Michael Bisping Vs Matt Hamill UFC 75 Fight Video

Are you kidding me? Maybe I’d give Bisbing the third round, but which of the first two rounds would you steal from Hamil? This is coming from a Bisbing fan. I don’t understand this decision.

Matt hamill dominated this fight. He had Bisping backing up almost the whole fight. Not to mention his ability to take him down at will. Bisping may have thrown more punches but they were all right into the guard of hamill. Bisping never even hit hamill with a punch that rocked him. Not a single judge had the fight scored correctly, even the judge that scored it 30-27 hamill. It shuold have been 29-28 in favor of hamill. Period.

Matt Hamill clearly won! I like both fighters and was torn over the fight. But Hamill came out strong and had Bisping on the run the first two rounds. Bisping tried to come back in the third round but it was too little too late and Hamill took it to the ground. Bisping was never the aggresser and Hamill kept the pace. When the judges scored it for Bisping everyone that was watching it with me was outraged. Bisping should be outraged to if he really loves this sport. People say that fights and sporting events are rigged…..they just might be right. How awful because I love MMA and the UFC. Not only is Matt Hamill the unfortunate loser in all of this but so are all the fans!

If you scored it the same as the judges, then you are an idiot too.

matt won bullshit mma takes a churn to boxing

I watched the fight last night and just watched the first half again right now. I have hamill winning the whole first half. I don’t remember seeing anyone really dominate after this. I remeber Bisping loking fresher the rrst of the fight, but this doesn’t conclude a win. I thin at best it was a draw. And I still have to give it Hamill outsdie of a draw. I would like to know how the judges are scoring these fights. I also didn’t like the scoring on the Henderson-Jackson fight. It seemed like just cause one guy looked tired and less fresh that was means for losing. I didn’t see Jackson or Bisping take it to there opponents, they weren’t hardly connecting. My opinion.

Truley sad decision. To top it off, jerkbag had to go and taunt hamil, a deaf dude, who can’t hear him anyways, bisping just lost any credibility he ever did have. I don’t care if your a from usa, england, or a f*cking outer space, you have to give it to Hamill.

Hamil won this fight, clearly. It’s a sad day for MMA fans to see this kind of bullshit, and I assure you as a long time fan of the sport I will not be giving Dana White my forty bucks in two weeks. F*ck that and f*ck those guys, talk about bullshit. And f*ck england.

This fight should have gone to Matt without a doubt. He was the winner of the first two rounds and may have given the third to Bisping for that ONE PUNCH he landed solidly. I hate to see this kind of behavior from the UFC. We, a large group of fans, were hoping that the UFC would not turn into a WWA type of sport where the outcome is predetermined. I doubt fans will continue to pay for these fights in the future when there is an unfair outcome. I can tell you a few people at our party said they were finished with watching UFC now. It is sad to see this. Shame on Dana White to allow this to happen!

I’d give the first round to Hamill albeit uneffective he clearly dominated the round. The second round I’d give to Bisping. His striking looked more effective and the one take down Hamill scored that round just looked like both fighters falling down in exhaustion. The third round looked rediculous to me and I don’t remember seeing Bisping do anything in that round (one solid knee?). It looked clear to me that Hamill won that round. Neither fighter looked very effective. Bisping’s stand up looked pretty good throughout the fight, but it didn’t look like it paid off. Hamill looks like he improved 100%, but he still doesn’t finish his opponent off after he takes him down (Bispings ground defense looked descent) and clearly needs to work on his stamina (he looked terribly gased in the second round).

Those haymakers that Hamill was throwing the whole match at least proved to me that Bisping could take a punch (I’m actually surprised neither fighter was knocked out in that match). Before this fight I thought Bisping looked very promising and he was quickly becoming a fighter I wanted to watch, however, the first big fight he gets I could see him losing. I can see the Hamill hype now, this is the first time in any of the fights that I’ve seen him in that he looked like a raw talent(I honestly think that is the coaching though and without it he would never make it).

