Quinton Rampage Jackson Vs Forrest Griffin Video UFC 86 Fight

Forrest was the aggressor in this fight, plain and simple. Really surprised about Quinton’s performance (or should i say non-performance) last night. Forrest just wanted it more last night.

Great fight.
Rampage should learn how to use his legs.
Hope Machida gets the next title shot!!!

what a great fight can’t wait for the rematch

This was one of the most absurd decisions I have seen in the UFC, although I thought the Cote decision was rather poor last night also. Other than the leg kicks, Rampage clearly controlled the majority of the fight and dominated in grappling and effective striking. No damage was done by Forest at any point other than when he buckled Rampage’s leg, which he was unable to exploit for the remainder of the fight. Even if you do believe that Forest managed to win that fight, no true MMA fan can honestly say that 48-46 and 49-46 score cards is correct. Just plain absurd!

I believe this fight was close…but forrest did enough to take the win. Forrest had a great game plan not to overly commit and keep away from rampage’s power. Rampage also did go as well. I believe Forrest said that whenever he got hit, even if he parried a punch it would hurt alot.

I love how this is the one web site were no one is tryieng to cry and wine that UFC is rigged.

IMO Forrest kicked Rampage to the curb and won the match decisivly. I mean look at both guys when the match ends and tell me who you think the winner is.

I went to watch this video at another site cuz it was down here and it was a terrible experience everyone seemed to think that Rampage was somehow robbed. I think that that are all newbs and are clueless to MMA.

I am excited about Forest Griffin as the new champ.

Absurd decicions ?? What fights were you wtching last nite ?? Not the fights i saw- The forrest decision was the correct one. Rampage dominated the grappling ?? If getting put in a triangle and spending 5 minutes getting mounted is dominating the grappling then i would have to say that you are not a true mma fan- you dont even understand the sport- were you one of the judges that scored the Bisping-Hammel fight for bisping ???

Total BULLSHIT!!! forrest was never effective with his connect and more so the ability to control the fight. Rampage clearly out number him with punches connect and the GROUND GAME.

Being the aggressor and not scoring effective should not allow you to WIN on points,for 65% the fight was a stand-up fight, RAMPAGE out score Forrest on all connect blows!! The GROUND FIGHT, given that forrest got round 2, Rampage took round 1 and 4, which puts him ahead on points.

A good fight deserve a fair scoring and the JUDGES must have being drinking RED RUM that night.

forrest won the fight first round him second round him by 2 3rd and 4th rampage and last round forrest…forrest must have thrown about 50 leg kicks and missed with what 2? Rampage needs a cane to walk around today

If that’s all you have 2 do 2 beat the champion n the UFC then I’m not sure I’ll be watching any longer. The only major damage Griffin inflicted was from the leg kicks, & besides that he landed about 2 elbows n mount (2nd Round) & 1 combination (5th Round) that did minor damage. Most of his strikes were blocked by Rampage’s elbows & weren’t thrown with the intent 2 damage. The argument about the triangle choke was invalid because at no point did it seem like rampage was in trouble. I mean when you have time to adjust your grip for a powerbomb while in a fully locked triangle choke I’d say you weren’t close to tapping.
I’m a true fight fan and whether it’s boxing or MMA we all know (Or at least should know) that in a close fight that goes to decision the champion gets the benefit of the doubt and keeps his title. In the fifth round Forrest had to get a knockdown, takedown, or at dominate the round to get the title and he didn’t. This is just a ploy to get you guys shelling out money for the rematch lol.

Way to go forrest. You can count on Jackson that he will be back on top again. Gonna to be interesting to see what future fights Dana puts together for these guys.

wow!!! Forrest won that fight all the way! Forrest fought his fight rampage could do what he wanted therefore give griffin the win. I think griffin fucked rampages knee up,the way he was walking on it bet hes gonna need surgery.

im a really big rampage fan but he lost for sure no doubt about it

This of from the Bleacher report and better explains my feelings towards the fight.
The first round was a tough one to call. Griffin was clearly the better technical fighter, but Rampage hit the big hook that took Forest down. It was a toss up between precision and damage.

