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markus Says, in 1-9-2008 at 18:22:09 from 24.128.16.232    

dude….. beat down…

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Black Gerbil1 Says, in 1-9-2008 at 20:41:11 from 78.150.117.247    

What a great fight, two people banging and Bass Rutten on the commentry !!

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Brendan Says, in 1-9-2008 at 23:03:42 from 146.171.254.66    

Not so cocky in the end mr asian…

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DC Says, in 1-10-2008 at 02:16:59 from 68.147.63.114    

Holy mismatch Batman. So typical of Pride.

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dirty 7-30 Says, in 1-10-2008 at 02:32:27 from 99.227.13.44    

UFC is pussy shit compare to Pride… all their fighter act all tough and shit… mean while UFC rules protect them… look how vicious PRIDE was without all the tough guy acts from their fighters, they saved it all for the ring…. UFC SWALLOWS… and is too pro-America the “A” in MMA stands for AMERICA… not ARTS!

I bet you Rich Franklin got two shots to beat Silva just because he was American, if Silva had beaten another Brazilian there wouldn’t have been a rematch. The UFC’s worst nightmare would be to have FEDOR as HW champ… Imagine that… all the UFC belts on non anglo-american weists.

UFC SWALLOWS!!!! M-1…the re-birth of PRIDE!!!!

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MINATO808 Says, in 1-10-2008 at 02:55:32 from 67.49.190.101    

Seriously BRENDAN does it really matter that he’s Asian. You do realize that most martial arts that you watch originated in Asia. While Yamamoto made himself look like a jackass with all his bravado you’re making yourself sound like a racist jackass. Cool fight though.

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mefninja Says, in 1-10-2008 at 23:28:38 from 65.95.49.212    

this is why ufc is better than pride.. though this is a extremely entertaining fight.. this guy isnt even on the level crocop is.. thats why all these pride fighters looked soo great.. they faught chumps.. in UFC the fighters are always being tested.. thats part of the reason why pride fighters do bad in UFC.. they are overrated… I’m jus hope the humiliating loses these pride fighters have had in UFC (shogun, crocop) will be enough to make them train harder and come back on point. UFC>pride and M1

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dirty 7-30 Says, in 1-11-2008 at 00:24:39 from 99.227.13.44    

Put UFC fighter in a ring and they will get demolished like your godly hero Liddell! UFC is full of punk ass bitches.. only rednecks look up to the UFC, and use it as an MMA measuring stick. Look at how UFC fighter cut weight just to have an advantage… in stead of weighing 185…they weight 205 on fight night… pussies.

Any who.. say what you will about PRIDE… but no matter which way you put it… PRIDE fights were more exiting than UFC.

Typical American all you care is about the Win/ Loss record of a fighter, never really paying attention to the fighter’s skills, and his ability to put an entertaining fight.

UFC SWALLOWS!!!

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niv Says, in 1-11-2008 at 00:51:58 from 75.155.166.62    

Mefninja I have to disagree with you on your assessment of Pride. If you watched enough Pride fights you would see that the top fighters fought top competition more than fill in’s like this guy.

Cro Cop fought Fedor, Minotauro Noguiera, Aleksander Emelianenko, Wanderlei Silva twice, Victor Volchanshyn and Josh Barnett to name a few. Every single one of those guys were fought when they were in their prime.

Wanderlei Silva fought guys like Kenzushi Sakuraba 3 times, Quinton Jackson twice, Dan Henderson twice just to name a few. Keep in mind that Sakuraba had defeated half of the Gracie family including Royce. Sakuraba submitted Quinton in Pride and was subsequently ko’d 3 times by Silva.

Pride was way tougher and their fighters are top notch. Silva quite simply has fought one too many wars and his career is over, but there is no doubt in my mind the best 205 pounder ever was Wanderlei Silva.

Guys like Shogun will show what he’s made of, and people will see soon what he really can do. I also find it strange how 2 belts in the UFC are owned by Pride fighters who never held a belt in Pride, yet no one can give any credit to Pride for this. After Noguiera does away with Sylvia that will be three former Pride fighters holding belts, but this guy was a champion in Pride also.

Give it at least one more year for Pride fighters to adjust to the softer rules of UFC, then we will have a better stick to measure everyone with.

