UFC 105 MMA video of Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera. The fight took place on Nov 14, 2009 at the Manchester Evening News Arena.
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Another robbery! I was shocked. I had Vera clearly winning the last two rounds. I still don’t understand the judging criteria. So Randy clinches him to a stalemate. When they separate, Vera damages him with hard kicks, and then gets a takedown and a mount. What did Randy do of any significance? The judging system is seriously flawed.
wow I wish I could just push people up against the cage, and lean on them and get wins. WTF!
soo boring. Brandon was soo frustrated.
couture is done he should retire
Man no more ufc´s in england please.
Booooorrrring. couture is wack. vera has no heart. that is all
wow. what were the refs thinking? the ufc is going down hill.
Brandon got robbed.
As Randy himself said…not entertaining fight. How is possible to win a fight just pushing the opponent against the cage?, is that really martial art?.
Randy “the naturally boring” Couture
haha. they try to counter program pacquiao/cotto with this!!!!!!!!
Gimme a break!
Thnx bruno for saving me 50 bucks xD
If it wasn’t randy…I would say it was a boring main event…Randy is the man!!! Vera is wasted potential!!! Rogan said that Vera put a tremendous performance…PLEASE!!!
Kind of a boring fight. just amazing that Corture can compete at such a high level at 46 years old. I thought Vera won…i hate decisions.
im 38, and I’ll never let myself feel old and feel like I can’t do something because of my age. Randy is a true insperation.
Leave it to the judges and you can’t complain. I think Brandon could have finished that fight and didn’t…WHY?! I was frustrated that when he had Randy hurt he didn’t finish him. Maybe the judges were punishing him for that? Wow, the judging has sucked lately. Of course, they are going to favor a legend like Randy Couture with him controlling the fight. I
brandon hurt him bad with those kicks
Bruno: All posts comments with cursing or all capps go strait into the spam box.
Wow! I wasn’t expecting that decision!!
Somebody call the police. Brandon got robbed.
I would say Vera for the two kicks and the mount but Randy rocked him three times with hands and backed him up at the very end so I just don’t see the problem. It was a close fight that could have gone either way but Vera was the one always backing away when they started trading.
Rogan basically said Vera won, who is he to say that? He is becoming very annoying lately. I’m not saying Couture was better ,but…
good fight. randy did control most of the fight, but vera kicks were incredible
Brandon Vera GOT ROBBED–its a clear win for Vera!!!
No offends to Randy, but holding onto someone for 3 rounds are ridiculously pointless.
Close fight to call. Vera should’ve known you can’t go to a decision with someone who’s very popular like Randy. Vera should’ve had a better answer for all that clinching by Randy. Randy clearly didn’t want to strike with Vera and just s-n-p(stand[lay] and pray). Overall boring ass fight to watch. This fight to me didn’t do anything to impact the 205 pound division.
Hey thanx so much for putting this up bruno your the man. big hello from sweden
Bruno: Varsågod
anti-dopping for ufc judges imeditaly……..
WOW? ok if u put fedor against ranyd or vera, that would be a demolishment. This is YOUR MAIN EVENT??? lol. that was a very frustrating fight to watch. Randy is done, I cant believe just couple of months ago people wanted to see randy vs fedor. pure junk!
i wouldn’t say holding someone for 3 rounds was pointless. Brandon was tired as hell from Randy “holding” him. If Vera wasnt tired he woulda finished it in da 2nd after dat knee dropped randy. But… It was a good chess match
boring fight. brendan did a great job and did much more to win the fight. ufc judges suck,
u american’s crack me up – it was a boring UFC cause it was in England?? what a knobhead you are
whats wrong with joe rogan???
so close fight man..take a look to brandon 24:21 32 years, randy 46 24:12 c’m..
randy won c’m vera won a draw
Randy won based on:
1. Aggression
2. Octagon control
3. Effective striking
kyalan who said anything about England, everybody was commenting on how boring THIS fight was since it was a bunch of clinching. It’s just like when the brits were trying to say the American fans only hated Bisping because he was british even though no one said that, they all hated him because he acted like a deuche. Do you people just hear phantom insults about you everywhere you go or something?
MMA fan, how are you going to give Randy effective striking when Vera hurt him numerous times and almost finished him in the second? Aggresion, otagon control, it’s all a bunch of unclear nonsense, and that’s why we end up with so many silly decisions.
“What a fight : quote Joe Rogan” what fight was he watching?
Yet again another boring UFC main event.
