiculous. Although ground and pound is boring, Matt Hammill should of taken double legs every round and never ever let Rich up. I don’t care if it would of been boring or not, he would of at least had a chance to win. Rich’s face will never ever be the same after the destruction at the hands of Anderson Silva. The scar tissue over his eyes opens very easily therefore he faces stoppages in every fight he will be in. Its hard to say what the future holds for these two.

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MikeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 02:58:15 from 24.188.107.168    

Owwwww, I felt that kick to the liver from here. Man, Jim Carrie can fight.

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JustLokoNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:11:26 from 200.120.130.46    

1st

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reddheliumNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:13:10 from 71.59.76.101    

nice liver shot.

thanks for posting.

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thebigfishNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:15:39 from 75.37.18.176    

Bang! Liver Shot - Bas Ruten … I wish hammil won, happy to see franklin not looking like a leukemia patient this time.

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retrospiffNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:16:38 from 72.201.1.10    

not sure if he had a broken rib or somthing, but it seemed like he really just wanted a way out of that fight.

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OzinatorNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:24:00 from 58.104.140.14    

i hate sayin…but that looked thrown

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OrionthekiwiNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:26:11 from 96.248.16.91    

Wasn’t Matt Hamill supposed to be the best fighter on his season of TUF before he got injured? To be honest he hasn’t been impressing me lately.

All these “great wrestlers” think they can come into the octagon and be the next Randy Couture. They think they can control an opponent for 3 or 5 rounds and hopefully get a decision. Well you know what? MOST OF THE TIME THAT MAKES FOR A BORING FIGHT!

I think that these wrestlers need to REALLY work on getting better at BJJ and boxing otherwise their fights will continue to be boring and they won’t have as many fans because of their lack of an ability to finish fights.

This includes:
Matt Hamill, Brock Lesnar, Josh Koscheck, and many more.

It’s not called MMA for nothing.

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Big Rob DHNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:33:52 from 68.229.48.14    

Thanks! Kick ASS! Whatever the dialect…the language of a fucking people up is universal! THANKS MMATKO! You fucking rock!

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KJCNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:43:41 from 70.70.139.89    

Aaaaah the liver shot! So under-utilized it seems. I’ve only really seen Franklin and Bas use it well.

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M0rph3v5No Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:45:09 from 24.21.143.108    

Matt Hamill needs to get more cardio in his training

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SagazNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:55:31 from 68.101.134.41    

The spoken language in the fight is Portuguese. By the way, the current champion Anderson Silva @ 185, that have given Franklin a beaten twaice happens to speak the same weird language…

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big zopNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 03:59:11 from 70.70.19.176    

Rich Franklin is pound for pound one of the best fighters in the world and could hold a title in 185 or 205! That is if Anderson Silva wasn’t around! He can beat just about anyone except him!

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KevinNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 04:06:58 from 24.195.186.13    

lol. thrown? stopped too soon? um…hasn’t this discussion been brought up before? matt hamil landed on his ass after the body kick and could only half ass defend. where was he pulling guard or scrambling? but hey, you’re right…just let him continue to get punched in the skull until brain damage or death occurs to be satisfied with any stoppage in the ufc. morons.

walket6678- everytime hamil went for a takedown, it was stuffed or franklin had way too good of balance…so…yeah. it wasn’t the corner, it was hamil sucking ass at takedowns. good job rich!

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x2468No Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 04:07:51 from 74.161.226.39    

they looked about the same size. u was expecting franklin to look smaller in comparison

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mefninjaNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 04:30:02 from 74.13.110.7    

where does this p ut franklin…. basically in my eyes.. this fight just shows you how amazing silva is……

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smackNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 04:47:42 from 122.108.223.38    

hamil looked unfit and unskilled he wasnt his ussual self. what the fuck happend. didnt throw many punchs or go for take downs, didnt have any drive to him

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graciefanNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 04:57:01 from 220.255.7.162    

I don’t see franklin having a future at 205. he won’t beat the top guys, rashad, wanderlei, rua even lyoto. The logical move for him is if Dana convinces Silva to move to 205 so Franklin can go back to 185. Silva has cleaned out his division, he should move up. He has the tools to beat all the top guys at 205.