In my book I gave it to Griffin because he was the better fighter throughout the round. His defense after getting taken down was among the best I’ve ever seen.

The second round was the most clear-cut of the fight. Two kicks to the leg and Rampage became the wounded dog. Griffin got him on the ground and proceeded to physically dominate him while looking for the submission.

While trying to end it Forrest continued to smother Rampage and hit him in the head. Jackson looked wounded and finished. This is the round that made the judges give Forrest the title.

The third round, in my opinion, is why Griffin shouldn’t be champion. He had the chance to hurt the champ for good. He should’ve picked a moment to go for the leg and wrestle Rampage to the ground. Instead these five minutes were basically a light boxing match with Rampage landing the better shots.

The fourth round was the best round for Rampage in the fight. He got Griffin on the ground and was on top for the majority of the round. Griffin locked in a triangle at one point but Rampage lifted him up and if Griffin had held on to the triangle his head would’ve gone through the Octagon. Griffin’s defense was good but he didn’t hurt Rampage at all in the round.

In the final round it was anyone’s fight to take.

Griffin as the challenger has to beat the champ to be the champ. He didn’t do it. They fought an even round, and if you go by who was the better fighter in the round Rampage won the round.

Strategically, the last round was a Rampage round, and in a knotted fight any coin flip round should always go to the defending champion. Thus Rampage should’ve won the round.

im glad that forrest griffin won this fight but as a true mma fan i have to agree w koshiba that rampage was the real winner of this fight. he had a few chances where he could have knocked out forrest griffin and he did drop forrest in the first round but i guess the judges saw that forrest was more active throughout the whole fight by throwing leg kicks and taking down rampage

I’d say forrest won but I’d like to see that fight called as a draw because of the damage done to each fighters was pretty much equal, forrest even got a slightly more beat up

Rampage and Forrest are my two fav. mix martial art fighters ! quinton is the reason i started watching pride and ufc. and forrest became my boy in uf1. I watch this fight live and on here, and i must say i didnt see rampage or forrest show up at all. This fight look more of a friendship fight then a title match. Rampage lost his UFC belt, but does he still have his pride? Yeah i understand respect and game plan, and i also can point out bulls***. Forrest did win that fight, and was going to along. I really didnt wanna see my boys beat up on eachother, and they made my wish come true! But sadly thats not what UFC is about.

griffin seemed to be the more complete fighter..i wonder why rampage became a “counter puncher” here

kishoba your just jalous griffin won tha figth for sure great figth

over all it was a great fight even though there wasn’t a finish. I can see how some would think it’s a Controversy because it’s a title fight and you really have to show complete dominance. I say forrest won but didn’t completely dominate. after all this is what happens when you don’t finish someone. i’d like to see them go at it again. thanks again mmatko

Forrest pushed the fight while Jackson waited. Capitalizing on a mistake can end a fight, but it won’t win a decision.

If being the aggressor doesn’t matter to the judges, Kalib Starnes would still be in the UFC. Plain and simple. Forrest wanted to win the fight, whereas Jackson wanted Forrest to screw up.

Plus, Forrest gets cut easier than a block of cheese. In almost every fight, he’s bleeding. Just cuz he got a bad cut doesn’t mean he got hit more than Rampage. Some people get cut a lot easier than others.

Do you wanna know who won? Just watch the fight again and keep an eye out for who tried more to win the match.

Seems to me that Rampage was holding back.
I think they told him to in order to setup the rematch. Next time around Rampage wins hands down! Clearly Griffin is a better rounded fighter but Rampage could knock him out if he wanted to!

1st Round - I had it even. Jackson landed the big uppercut but other than that Griffin was dominating the round. He limited the damage by keeping him in guard and then scrambled back to his feet. Those leg kicks aren’t as flashy as the big punches but they hurt Jackson bad and they count.