Well I’d give the fight to Hamill, I could see how he lost it. Bisping’s stand up looked a lot more effective. I want to chalk up Hamill’s loss to how ineffective everything he did was (though he did look like dominant fighter to me). I think they should schedule Ortiz v. Bisping. Round 1 >> Ortiz knocks out Bisping.

I am a huge UFC fan I have purchased every PPV for the past 3 years and I can honestly say I have never seem a decision that was as biased as this one ever. Hamill won the first round hands down, second one could have gone either way IMO and the third one again IMO goes to Hamill again mainly because he took Bisping down every time he wanted to.
Bisping is a complete jerk. how can you sit there after you got you got your ass whooped for 15 minutes, get GIVEN a win by some bull crap judges that two of them should be fired… and say that Hamill should go back to wrestling??? I have lost the little respect I had for this mediocre MMA fighter, this showed no class whatsoever. He is lucky Matt couldn’t hear him say that or he might have gotten his ass owned for 15 more minutes.
This fight’s decision was a disgrace to all people involved with the UFC, all the fans, and even London… where Bisping fans were booing him after the fight and cheering for the actual winner.

Initially, I was absolutely furious at the decision because I felt Hamill killed Bisping and felt he could taken him down and pounded him into submission at will. However if you count only points from hits, it does seem to be a close decision in favor of Bisping. The thing is Hamill hits mush harder and is hardly fazed by the brit’s sissy little punches and thus dominates the octogon. Unfortunately the judges only look at the number of punches landed, not their power or the damage they do. I say Hamill will get a rematch and destroy Bisping as long as he remembers not to let Bisping hit him just because the punches don’t hurt him, as they nonetheless affect the decision.

I thought it was a draw. With that being said Hamill didn’t do anything with the takedowns and other than the big punch in round one he didn’t do alot other than jab and allow Bisping to dance around him and score points. Hamill needs to sort out his cardio, as he faded towards the end. You can never leave a fight in the judges hands. Bisping is too small for 205 and looked nervous.

RESPONSE TO JEFF: There is a second delay on the sound to video, listen to the takedowns.

I almost skipped the judges decision to get a coke because there wasn’t any point in watching it. Hammill threw him around like a rag doll and got the better of most of the standup. Judging by the boatload of posts about this, I’m not the only one who thinks that was a terrible judges call. There is clearly some other agenda.

Well as a big UFC fan all i gotta say is screw Micheal Bisping and f*ck england FOR accepting that sh*t for a win when u know that English prick lost. Thats f*cking bullshit, before the match i was a big bisping fan, i did not really think Hamil had alot to offer besides good takedowns or submission. But when i got into that fight, boy was i wrong. His punches were solid and dead on, 2 seconds in the round i was rooting for Matt. Because in the MMA i like to see the best fighter win, and in this case that did not happen
WTF Dana White…

MATT HAMIL WAS ROBBED!
I HAD MONEY ON BISPING AND GOT PAID BUT HAMIL WON AND WAS DOMINATING THE WHOLE FIGHT SOOOOOOOOOO MUCH I SWORE I WAS GOIN TO LOSE $$$. BS

Matt Hamill certainly looked a lot stronger during their exhanges and Matt took him to the canvas several times but he just couldn’t finish the job off, Bisping was able to get up every time! The judges have to score on the number of punches landed and Bisping landed more, so technically they had to award the win to Bisping, because Matt couldn’t finish it any other way – Controversial, but technically the right decision.

you all seem to think this was biased or fixed??! (if you think its fixed you shud disappear from this sport and never watch again because your a moron) and those who say it is bias, erm….. how many of you are american?

Hamill should have won by unanimous decision. In response to the people saying: “well bisbing landed more strikes” that would be enough to win in boxing but UFC is supposed to be judged based on effective striking, grappling, aggression, and octagon control. While they do count strikes landed it is not the only factor. Boxing judges have no place scoring MMA bouts.

I just watched the fight. I’d heard about all the contro. but didn’t give it much credance, figuring that some fans were just mad about their fav fighter losing. After watching the fight, though, I have to say that it was UTTER CRAP!!! Hamill dominated every round except for 3 (which he STILL won!), and CLEARLY WON that fight! And to think that I was once a Bisping fan… where is the honour?! He should have owned up that he lost and raised Matt’s hand himself.