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jabbyjapNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 05:31:06 from 76.183.139.94    

20+ fights vs 6+ fights

reminds me of boxing, and franklin did not improve his status after this lopsided affair. franklin did nothing but prove that he can beat a novice fighter

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GRIMTHUGNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 05:33:40 from 78.149.90.111    

damn excuses like stoppage abit early or some ufc circus hahaha. i actualy pick matt for this one but rich is simply much better than him on stand up. no excuse for this rich won fare and square peace out. and tnx for the post

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danadaNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 06:04:33 from 76.65.23.106    

Guys, it’s portugese. What’s so bad?

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FelipeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 06:22:55 from 200.112.31.78    

…the only thing i got to say about this fight is WAR FRANKLIN!

oh and the commentators are speaking portuguese by the way…they were rooting for palhares all the time in the fight with henderson LOL

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U failNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 06:52:16 from 90.196.49.168    

Matt Hamill looked poor because he was outclassed by a better fighter in Franklin. Just because you beat up Michael Bisping dont make you a an elite fighter. As a result of this and TUF, people thought Hamill was the real deal. Even Bisping new he was going to hammered by the top 205′ers sooner or later, coz he got beat up a lesser fighter in Hamill. Hence, Bisping dropped down a class. Franklin has a chance at 205 to be champ again (don’t laugh ’cause no one really expected evans to ko liddell..)

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NateDogNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 07:24:54 from 125.237.170.145    

hamill was too out-classed and gassed way too early, rich was fuckin awesome!

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JasonicusNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 07:27:03 from 167.77.0.11    

This is probably one of the quietest crowds I have ever heard in a UFC show. Hamill was hurt, but I think I agree with some of you and think he just wanted out of the fight.

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DogpittNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 07:27:03 from 86.20.48.108    

Poor Matt…
I really like the guy, but he got out-classed in the stand-up. Notice Rich was stringing together combo after combo, while Matt was simply throwing slow heavy punches - and even these were few and far between.
Matt should have stuck to his strength: his wrestling. He took Rich down easily on the first attempt and gave him problems.
Matt has much to learn by the looks of it and it was plain to see after round 2 he was unhappy with himself.

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DogpittNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 07:29:04 from 86.20.48.108    

P.S. Matt didn’t tap. Check the slow-mo replay.

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gummo-815No Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 08:01:59 from 75.21.97.172    

hamill looked gassed in the 2nd round. rich had a very fast pace

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yoububgNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 08:08:07 from 24.61.183.205    

Wow, was Matt Hamill at the fight tonight? What happend to the tough as nails brute that could take down a rhino. Maybe we have just forgotten how good Franklin is because of his inability to beat Silva.

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darkmetalNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 08:46:12 from 74.61.152.70    

It wasn’t that Hamill was fighting so badly, but rather that Franklin was fighting so WELL.

I predicted that Franklin would be vastly better than Hamill on his feet, but he looked better than that, his standup was amazing.

Hamill would have liked to take it to the ground, but the one time he did get there, Franklin maneuvered quickly and got back on his feet after almost securing an arm bar.

Hamill simply was not at the same level.

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gunnyhighway99No Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 09:13:33 from 97.92.190.223    

It was the liver!! Just like Bas Rutten used to say. Hamill is a good C list fighter, like most white fighters are. Franklin totally outclassed the guy, but I have to give it to Hamill for taking that beating.

I’d like to see the winner of Sugar vs Forrest fight Franklin.

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alfredunhillNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 09:14:22 from 70.156.210.2    

Bas Ruten says “LIVER SHOT!!”