Having said that I totally gave it Brandon. Looks like Couture pulled did a Clay Guida to get a fucked up win
– The UFC’s really starting to go downhill and it’s not because it’s in the UK in truth recently the pay per views suck over here in the states too.
BIG TIME!
The UFC is heading toward the exact same direction as the boxing did… The judges and Dana White is disgracing the sport like the judges from boxing and Don King have…
The bottom line is this is bull!!!
Sorry ass fight, but pretty good for a 46 year old.
Vera definitly won!!!
MPC: So you like 2 guys holding onto each other for 3 rounds with no damage, LOL
i call bull shit! o randy wtf was that
Brandon Vera was robbed shamelessly by the so called judges!!
thats funny, the pussies who say ufc is going down hill and how gay it is are the only fags commenting on how they saved money watching it here… two things fags: 1. dont like it, dont watch… 2. get good paying jobs instead of being such broke back bitches.. bitches.
Bad fight and a pretty lame card overall, so glad it was free.
absolute bullshit, randy sucks ……..
Y’all are bloody fools. Randy clearly won the fight. The ONLY thing he didn’t do was out kick the bloke. Other than that, man, he out boxed brandon and out muscled and out smarted him. Brandon’s 1 punch and 3 kicks were good. Quit bitching. Just quit. And Randy doesn’t need to retire, you knobjob.
I cant fucking beleive this…I will never watch another ufc event in the UK….Ever since the Hamill / Bisping robbery, I have been on a mission to burn and torture these UK judges…As much as i wanted Randy to win, this was a robbery…Vera clearly won this fight. Randy made this a boring fight, and then managed to pull off an upset. As soon as i heard the faggot UK bitch ass fans booh vera, I knew that if Vera didnt finish this fight , and he left it to the judges, he would loose..Randy looked like he was obviousley in great shape, but I was impressed with Veras ability to fight off Randys attempts at the takedowns…This was the second biggest robbery in UFC history…FUCK THE UK AND THEIR BULLSHIT ASS JUDGES!!!!!
these judges guidelines for the scoring system should be fucking burned!!!!archhhhraaaarrrrghhhhh!!!smashhhh!!!
In the UFC Control >>> Damage. Oh and Damage is not counted if it’s leg kicks!
Wrestling and clinching for Decisions is encouraged by the UFC’s (NSAC’s) garbage scoring system and judges.
Bring in the Pride Scoring/Judges please!!
Couture dominated the entire fight. I agree with subidoo and mma fan- he out muscled, out boxed, and outsmarted brandon. Kuddos to Brandon, sure. Quite a few nice kicks, a few good punches. But on that note- Randy landed many better combos. And, any time Brandon tried to get him on the fence, Randy imposed his will and turned it around.
Also.
Allow me to highlight an interesting contrast. Randy praised several of Brandon’s body hits and called him one hell of a fighter; no thanks or notes of appreciation from Brandon. I call that bad sportsmanship.
And to all of you– Do you all simply want blood? A “chess match” is way more difficult to pull off than a blood bath, and takes not just muscle but brain. I think this fight was an excellent combination of both.
Unlike most of your comments.
And cheers, UK!
Y’all are bloody fools. Randy clearly won the fight. The ONLY thing he didn’t do was out kick the bloke. Other than that, man, he out boxed brandon and out muscled and out smarted him. Brandon’s 1 punch and 3 kicks were good. Quit bitching. Just quit. And Randy doesn’t need to retire, you knobjob.
Way to go mma fan for your wee list
Randy won based on:
1. Aggression
2. Octagon control
3. Effective striking
I add 4.Better and smarter strategy.
the ufc sucks
For the people that are saying that Vera won, i really don’t understand you, at the end of the fight they read the score cards and they gave the fight to Randy Couture, watch the video again or something, jeez, some people..
The only good Couture did in this fight was his recovery from mount. As to Vera, I don’t know why exactly he has got so upset — he left it up to judges, he got what he was asking for — a decision!
UFC needs to give referee right to punish fighters purses for 5 to 10% for passivity. Just like they did in Pride.
you don’t score points stuck in a clinch, but you don’t score points with your back up against the fence for 3 rounds either.
Randy was the aggressor AND landed twice as many strikes. Round 1 was CLEARLY Randy’s. Round 2 was CLEARLY Vera’a with the knee that put Randy down.. but no one in their right mind, who is objective, can give Vera Round 3. The takedown at the end amounted to nothing. Again, Randy pushed the fight & landed more strikes.
I haven’t seen the 1st round yet but saw that last two live. Randy must have had a hell of a 1st round.