Hamill all the way. Both of us here saw it that way. We were dumb-founded by the decision. We choose to ignore the judges decision, and go with what we saw. Hamill won.

Matt Hamill was robbed plain and simple.

This is F*CKING Bullshit! Hamill won that fight and was ROBBED!

Dana White is a f+cking joke for letting this happen

Hmmm Big Big fan of bisping but watching that i would of said hamill shoud of took it. Maybe Hamill got deducted points from the wild punching that didnt connect? The video isnt clear enough. Ile comment properly when i see the fight on tv.

Assuming this is worthy of debate (which it isn’t), according to UFC rules, rounds are judged on a 10-point must system based on: (1) effective striking or grappling; (2) aggression; and, (3) octagon control. Hamill clearly was the agressor in all three fights (as Bisping ran the entire fight), and probably showed greater octagon control because of it. Hamill was never taken down and took down Bisping many times. The only way you give Bisping any points here was that he did stand up pretty quickly after being taken down almost every time as Hamill, for whatever reason, coulnd’t hold him down. As such, Hamill gets the nod on effective grappling for all three rounds. That leaves effective striking as the only way you give Bisping the points to beat Hamill. The UFC doesn’t count how many times the white part of a glove hits and gives points for each hit whether or not it does damage. Instead, the UFC judging is based on “effective striking.” All one has to do is look at Bisping’s face to know who was the more effective striker. However, I could accept the theory that Bisping was the more effective striker in the third and final round only. That means at best, an argument could be made to give Bisping the third round but certainly would be open to argument otherwise because of agression, octagon control, and grappling favoring Hamill.

But as I stated above, the question isn’t whether Hamill or Bisping won. Hamill clearly won. The question is whether or not the decision was fixed. I’ll leave it to the fans to decide for themselves, but I certainly think Dana White needs to address this publicly. If he doesn’t, I’m not sure I’ll shell out PPV money as easily in the future.

If I wanted to see this kind of decision, I’d watch boxing. That decision smells bad.

What a joke. Bisping is a piece of garbage who has no respect for anyone. Dana White can fing blow me. Cro Cop had no time to prepare for cage fighting. They say theres no tune up fights for pride guys. What about Sho Gun fighting Forrest Griffin? hahahah are you f ing kidding me. Thats not a tune up?

“Striking, Grappling, Aggression, and Octagon Control”. How the hell did Bisping win any of those in the first two rounds? In the third round Striking was about even, but the other 3 definetely went to Matt. Matt stalked Bisping around the octagon, was usually the one to engage first, and held him down from the 3:00 mark to 2:04 and then again from 1:47 to 0:30. That’s just about 1/2 the round. Bisping did well on bottom, but not as well as Hamill did on top. Unless every other second of the round was dominated by Bisping, Hamill should have won the round. All this is academic anyway since the first two rounds were dominated by Hamill. Maybe this wasn’t home field advantage, but I don’t know how anyone can think this was the right decision. I know Dana White reads the blogs, so I hope he listens to his base and sets up a rematch soon. Until then I’m not paying for another UFC or watching their show.

What a load of dog crap. I like Bisping, and I like Hamill, but for God’s sake, man.

The third round was kinda tough to call, but I would probably give it to Bisping. The first round was easily Hamill, and the second round was Hamill, with no real question.

Was this fight rigged?I doubt it. But did the judges show a bias, possibly because of the venue? Most definitely.

I will say, props to you Brits who are Bisping fans but credit Hamill for the win. True sportsmanship.

Oh, and let’s not get some stupid yanks/British argument. Both countries have some awesome people, and both have some big douchebag/wankers. Just like any other country.

i lost respect for the ufc after this decision.
i also noticed how bisping celebrated before he was even declared the winner. this simply has to be a fixed fight, no way bisping won. disgusting.

someone must’ve bought out the judges. This stinks just like the figure skating judge that was bought out back in the olympics a few years back, i would be surprised if its the same dude. One judge marked it right, all three rounds to Hamill, seems like he was the only one with 20/20 vision. Bisping did little to no damage to Hamill, the counter punches didn’t phase him at all. Anyone can land p**** punches, doesn’t mean that they should count. Its not about how many punches land in my opinion, its about how they take it. Hamill took them well and bisping didn’t.