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DannNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 09:51:37 from 72.206.122.120    

Orionthekiwi, dude, Hamill was Tito’s first choice cause tito wanted to make hamill the winner of TUF 4. he had an advantage in nothing but wrestling but matt likes to strike and tito said that matt’s striking was not good at all that he needed a lot of training, mat went into the TUF with no professional fights and the first time he ever got hit was by Kendall Grove during team ortiz (punishment) training.. and so for starting fighting not too long ago matt has improved a lot, obviously rich is an awesome fighter and a legend pretty much, but you have got to give hamill credit for lasting that long in the octagon with franklin.

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XhytypeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 09:56:40 from 125.60.241.70    

not a night for matt…seen him way better than this…anyway did a good stand up game…raining with vicious kicks leg kicks and sides…not the old matt i used to know.

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dudeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 10:28:05 from 72.241.143.189    

recipe for beating matt hamill: HARD SHOTS. going back to his season on TUF, he has NEVER done well when he gets hit hard. he got into mma to late in life and never developed the ability to take a shot.

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siliconwebNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 10:53:36 from 98.221.163.168    

after the first few kicks Mark should have corrected his take down approach. He kept setting himself up for the kick during his approach and Rich kept delivering it. Nice job by Rich.

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doodee nipple hairNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 11:50:47 from 67.193.52.73    

franklin has ony two losses in the ufc .. both to that crazy mo fo named anderson silva .. no shame there .. rich has fought at 205 before and was crazy then and hes crazy now .. hamil lost confidence in the ground game when the one and only time he took franklin down he almost got submitted … to early to fight the caliber of franklin .. maybe he should have fought someone like jardine or bonner … mad respects to franklin though

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jl552008No Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 14:05:41 from 71.102.249.107    

did the guy say that rich franklin looked like jim carey?

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AdamNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 16:11:20 from 63.214.184.6    

Kevin… I totally agree with all of wut u said. Hamill was just laying on the ground not defending himself. Anyone who practices mma knows that if u take a kick like that to the body your done. Hamill probably wouldnt be able to fight if you gave him weeks.saying that it was an early stop is retarded. I saw it on ppv and noone at buffallo wild wings or the commentators or hamill pretended that it was early.hamill was just as incapable of defending himself as chuck liddel.

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AndrewNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 16:49:17 from 63.225.81.252    

Matt Hammel has the head of a fucking rhino

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On TapeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 18:18:44 from 70.65.78.84    

a well placed liver kick will take the legs out from underneath anyone

Matt was simply outclasses by a superior striker & much more experienced fighter

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On TapeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 18:19:23 from 70.65.78.84    

a well placed liver kick will take the legs out from underneath anyone

Matt was simply outclasses by a superior striker & much more experienced fighter

Rich stopped most of Matt’s take down attempts

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RatBasterdNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 18:36:47 from 70.132.12.125    

Hamil has always been hella weak- what is all this praise to Hamil? Rich should of finished him in the 1st… Rich has past his prime…

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ABURTONNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 20:01:48 from 24.196.5.235    

I just noticed the respect these guys have for each other. Also if you notice when MAtt went down in the third instead of “finishing him” Rich was sorda going easy.

I would think it would be hard to really fight a friend and try to hurt them..

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ACOSTANo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 21:05:56 from 88.157.202.86    

“did the guy say that rich franklin looked like jim carey?”

Yes,he did.

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HaVoKNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 21:21:34 from 71.240.211.106    

hutterchan…you obviously have never taken a hard shot to the liver. Well I doubt you ever been hit at all…fuckn noobs!

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HaVoKNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 21:23:07 from 71.240.211.106    

RatBasterd your in the same class with your idiotic brother hutterchan.

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KieranMacNo Gravatar Says, in 9-7-2008 at 21:24:27 from 68.32.166.219    

The end of the fight was a bit disappointing…it didn’t look like the kick landed quite as hard as Hamill made it look. I think he was just exhausted and a solid body shot was either just one leg kick too many or a good excuse to call it a night.

hutterchan - Big John retired awhile back. He’s doing some announcing/commentating with Affliction and teaching MMA at the school he opened last year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_John_McCarthy)

and “JustLoko” - get the f**k out of here with that “1st” crap. This isn’t your little teeny-bopper Jonas brothers forums, no one gives a damn if you post first or last, just post something that actually relates to the discussion