This also won fight of the night! LOL. I mean come on, u cant be serious. 1) Vera won that fight and 2) How was the Swick/Hardy not the fight of the nite.
First off england sucks. Second of all ufc gets worse with each promotion they put on but when they go to england we have to see the shittiest fighters like bisping.
Randy did control the fight, but unanimous decision? In my opinion Vera should have won…
Everyone keeps complaining that it was a boring fight. Seriously, what did you expect? That went exactly as I expected. The judges do suck, I would’ve gave it to Vera.
At least the rest of the matches were good.
ufc always delivers in boring fights
that was the main event ?
cage control ? who gives a f@#& about cage control
I have a question, If Randy were to fight Fedor within the next year, who do you guys think would win??
Yeah, not sure what fight some people were watching, but some folks need glasses. Randy spent 3:30 wearing Vera’s ass out. He won the stand up, he won the clinch. Yeah Vera got the take down where he did basically no damage and couldn’t hold him down. They traded pretty good after that, but never did Vera hurt Randy.
whereas Vera was definitely hurt when he got pressed into the cage early in the round where he had ZERO offense. Randy won that 3rd round handily. And seeing as it was easy to give Randy the first because he controlled the pace. I think Brandon clearly won the 2nd. Randy the 3rd.
2-1 Couture. Plain as day.
1) I think Vera won but it was close.
2) Does ANYONE this site actually train? Greco-Roman wrestling and dirty boxing are just another skill set and as “boring” as it may look to the uneducated observer it wears out your opponent while doing damage and eliminating your opponents offense. If you don’t know how to defend against Greco-Roman wrestling and dirty boxing you will get torn up and worn out. Very wrestled for Old Dominion and was an Olympic alternate for Greco-Roman wrestling.
3) Fedor would END Randy very quickly (and I’m a HUGE Randy fan having met him and trained at his gym in Vegas).
At best this was a draw, depending how you view winning…there was no clear winner.
First round Draw
Second round Vera
Third round Vera
That’s the fight I watched…holding doesn’t deserve wins and Couture was clearly hurt in the second round.
vera got robbed! only bright spot for FILIPINOS is PACMAN!!
I thought it was a good fight for the record, and I also think randy won, if you win 2 out of 3 rounds, that means you win the fight right?
Brandon Vera won, anybody who says different knows nothing about mma for example ufc judges the fact of the matter is a knock down and a full mount are more show of domination than executing your plan pushing someone against the fence is a good strategy when you plan to do something after they get worn out wich was not the case
Im seriously getting annoyed with ufc and the crap decisions ! This event did nothing good for the mma sport ! P.s. Dana sux. Vera won barely but he still shoud have gottton the decision!
Boring? Yes. Robbery? Hell no. It was close, but Randy came in with the well known purpose of wrestling and control, which he did most of. Brandon lands a few body kicks and thinks it was an easy decision for him? pffft.
And since when is is a shock how the judges do scoring? Who here didn’t know that octagon control and takedowns counted for way too much?
its called control
and randy control the hole fight
not every fight is going to be an exciting slugfest
randy is the man
Randy clearly won that. Hell, I was screaming at my screen towards the end of round 3 for
Vera to do something cuz it was clear to me that he was losing points-wise. Randy controlled him with the Greco in the first, pretty much lost the second, but outstriked (how in the f*ck I have no idea- I blame Vera’s lame ass) Vera in the 3rd, pressing forward and escaping Brandon’s little takedown. Obviously, I was going for Brandon, but he honestly dropped the ball in this one. I was expecting to see that bad-ass Vera we’ve all been hyped on for so long, but ONCE AGAIN,
he fails to arrive. And I hope that unlike alot of you Vera’s blaming himself. He should have finished the fight, and he had ample opportunity to do so. But, as was apparent in the Krystof fight, Brandon’s trigger is off. That boy just can’t seem to jump on his prey when they’re wounded. His problem is not physical, it’s mental. He needs to go somewhere and find that killer instinct . . . or get out of fighting, cuz he’ll never make champ, in either weight-class, pussy-footing around some dudes who LIVE to put a hurting on people.
hahahah couture a hall of famer he should be 16-11, poor record, poor decision, and a poor fighter i would love a shot
good thing this was free cause i would not ever watch on here
I don’t think it was a boring match (due to the stuff Matamoros posted). It’s just another skillset than striking or grappling on the ground, still interesting to watch and quite intense.
Think it was a close fight but nowhere near the Rua-Machida Robbery. Since this was not a Robbery.
I like how Randy acted after the fight, because he basically said that it’s just totally up to the judges. If they had looked out for different things, Brandon might have won. He’s a class act, Machida’s not.