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chopstickthugz Says, in 1-11-2008 at 01:59:09 from 69.109.43.186    

i dont like the fact that UFC rules advantage the wrestlers and we all know why because US is full of wrestlers… i mean come on not even Vale Tudo kicks? one of the reasons why UFC is less exciting than Pride FC is that so many wrestlers going for take downs and just ground n pound oh yeah they dont try very hard to even pass the guard… not even submission just … cant show skills of MMA. also elbows… they are just brutal weapons that causes cut n stop the fight which noone wants to see in the fight. if they allowed Vale Tudo kicks at least the opponent on the ground could still fight against the guy on top instead of hugging each other for whole 5 min…

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MMA_FANATIC Says, in 1-11-2008 at 02:30:36 from 70.129.167.47    

I agree with NIV and dirty 7-30. Pride was the TOP organization and had a more dynamic mix of quality fighters. The Pride fighters will get adjusted and do much much better in the UFC. For one thing….cage fighting favors wrestlers. It sucks when I see a good fighter get smuttered by a wrestler on the fence. I know it is all part of the game but it doesn’t favor the Pride fighters one bit….I feel that they should unify all of the MMA rules as well as decide on either cage or ring…not both.

One thing that I really hate about UFC is that it is truly, like dirty 7-30 said,…PRO american. That freaking U S A chant is bothersome and disrespectful to the fighters of other nationalities. (I can’t wait for the Redneck foolasses to comment….typical Hillbillies) It is OK to be patriotic but minimize those stupid chants. Also – If people are truly MMA fans…watch fighters from other organizations and keep an open mind.

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DC Says, in 1-11-2008 at 13:28:18 from 136.159.197.185    

The fans may be obnoxious, but the organization itself, the fighters it encompasses, and the Joe Silva’s phenomenal matchmaking that pits them against each other make for some amazing competitions. My favorite fighter being GSP, there are non-stop ‘USA’ chants in every one of his fights, which I find intolerable. The boos when fighters go to work on the ground are also pretty bad. But, as I mentioned, this doesn’t detract from the quality of the fights, and fans will grow up with the sport as it becomes more mainstream.

As a side note, the Nevada gaming commission and other organization won’t sanction fights that involve head-kicks (I think NJ is just now saying they’re ok, correct with if I have this backwards), but until they are all in agreement UFC can’t adopt these rules. I see them coming in eventually though.

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DC Says, in 1-11-2008 at 13:45:01 from 136.159.197.185    

Excuse me, Nevada State *Athletic Commission.

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ace Says, in 1-11-2008 at 16:32:16 from 58.152.156.233    

Totally agreed that ufc is pro american, look how quickly matt hughes and rich franklin got a title shot. There are better fighter in their division like mashida and thiago silva. Either one of them will beat rick franklin easily. fucking pro amercian ufc bullshit!!! fucking red neck farm boy over the hill matt huges get another title shot so quickly, when sanchez, fitch, thiago should be getting a shot.

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ace Says, in 1-11-2008 at 16:46:24 from 58.152.156.233    

i have to say the only reason ufc american fighters are winning because they are good at cutting weight. pound for pound they have no chance against the foreign fighters. i think they should weight the fighters right before the fight and not a day earlier, then lets see who is the best!!! this weight cuting thing is bullshit and is cheating. look at sean sherk is obviously a steroid freak, i dont even need the test to tell that he is using it. ufc is so fucking bias it sucks. tim silvia gets another title shot?!?!? what the fuck?!?!? Kongo should be getting a title shot not the uncoordinated white trash tim silvia!!!

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derek Says, in 1-12-2008 at 16:06:46 from 208.5.148.44    

damn, quit hatin. if ur gonna bitch go to someone who cares for real lol

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KILLA Says, in 1-13-2008 at 03:29:40 from 24.85.132.191    

that’s wack. yea soccer kicks are vicious an pride is very very vicious…. but a soccer kick is a cheap victory. I mean seriously – who on earth can get up from a soccer kick?? and especially one delivered by Mirko Crocop!!

At 1st I thought the UFC was pussy for disallowing stomps, soccer kicks, & kneeing a downed opponent. but after seeing this maybe all those moves seem kind of weak coming from strong fighters such as crocop… it’s just disappointing seeing a fighter of his caliber resorting to street fighting tactics.. i mean this is sport after all.

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Mma all day Says, in 1-13-2008 at 03:55:49 from 24.85.132.191    

I agree that UFC is incredibly pro-american & downright discriminant against all other nationalities. most of the fighters in the UFC are either American or Brazillian which is something I never understood. You know there are 5 other continents & over 270 countries to choose fighters from!!!! let’s see some diversity like the old UFC days.

I too think that the “USA” chants every time GSP fights are deplorable & a shame to the sport. GSP shouldn’t take that kind of disrespect. He is a true champion & a true sportsman & for him to have to put up with the attitude of Matt Hughes & all his brainless redneck fans just to get Dana White to cut a paycheque is an abhorrent injustice.