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DudesonNo Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 01:12:04 from 76.10.167.85    

1 Hamill has an iron chin
2 Hamill’s gameplan sucked
3 Hamill’s striking was bad
4 Franklin was beating him up the entire fight
5 the stoppage was ok, nobody complained, it was clear that Matt lost and did not want to get punished anymore

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SteveNo Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 01:56:09 from 71.104.1.172    

KieranMac — see above comments. That was a nicely-landed liver shot. If you hit somebody on the bottom part of their ribs on their right side, it can be pretty devastating because of the jolt to the liver. See the end of De la Hoya vs. Hopkins for a good example of that.

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RickNo Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 02:07:48 from 75.80.174.87    

Hamill looked horrible. He was gassing in the middle of round 2. I thought he was an animal and able to take down anyone before this.

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Brazilian1No Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 03:11:38 from 24.8.84.179    

I felt sorry for Hamil but Rich is a great fighter. I don’t think he is passed his prime. Things just got very competitive in the UFC. Now Franklin will have to face more crazy competition. I’m talking about Lyoto Machida, Wanderlei Silva and maybe Shogun. Hey guys, What happened to Mauricio Shogun Rua? Is he going to fight in the UFC again? Do you guys know if he is rehabilitated? He fought Forrest with his knee destroyed.

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Sean WooldridgeNo Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 07:40:13 from 72.86.122.178    

I have a feeling we’ll be hearing about a preexisting injury or something in the next couple of days. I find it hard to believe this was just a poor game plan. Hamill kept going for these lame single leg (single ankle) takedowns. What’s up with that? He wasn’t even attacking the hips. It doesn’t take a world class wrestler to know that you can’t take somebody down by grabbing a single knee, especially someone with that kind of balance. Yes, Franklin has great takedown defense, but he never really used it. How many times did you see a sprawl or a real clinch? When a wrestler of that caliber is attached to you the way Hamill was a couple of times in R1, you’re going exactly where he wants you to go. For some reason, he didn’t want it to go to the ground. I don’t have a hypothesis, but this fight was very uncharacteristic of Matt Hamill.

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silverandslowNo Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 08:17:17 from 72.226.92.192    

Exactly as expected. Hammill Couldn’t get him down and couldn’t keep him down when he got him down once. Hammill is over rated big time.

Top tier fighters don’t let him do the “hey look im gonna hold the back of your head and throw short upper cuts to your face” thing. Doesn’t really work.

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Nambo22No Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 08:40:40 from 72.219.33.153    

yeah that guy did say Franklin looks like Jim Carrey, as a matter of fact that’s why they call him “ACE” becuz of his resemblence to Jim Carrey

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gringoNo Gravatar Says, in 9-8-2008 at 08:50:26 from 24.27.149.190    

didn’t look like the kick landed as hard as Hamill made it look? please tell me you’re kidding. that shot was rock solid and rocked him. Sure, it didn’t break a rib or anything, but I’m sure it knocked the wind out of him and he probably couldn’t even breathe. I’m not a Hamill fan, but he’s a tough kid and I doubt he would ever just give up unless he really couldn’t continue. Remember when he was on TUF? He wanted to fight in the semi-finals even though he couldn’t move one of his arms. He was just out classed by a more experienced and skilled Franklin.

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samson simpsonNo Gravatar Says, in 9-13-2008 at 13:22:35 from 69.238.196.19    

hamill did amazing i thought! that was no sissy kick that ended the fight… would have knocked any of your asses out.

any way… hamills boxing was great 2. only problem was franklins was better. franklins a more seasoned fighter.. more experiance and confidence. franklin winning was no suprise.

Expect to see hamill moving up… maybe even holding a belt some day.

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johnNo Gravatar Says, in 9-18-2008 at 13:13:18 from 68.178.99.142    

Rich “The Gatekeeper” Franklin.

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hoginNo Gravatar Says, in 9-19-2008 at 00:55:21 from 66.183.179.66    

Did anybody else notice that Franklin got away with an illegal knee in the second round?


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