Comments on: Rener And Ryron Gracie Talk About The Danger Of Chokes After Recent Death

By: Buckethead

Buckethead — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:33:13 +0000

where’s the escapes?

By: DeLaSeoul87

DeLaSeoul87 — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:25:35 +0000

Rear Naked Choke (RNC) Footnotes:

+ A proper RNC will render a person unconscious within 7-10 seconds by restricting the blood flow to the brain – NOT the air flow to the lungs. A person will continue to breath even while the choke is being applied (a choke as opposed to a strangle cuts off the blood supply – not the air supply).

+ A person will continue to breath after they have passed out – breathing is an automatic bodily function. Breathing and chest movement is NOT a good indicator of whether a person is unconscious.

+ An unconscious person can still retain tension and rigidity within their muscles – an unconscious person does NOT automatically go limp. As such, muscle rigidity (e.g. a hand grabbing an arm to defend the choke) is NOT a good indicator of whether a person is unconscious.

+ Ocular fixation is a symptom of unconsciousness – the eyes remain open and fixed on a point in space, they do not track motion.

+ The Rule of 10: If you are applying a RNC and the person does not tap out within 10 seconds – release the choke. This is because either the choke is not being applied properly, or they have lost consciousness and cannot tap.

+ Know how to tap: You can tap with your hands OR your feet (especially important if your hands are entangled)! Always tap more than twice (preferably 3 or more times with emphasis) to ensure that the person applying the choke notices. You can tap on the person’s body OR on the mat. There is no shame in tapping. Every black belt has tapped thousands of times in training.

+ Have fun and be safe. You should be training to learn, and not to injure. That means looking out for your partner, and your partner looking out for you.

By: VisionQuest

VisionQuest — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 15:37:35 +0000

30-45 seconds??? Kid goes limp….kid goes dead, his f***** brain died….

This kid had to want to kill his older cousin.

My bro after training showed me the effectiveness of chokes that I never experienced in non-submission wrestling.

By: canguy

canguy — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 13:00:09 +0000

If big john did a slightly worse job Machida would have been in touble.

By: baller

baller — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:41:47 +0000

good video guy on the right is so knowlegble

By: KungFuLowKick

KungFuLowKick — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 04:28:35 +0000

@A lost art, wrestling
By wrastling I meant WWE.In the WWE the holds aren’t put correctly so the guys don’t get hurt.Thats what I was saying.I know wrestling is real.I’ doing sumbission grappling for almost 5 years now I think I know what I’m doing.You are just too pent-up that you can’t read correctly.And almost everytime we rolled it was with my buddies who did some judo or some guys I train with.You could try to submit me but i doubt you would with a chicken wing or a can opener.

By: Common Sense!

Common Sense! — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 01:43:39 +0000

I’m just glad it happened during a Wrestlemania get together, and not a UFC! They would’ve blamed it on the UFC and brought so much stupid negativity to the sport, wanting to ban it (again), etc…

By: Hanabahn

Hanabahn — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:44:03 +0000

These guys are a class act. The best. We need more people in the world like them.

By: A lost art, wrestling

A lost art, wrestling — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:32:11 +0000

Oh and why don’t you see but a few people use catch wrestling in MMA? Because most moves are too dangerous for an opponent, hence too effective, and illegal.

By: A lost art, wrestling

A lost art, wrestling — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:30:07 +0000

Yeah ok KungfuLowkick, first off you did exactly what this video warns of, and second, a lot of the moves you see in the WWE are real holds, simulated from catch wrestling, which is very real. Real wrestling(not scholastic, which is dumbed down for safety) has been around for centuries, and is very real, works, and many consider it better that jitz. I would personally love to break all your limbs and submit you with a simple chicken wing, can opener, or whatever while you try and use your jitz unsuccessfully.