MATT HAMMIL clearly won……….Mr Dana u should be ashamed of ureself for bring teh ufc down to boxing’s level….i hope u dont bring it down to that level…..i was totaly disgusted by what happened…..if Rashad and Tito can get a rematch so can MATT HAMILL……Zuffa u guys are becoming like the old Pride FC and will be riggin matches……PRIDE FC WILL NEVER DIE!!!!

What a disappointment, on many levels!

First- The UFC as an organization-some of the posting above on building the English fan base really hit it right on the head. I’m not sure if the UFC rigs fights (sure seams that way now) if not then maybe the judges should have a better understanding of the sport. I could go on but the main point is that the UFC has failed here.

Second-Bisping’s sportsmanship-I’m sure Bisping cannot feel good about that win. Usually after a win you build some confidence…well if Bisping builds any from that win He’s gonna have a huge rude awakening. One of the greatest aspects of the UFC is that there was some honor, respect and integrity in their athletes and it is a huge turnoff when you see athletes with an attitude like Michael Bisping.

Well I still love the UFC, but like I wrote at the start, big disappointment.

PLEASE BOYCOTT THIS NEXT PPV, SEND DANA OUR MESSAGE.
“HE OWES MATT ALOT” AND US FANS, BISPING IS A LOSER LIKE HIS PAL DANA WHITE

It was so incredibly obvious that Matt won. I couldn’t help but stare in disgust as the judges handed the fight to Bisping. What a joke! I agree with all of the previous statements here that Dana White should do something about this. At least have a rematch with these two. This was the biggest blunder I’ve ever seen on the UFC and I think Mr. White will realize it. When the match began I didn’t care who was going to win or lose… I just wanted to see a good clean fight. Well it was a good fight alright… but the outcome was just plain sickening. Michael Bisping is a pathetic wanker for acting like he actually deserved that decision. If he were a real man he would’ve said right then and there that Matt Hamill won the match. I’ve lost all respect for him. His record is 14-1 in my mind. Hamill is the one who is undefeated.

I have been a huge fan of the UFC since the early days. I’m talking way back when there was no wieght class to speak of and you may have had to fight multiple times in a short time to take the crown. I’m in the U.S military and once lived in London for over 10 years. UFC 75 seemed like a good chance to see a live event and catch up with some old friends (or “mates” as they say in the UK).

I have to say I was startled and upset at the Bisping result. As an American, I felt compelled to root for Matt, but I like Bisping and was certain Bisping would knock him out. Yet as the fight played out in front of me, I found it impossible to give any round to Bisping. Yes, the second round might have been close, but Matt still did all the stalking and took Bisping down whenever he wanted. Even so, in a close round where one guys spends all his time being the agressor and taking the other down, how does he lose the round? This is the UFC, not boxing. You are not supposed to win on the amount of punched thrown alone. Especially when those punches keep hitting your opponents gaurd while you’re being forced back.

Needless to say, when the fight ended I was stunned that Bisping had won. One thing about the Brits, they may be passionate sportsman when it comes to thier atheletes, but they will certainly cry foul when something smells funny. I was surrounded by british fans who booed Matt relentlessly, but when the fight ended, every one of them turned to me and asked how the heck Bisping had won. Everywhere I went in the arena the responses were the same. NOT ONE PERSON FELT BISPING HAD WON.

I was further startled to find that all of the “professional” websites I visited seemed to feel Bisping had “edged it”. There are those who will argue that since I’m not a professional I couldn’t see it correctly. Well, I’ve participated in combative sports (wrestling, judo, boxing) and the martial arts all my life and what I saw couldn’t possibly have been seen any other way. I wish I hadn’t gone to the see the event live now. Then it would have been possible for me to believe “the camera just didn’t catch everything, that’s how bisping won”. Now I just feel that MMA, at least in the UFC, is going the same way as boxing.