2nd Round - Griffin dominated the round with leg kicks. Got the take down and stayed in a dominate position. You could even argue it being a 10-8 round for Forrest.

3rd Round - Close round could have gone either way. Jackson landing the crisper punches but Griffin again was more active and landed the low kicks and mixed in a few high kicks as well.

4th Round - I gave it to Jackson. He landed some big shots but he also got caught in a Triangle Choke and did almost nothing from the dominant position.

5th Round - All Griffin … he was in better shape and it showed.

Congratulations Forrest Griffin. He’s the new Light Heavyweight champion and he’s what the sport is about. He worked hard and took advantage of his opportunity.

By the way nobody is nut hugging Forrest Griffin. The few people who saw this fight going to Rampage don’t understand that this isn’t a street fight. Rampage hits harder than Griffin and he had Griffin hurt a few times but other than a few power punches here and there he didn’t do much. Joe Rogan said the same thing … yea he landed a few hard shots even dropped Griffin but he was inactive and Forrest executed his game plan to perfection. Griffin outworked him all night. I don’t wanna hear that Bernard Hopkins shit like “He never had me hurt.”

Was a match that I wish both guys could have won. I had Rampage winning 1,3 and 4, due to landing the more solid blows. Round 2 was all Griffin but I would never have thought it would be a 10-8 round as Forrest did zero damage on the ground. Round 5 was close but I gave it to Forrest as he was more agressive.

I was expecting a closer result, I found that the fight wasn’t as onesided as the results show.

Great fight from both guys..job well done..Rampage lost this fight, cuase to me, he did not show up, forrest did his best to hold off rampage & did a dang good job on rampage on round 1 with those leg kicks & round 2 he dominated & round 3 was ramapge & round 4 was a draw to me & round 5 was anybody’s & the result was forrest taking the title..

Rampage could not figure out forrest..

how can people say rampage did more damage??? where did he damage forrest? yes forrest had some damage in his face but that wasn’t close to the damage rampage had on his leg, as he self said in the interview after the. “yes forrest whooped my ass” and he also said that he is a bad actor and couldn’t hide the pain he had when forrest kicked his leg. so how can people say rampage won when even rampage doesn’t do so?!

Are you guys retarded? are you kidding me? You all say your huge fight fans and still don’t understand how scoring works? Forrest Griffin (as mad as you all may be) won that fight, he won 3 of the 5 rounds, its obvious in the video’s.. he was the aggressor, he controlled the ring, his strikes were good, he mounted jackson, and controlled the ENTIRE 5th round… wake up kids

kind of a disappointing match. Forrest uses more of a calm calculating approach like Chuck Liddel or Randy Cotoure, but he doesn’t have the power to KO. His punches ain’t there yet. See every punch Rampage threw was crisp. I don’t know, Forrest was just better that night. Quinton is still a better fighter. I think a rematch is in order…

I would call that fight a draw, 47-47 as far as I’m concerned. But come on you have to give the nudge to Rampage for damage done. Remember on this season of TUF when Cale and Brandon fought; Dana said that Brandon did more damage … same thing here. Gotta give it up for Forrest for hanging in there good for him.

rigged, never thought they would do this again after the Bisping-Hammel

this was not the rampage we have seen before. we all saw the same fight and I think it comes down to who you wanted to win and you go with that, but forrest didn’t really do enough to win the fight and he even knew it just watch the end when the ref is holding both hands. Rigged? maybe not but lets say that UFC and others could make more money on a rematch. something smells bad with this fight. I like ufc but something wasn’t right - rampage didn’t seem to fight like he has in the past and forrest didn’t do that much damage (quit talking about the knee) - but they give the fight to forrest anyway - because of his “story” and people like to see an underdog win and this bled over into those who scored the match. sad.