Fedor vs Randy? are you kidding me; it’d be same as Fedor vs Brock? what do you think will happen to these guys once Fedor taps them on the chin?
This ufc puts together some garbage fights with their ridiculous oversized octagon and their unified rules SCAM! those announcers(rogan, goldberg) are heinous as well.
ufc is NOT MMA!
This was complete BS! Fak the UFC for an event like this…next BS fight Ortiz vs Griffin coming up. The Strikeforce event was better! Period. Randy is a legend but it’s not ok giving him the win for this fight! So frustrating to watch…
shut up matamoron, who cares if we train or not, ur arrogance stinks. if ur such a bigshot who met randy and train then mayb we cud waste our money to watch u get ur ass kicked in a boring junk fight. heres a 1 2 3 for u.
1. ufc is going downhill
2. the commentators, the ring girls. the whole promotion seems tired. Joe rogan is a twat!!
3. Randy should retire, the tools arent there
we should keep in mind that this was not a pay per view. whether these two can beat fedor or not, you must not forget that they are clearly 2nd or possibly third tier ufc heavy weights. they would be pitted against fedor where he is because they would be 1st tier heavyweights there. that’s the company he’s looking for.
this was a tough decision, but that is often what you get when you leave it to three subjective opinions. deal.
this was just another promotional ufc tour across the pond. you know when it’s going over there you’re not going to see a top fight card, so (while i’m not white’s number one fan) i’ll give him credit for leaving it free on cable tv. barring injuries he usually delivers when you gotta pay. that’s all you can ask because nobody is going to be 100%.
Vera was training for up and up fight
Randy was smart knowing he’z not as fast.. his reach aint much.. So he push em up on the cage for easier hitz..
ehh it was pretty squirly and pretty wack
but randy gotta do wat he gotta do to win naww mean
Bigbiscuits, – read comments from shan, markb and Lindsey
And secondly, who’s talking about Bisping on a Couture / Vera video??
Ninjatits has got it right – the PPV’s suck everywhere! regardless of location!
it wasnt a pretty fight – but really, at what point would you say Vera was winning? Maybe the second round – but other than that yes Randy did pin him against the cage for 2 rounds. I would file that under “octagon control” Vera couldn’t do anything and it was because of Randy’s actions. Those Vera kicks were sweet, but really you want to give someone a win cuz he kicked a guy a few times. Randy 2rds to 1 – it wasnt flashy, but it was a smart game plan, executed effectively. “Not bad for an old man”
When it comes to a point that the president is frequently warning the fighters saying “don’t leave it to the judges”, something is very wrong..
I really thing they should have a meeting to discuss the judging methods, cause it’s more and more controversial in each event
Randy sucks and he is boring. I do not see why do people like this man.
Randy vs Fedor! Please haters there is nobody in UFC handle the Great King of MMA Fedor.
Getting pretty pissed of by this bad judgements. Was hoping for Couture, but he didn´t bring aything but the octagon-control to that fight. It´s not even funny to watch, when you have that feeling that Couture gonna get the discision despite he really lost that fight.
I think they should electrocute the fence…
kyalan to be fair only shan had posted their comment before you posted and I responded, so if that’s only three comments (one at the time) out of 79 then why does it all the sudden become “you Americans” like everybody was saying it?
I was only using Bisping as an example, back when he was about to face Hendo at UFC 100 all the Brits would say the Americans only hated him because he was British when they would insult him even though in no way did they bring up that he was British but rather they hated him for his attitude.
This is how Randy will win all of his fights from this point forward. “Dirty Boxing” or some shit. He should be looking to finish, not hug the guy for 3 rounds.
A more fair decision would have been 2 rounds to 1 for Randy. Unanimous? No way.
It seemed like a close fight. Randy controlled the position for almost the whole fight and had good punch combos. Vera had a good takedown and mount, some really nice kicks and a few punches.
Bigbiscuits, you are saying “all the brits were backing Bisping” – er, no we weren’t.!