The better man on the night doesn’t always win, especially if the other man is more popular.

Absolute bullshit. Hamill first 2 Rounds clearly…and I guess maybe…the 3rd to Bisping.I have been watching UFC fights since the Gracie days, and this really put a bad taste in my mouth. Politics and the almighty $$$ at its finest.Not only did this tarnish Hamill’s perfect record unjustly, but then Bisping who I liked previously to this fight, runs his mediocre cock-sucker, trash talking a deaf kid(who clearly beat his ass!).He is a piece of sh*t in my eyes eternally now.-Watch this video with the sound off so you see it with your eyes and don’t hear the ewws! and ahhs! from the biased crowd when Bisping mostly hits nothing but arms, as his punches are mostly blocked through most of the fight.

Something needs to be done about the scoring system,judges, or where venues are held If this is any evidence of things to come.

BOYCOTT THE NEXT UFC EVENT in two weeks!!!

The only way to stop this crap is to vote with your money. I invited over 5 MMA fans to watch the fights at my house and every single one of us jumped out of our seats in amazement when they gave Bisping the win. We were all sick to our stomachs over decision.

I’ve purchased the last 10-12 UFC PPV’s, but there is not chance in hell I will pay for the upcoming event unless Dana White comes out and apologizes to the fans and to Matt Hamill.

I can’t wait until Bisping faces a top 5-6 ranked light heavywait so we can watch his face get pummelled into a bloody mess after his post fight comments. However, I won’t be paying to watch it, will have to watch the replay if it costs money.

After reading a few of the posts that were in favor or Bisping, I had to go back and watch the replay one more time to make sure.

It only served to infuriate me further. The more I watch the more pissed off I get and I don’t even care about either of these fighters. I think the one judge that scored it 30-27 was right because Bisping never landed a single solid punch, a single kick or had a single take down in the entire fight.

How could Bisping have one any round when he had zero offense the entire fight. Unless you consider punches into the arms of Hamill a point it just does not make sense. It seemed like Bisping spend half the 3rd round on his back.

This is completely disgusting…

I will not only boycott the next UFC PPV, but I’m boycotting any UFC sponsor of this event until Dana White’s apology. I’m sure he will have a rematch on some future PPV and make us try and pay….

but please, don’t give these a******* another single dime until they recognize what happened puclicly.

matt won the match, the only reason they gave it to the other guy was because he was from england, home town of that weak ass fighter. Matt was the winner without a doubt

Reading through these posts, I see 2 things.

People bashing England, and acting like they know it all, yet saying Dana White needs to do this, and needs to do that, when he isn’t even the president of the UFC in the UK, it is a man called Marshall Zelaznik.

I agree that fight was an iffy decision, but if you are going to act like you know it all, at least don’t make yourself look a complete fool by not even knowing who the president is.

I wanted Bisping to win, I am an fan of his, But clearly he did not win the fight. If there is no rematch or if Dana doesn’t say anything, then the UFC will lose a lot of its credibility.

I agree with the judges totally. Look at who had control in the fight and then look at how it turned. ROUND 1- Hamill. Why? That right hand. All those games on the ground didn’t do sh*t to bisping tho, and for the last half of the Fight Bisping just toys with Hamill who just seems too scared to f*ck with him anymore. That’s just how I see it, but imo it isn’t the most controversial fight I’ve seen and far from the best.

the judge is full of SH *T i watch whole 3 round i was jump support matthamill that i knew he wilkl win but result gave to micheal bisping make me F*** whyyyy? it not make any sense. two of judge choose micheal bisping win two round. other one judge choose matt hamill win whole 3 round so 2 judge is damn fear to get their head skull hole after ufc fight over walk out. someone will shotgun their head thru that my guess that s why judge gave 2 micheal bisping. i reawlly want rematch and free live on spike matthamill vs micheal bisping at USA HOMEEE that way judge can be safe LOL…. matt hamill will kick micheal bisping s asssss for sure and finish him before 3 round. i feel matt hamill not lose at alllll! it full of sh*t that decision

I was there, most of british fans after the fight were in disbelief that Bizpine won and cheered Mat on accordingly. Majority of fans did not agree walking home on the train with decision and for me left a very sour taste on the UFC and the night out. If this is a fix big shame to UFC and Dana to think the British fans are that shallow you have got us very wrong. UFC should make a statement on this fight to ensure UFC credibility

I also want to add, that on close examination of the video up there, I gave it to Bisping.