Wah, Wah WAh!!! Rampage got beat. Fair and square. Jesus, stop making stupid excuses. Great Job Forrest. He is a smarter fighter. Their is a reason all his fighters clearly dominated all of Rampages even with Rampage having some of the better talent. Forrest is a training Mainiac who deserves the belt.

the fight did not live up to all the anticipation of what it could be.there was not nearly as much action as expected.obviously,Rampage is a tough striker and wrestler and Griffin has been known as a brawler.so noone really expected the fight to go to the score cards.but Mike Goldberg made a good point when he said that Griffin has changed up his style recently realizing that he isn’t a “knockout or get knocked out”type of fighter.he has become much more intelligent with the way he fights.his fight with Bonner was a classic,but it wasn’t as exciting as it could have been because neither fighter was doing significant damage to the point of stopping his opponent.it was a brawl,but not a brawl in the sense of a wanderlei silva or chuck liddell type brawl where you know that at any second someone can go down from the power of the shots being thrown.so he has altered his mentality to be more technical.Forrest began to show flashes of that in his fight with Rua.i’m sure Jackson just expected Forrest to try to brawl with him and was confident that he could drop Forrest.Griffin’s game plan really stifled Rampage.this was not the Rampage were used to seeing.even in the stare down he didnt look like a pit bull ready to kill like he normally does.those leg kicks are what defined the night.to anyone who has never taken a good stinging leg kick,it makes a huge difference in a fight,especially when landed as frequently as in this one.Quinton could definetly have dropped Griffin but was weary of getting in close after his leg was in so much pain.from the third round on,Rampage was moving backward.when is the last time that has happened?although Jackson’s punches might have been more powerful when they landed,he just didnt land nearly enough to win the rounds.Griffin probably out scored him two to one with punches.I also believe that you have to really beat the champion to take the belt,but at the same time,the champ has to really work to defend that belt.he can’t just survive.overall Forrest Griffin was the better fighter in this match up.

If anything they should of done a 6ths round and whoever won that round wins

I’m in awe at the idiots that say “if it goes to decision the champ should take it.” Are you utterly retarded? Why should there be a double standard for champions? Rampage didn’t KO Forrest, so why would he deserve to keep the belt? Do you morons think that Tim Sylvia should have kept his belt as well when Randy Couture dominated his ass for 5 rounds and got the decision victory? GTFO.

Anyone that says Rampage won is an idiot. The first round was Forrest to take. Although Rampage did get that knock down, it was not sufficient enough to win it because Forrest was controlling the entire round except for a mere 30 seconds where he got caught. Rampage caught him and did nothing on the ground, and Forrest got up quickly.

If you know anything about mma and the ufc, then it is clear as day that Forrest is the victor. He was controlling the octagon.

Wow, Forrest Griffin is terrible he couldn’t knock out a five year old girl let alone Rampage. The only round Rampage lost was the second, and if you think otherwise quit watching UFC. Griffin hardly did any damage aside from the knee, seriously was he throwing fists or pillows at Rampage? Anyway I’m sure he’ll lose his next fight, the only way he can win is by submission. Other than that he is garbage, I think he should try to get into the World Combat League or something, peace.

and then there are people that somehow say “forest griffin is terrible” what?

wait….what?

yep, he accidently beat jackson and rua….the bonnar fight was shitty…..i remember another “terrible fighter” that couldn’t knock people out, royce gracie….that guy was such a shitty fighter, i mean he seriously never knocked anyone out! and everyone knows to be the best you have to be able to knock everyone out!

Round 1 - Rampage. Round was close, Forrest probably winning, but the knockdown / damage swings it to Rampage

Round 2 - Forrest. Controled the whole round

Round 3 - Draw. Too close to call either way

Round 4 - Rampage. Cleaner shots, control.

Round 5 - Forrest. More active / aggressive.