I’m not allowed to say “you americans” but you can say “all you brits” – pot, kettle, black are 3 words that spring to mind….
lets STOP the hateing and just thank both fighters..if you didnt like the fight then why watch it..dam you ppl grow the f*** up..or STOP watching ufc..if you wana talk TRASH then go and fihgt one of them and let ppl judge you..
blackbaron,
unanimous means all three judges choose the same winner, regardless of how they score the individual rounds…
round scoring and unanimous decisions are different…one is for rounds, one is for winner of the fight.
all three judges felt randy won the fight, not all the rounds…they did favor couture (2) vs vera (1)
I’m starting to loose credibility on the UFC. I mean, not even one judge saw Vera winning. This is absurd. I’ve heard some talks about a Fedor-Couture fight so I hope Dana had nothing to do with this, trying to create some hype for that fight while Randy should’ve retired a long time ago.
it wasnt a boring fight I mean I enjoyed the fight…But Vera shouldve have won no doubt about it…the only reason Randy Couture won is because his name is Randy Couture
couple of comments
1- WTF, since when in combat sports, controlling a fighter, in other words here, hugging him against the cage gives you the W in a fight?, I thought you win by beating the other person up, meaning here.. doing what Vera did to Couture, making bend over with his kicks and knees.. Couture never rocked Vera, couture never created amazing take downs.. HE HUGED HIM AGAINST THE CAGE
2- WTF, why are you watching this BS, the night when Pacquiao Cotto are having a REAL WAR..? I give due to its due, there has been nights when MMA showdowns have been more interesting that boxing fights.. but this one.. NO WAY IS ONE OF IT..
After watching that a 2nd time. Coutre had the first and 3rd round. It was still very close I wouldn’t of been surprised if Vera won.
Everyone here is stupid as hell. After watching it 3 times, it’s perfectly clear Couture won the fight. Vera caught him a couple of times and even mounted him. But Couture controlled 3/4 of the fight and gave Vera some nice knuckle sandwiches in round 3. Boring fight but smart fight for Couture. He played it safe for that “W”. He knew Vera had KO power.
Hey cbasaussie, Vera didn’t beat Randy up. At least not worse than Randy beat him up.
I’m watching it again. It is still VERY clear that Couture won. It’s close, but there’s no doubt in my mind. I’m still shocked that people think Vera won.
Couture out smarted, out muscled, and out moved Vera. Vera did not look impressive as usual.
I was very impressed with Couture.
First round Couture won easily. Second round most likely Vera. Third round most likely couture.
Joe Rogan is ridiculous. There has been some bad calls lately, but this is no example of such.
I am a Randy Couture fan but it was ridicolousy if the judges desn´t change their criteria UFC i will not pay to watch UFC anymore…
still couture!!
wrong Joe-Rogain….not problems with judging in MMA, just problems with judges in the UFC…big difference
Yet another fixed fight by the UFC…. What a Joke.. It’s a damn shame.
To hell with muy thai, bjj, and wrestling as skill sets for MMA. I’m opening up a new school dedicated to learning how to pin people against the fence. I’m sure with the current scoring system I can churn up a few world champs. Any takers? Seriously, I’m really scared for MMA. This might set a precedence on how to win fights.
“Cromagnonman”
Yet another WWF watching doofus who thinks that the UFC has anything at all to do with the judging.
kylan I gotta admit I’m a little confused as to how exactly you could misqoute me when my original comment is right in front of you. I will say I probably should have used language that was perhaps less vague, but I said exactly (because I’m copying and pasting here) “all the Brits would say the Americans only hated him because he was British.”
First off I in no way said all brits were rooting for him, secondly I didn’t mean literally all British people or even all British people that post on here I was referring soley to the Brits supporting Bisping and using that as an excuss. But again I admit my language might have been a little too broad.
Hey sergei, you missed the other thing that randy couture did besides get out of the mount. He out struck Vera. He out smarted Vera. He was more aggressive and persistent than Vera. He may have held him against the fence, but…
Vera did less than that. He just sat there and got shoved around. Besides his 3 kicks he landed, he got man handled.
Kap, you’re a smart man (or woman).
If Vera won, I would have been shocked! If it were a draw, I would have been only a little shocked.
Couture won this fight, clearly. Vera looked like a slug.
Vera won! PERIOD! the Hamill/Bisbing fight and now this??? RIGGED! They must be kidding!
“Thanks judges”.Hahahahahahaha
Can anyone tell me where and when Randy scored his points?
For a moment I thought Randy Couture was Alex Murphy/Robocop
Much love for you Brandon but you were just a victim of a Couture contract negotiation you have to finish him. Next time circle and when you switch your stance watch Randy’s movement and quickly switch back for a quick kick to the body. Big shout out to Eric!!!
people here saying randy won doesnt seem to know how to count. Couture may have won round1 and 3 with some gay cage pinning and powerless clinch punches but vera kocked him down in the 2nd so that means he had a 10 8. so that makes 28 for both of them so it may have been a draw but coutrure should’ve never won this fight with this kind of fighting.
knocked him down* …