Furthermore it is a travesty when an obiese sloth like Tim Silvia can still be regarded as a contender for the Heavyweight Title by “winning” every one of his last 10 fights with a sloppy decision!!!

To further emphasize the pointless practice of cutting weight! Joe Rogan said that Joe “Diesel” Riggs is a natural 220 lbs… he cuts over 50 lbs to get to 170 & then what??? gets back up to 220??? what is the purpose of weight classes if this is the case???

Not to mention that some fighters like fan favorites such as Forrest Griffin get all the time in the world to prepare for a fight while less favored fighters get only 2 weeks to get ready and then obviously lose due to lack of conditioning, etc. This was always the case with BJ Penn. And such was the case in the Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz fight. It belittles Tito’s name to put Rashad on the same level as his never mind putting him in the same cage.

All things considered, I have to say that the UFC is a disgrace to the sport of MMA & Dana White should be ashamed of his manipulating tactics & moneygrabbing sensationalism. He’s the Vince McMahon of MMA!!

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MackTruck Says, in 1-13-2008 at 07:58:43 from 68.104.37.61    

Awesome fight!
After all, it is a fight!
All these girls need to stop whining about soccer kicks and stomps. It’s a fight, you do what you gotta do to win!
When I fight, I do what I can to not get my ass kicked!

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ace Says, in 1-13-2008 at 08:37:34 from 58.152.156.233    

remember at one time all the ufc title holders were white americans

hw – tim sylvia
lhw – chuck liddel
mw – rich franklin
ww – matt hughes
lw – sean sherk

co-incident…dont think so…look how quickly franklin and hughes got another title shot, and couture could come out of retirement and got a title shot right away..mmm goes to show yet again ufc is bias

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dirty 7-30 Says, in 1-13-2008 at 16:58:26 from 99.227.13.44    

Finally people that see what I have been saying for so long… I’m not anti-American, anti-UFC.. what I am is anti-bullshit… and that’s what UFC and their fans are.. bullshit… and Dana is a black eye for the sport… He thinks “he is” the sport… and America is the center stage… to generate money he gives Americans what they want, American Champions…

That’s why I miss PRIDE… Yeah at times they were pro-japan (but never screamed “Nippon” when a Japanese fighter was fighting a foreigner) that’s because the competition was so incredible, that is was great to have a Japanese fighter up in the ranks, and is showed that the audience respected all the fighter equally… the organization respected the fighters… isn’t RESPECT a huge part of martial arts?…

As an MMA aficinado I feel robbed when I watch UFC, they don’t put the best skilled fighters in a cage, they put the ones that generate the most money, mainly feeding the American audience because all the Americans want to watch is Americans fight and win.

I knew the UFC was like this, but since there was always pride, I didn’t really care. I hope M-1 gets rolling soon.

M-1 all the way…

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jeremyemilio Says, in 1-13-2008 at 17:05:44 from 142.167.32.105    

The reason some Pride fighters have had trouble adjusting to the UFC is quite simple, really. The UFC has a number of ex university and Olympic wrestlers. These guys brought with them a tradition of sucking weight by large degrees (meaning many of them fight at nearly 20 pounds above the weight they weigh-in at). The other UFC fighters have been forced to pick up the technique themselves in order to compete. In general, Pride fighters are used to fighting at very close to their weigh-in weight. The result is that when Pride fighters have met UFC fighters, they have been essentially fighting competition from a higher weight division. If they are going to succeed, it is going to be because they learn to suck weight and fight guys their own size.

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dirty 7-30 Says, in 1-13-2008 at 17:07:40 from 99.227.13.44    

As for soccer kicks…. the only reason Pride eventually allowed them was because they are hard to land, so are stomps, not as easy as it looks, remember these are trained fighters, not some punks off of the streets… yeah the ones that land make the highlight reels, but the hundreds that miss never do. They don’t do as much damage as elbows, and they are way harder to land than elbows.

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arly Says, in 1-26-2008 at 02:44:08 from 74.132.147.228    

Okay, for all you idiots who think that the UFC is pro-American. I will name top 3 American fighters in each weight class. You name any other country that has that many top tier fighters from the same country. This as already done on Sherdog, and there are more top 50 ranked American fighters in the world than all the other countries combined. But I will name some off the top of my head for each weight class, see if you can do better.

HW Couture, Sylvia, Barnett (or Vera)
LHW Rampage, Liddell, Henderson (or Jardine)
MW Henderson, Franklin, Linland (or Marquardt)
WW Hughes, Serra, Penn (or Fitch)
LHW Penn, Sherk, Stevenson (or Koscheck)

Some guys are multiple weight classes, so I put in alternates just in case. I left off great fighters too. I’m sure there are a handful of Amercan fighters I forgot.


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