It’s a draw in my book. No way is it more than 1 pt difference in this fight and that depends on how you score round 3. You could argue round 3 should go to Rampage because he is the champ and Forrest didn’t do enough to take it.

i like both of the guys Jasonicus, forrest won the first because of the number of kicks and punches thrown, jackson hit him but then it went immediaty to the ground where forrest had him in guard, defended himself well, and jackson did jack squat…one punch doesnt make the round asshole, esp in refs eyes..didnt even knock him out to the point where rampage could capatalize…watch the fight again douche bag

the decision should have went to the champ BECAUSE IT WAS A CLOSE MATCH,OBVIOUSLY IF FORREST DOMINATED ALL 5 ROUNDS THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE!!!!!!!!!USE YOUR BRAIN BEFORE SYAING STUFF LIKE “I’m in awe at the idiots that say “if it goes to decision the champ should take it.” Are you utterly retarded? Why should there be a double standard for champions? ” being the champion means your better than the previous guy not being even or a little better, cuz little better doesnt mean anything in the UFC

Anybody who insults the quality of this fight is a fucking idiot and a poor excuse for an MMA fan. In my opinion, Forrest’s control of the pacing was less important than Rampage’s flurries and scoring with the hands. That’s just my opinion. Forrest is tough as nails and was hit hard several times during the fight, knocked down, rocked, et cetera.

Great fight, I believe Rampage won rounds 1, 3, 4

Griffin won 2 10-8 and 5

Rolf boyle, since when does controling the center gain a fighter points? Ridiculous.

If you think the champion should automatically get the decision you are retarded. I would much rather be griffin at the end of that fight. Rampage’s biggest hit phased griffin for like ten seconds, then he quickly got back up. Griffin controlled the octagon for like 70+% of the fight. He clearly deserved the win.

and robert, ring control is one thing judges look at when giving points. Best example is watching this fight, Forrest always walked in front of Rampage and strafed to left or right to keep center of the ring his, leaving Rampage outside the circle. He walks along the octagon painted on the mat, keeping him in control the whole time, putting him in a better position to strike. It’s easier to attack and the hits are harder when you’re in forward momentum, backward momentum balance is harder to maintain as well.

I am not going to say this fight was a set up, but during his post fight interview with Rogan, Forrest Griffin did not seem to be convinced of his victory nor did the fans. To be a champion you must clearly an definitively beat a champion. Forrest Griffin did not do that tonight. The first round belonged to Rampage. Second round 10-8 to Forrest, but throughout the last three rounds of the fight it was a stand up battle clearly controlled by Rampage and his superior hands. Forrest Griffing struggled the entire night with over- extending himself and Rampage punished him repeatedly for it. Forrest had superior leg kicks during the first to rounds but they were nullified by Rampage from Round 3 thru round 5. Now if we take a look at the UFCs own scoring system it is based on “effective” striking, I highlight effective because, other than the second round, Forrest Griffin never landed anything effective. Grappling, clearly Rampage. Aggression, Forrest was the aggressor during alot of the fight but he was eating punches for his trouble. Octagon control belonged to Rampage because of his superior hands. Watch the fight with those things in mind and you can’t go wrong when it comes to a decision. Listen to Forrest himself and the crowd. They knew he didn’t win and so did Joe Rogan.

i guess it doesnt matter how many punches you land, its all about how much you throw bcuz pretty much every punch that forrest threw was dodged by rampage. if you take their punches thrown/landed average you would see that the numbers are way different than you would even imagine. shit i think if i was to let my 5 year old cuzzin into the ring, put him in the corner, face him towards the judges and have him shadow box as fast as he can the judges wouldve gave him the fight, just bcuz thats how dumb they are. they dont consider accuracy and damage that is inflicted. they see punches thrown and they light up like a fat kid in a candy shop. sure forrest hurt rampage’s knee but rampage did a terrific job of protecting his leg later and never backed down he came out with head to head action. the breakdown (Rampage…..productive, Forrest….fucken terrible)
p.s.
joe rogan is gonna get it if i ever come into contact with that clown.

tyson griffen dominator rampage the hole 3 rounds

i thought forrest won, rampage seemed to pick up some steam later on. round 1 and 4 were very close. i thought round 1 was a draw and forrest definetly won a 10-8 in the second round

mma-fan0,
shut yo mouth b4 i bust yo grill. people like u belong between my legs doing extra special work bcuz u dont belong watching mma.

thanks for fixing!