The 1st round, I give to Hamill, but personally I would give it a 9-8 round to Hamill because he had Bisping dazed and did nothing for over a minute, which usually would have lost him the round, but he did enough after that to clinch it, but only by 1 point, and I took a point away for notfinishing his dazed opponent.

The second round was an easy 10-8 round for Bisping, once again, Hamill, although advancing the majority of the time, was doing absolutely nothing with his shots, he wasn’t even hitting Bispings guard, and the few takedowns he had, he did nothing with, Bisping was hitting Hamills guard, he was dodging, weaving, and he completely controlled the pace of the fight, even though he was backing off, he still had the upper hand for a 2 point margin.

The final round was close, so I have scored it 10-10 making the winner by 29-27 Michael Bisping, but when if Bisping lost the final round, it would still be 29-28 because it was that close.

I hope that ties up any loose ends you lot might have

Bisping won the fight fair and square

What a joke. I am neither American or English .. I am Canadian and this whole discussion has nothing to do with nationality. It was very clear (even to the laymen) that Mat Hamill won that fight and dominated this jerkoff Bisping. Bisping showed no class by his comments after teh fight and Hamill showed nothing but class! Way to go Mat , with some more training you just may be good enough one day to be a top contender. As far as Bisping goes, I doubt he will ever be cheered again , even by his own people. Shows you how , as a fighter, demonstrating a little humbleness can go a long way.. take GSP for example… now there is a fighter with class, respects all and never makes excuses .. and not to mention Couture and the likes of him… This judging was a joke! FU England!

I am a huge Bisping, UFC and TUF fan and was never really impressed with Hamill’s stand up, but I thought for this fight he totally dominated. Bisping managed to bring it back a little bit in the third round, but not enough to win the round. I hated the idea of Bisping losing, but he clearly did, and this has really dented my appreciation for the UFC. If they fix fights, it totally takes away from the whole sport and its athletes, and will very quickly lose its appeal to me.

Shame on you Mr White.

Nothing short of overturning this decision will satisfy me. I am neither a Bisping or Hamill fan merely a UFC fan. I started watching UFC because I got tired of seeing fake male soup operas (WWE or whatever it is now). This has me seriously questioning the integrity of the UFC. I have seen decisions that I didn’t completely agree with before but I could always admit that it could have went either way. This one was in no way close enough to go either way.

Give Matt Hamill the respect he EARNED in that fight, not to mention the respect the fans deserve.

On another note could you believe the remarks Bisping made after the fight. How could he be proud of that fight? It showed what a bad sport/person he is.

I am on board with the boycott not only will I not buy an PPV event hosted by the UFC , I will not support any sponsors of the UFC as well. We as fans have power by boycotting and we might as well hit them where it hurts the wallet.

Face it … There is no Honesty left in Professional Sports
Today and The Bisping – Hamill Fight is a Perfect Example.

Not only Did The Judges and The UFC Rob Matt Hamill But also
the Fans. Just Think of how much money was Lost on that Fight.
and it was clearly obvious that Hamill Won and if you disagree
you must of been watching another Fight.

It was Not even Close. Hamill Destroyed Bisping.

The Corruption and Fight Fixing Problem is 10 Times a Bigger
Public Relations Problem for The UFC Than Steroids will ever
Be. I Dont Know about You Guys But No More Support For The UFC will ever Come out of My Mouth. What a Disgrace.

I think the judges were afraid that they would not make it out of that arena if they called it fairly. I thought for sure that Bisping would destroy Hamill. However, how can you run from a guy for fifteen minutes, make everyone in the arena hold their breath when you are taken down because they know you are about to tap out, and still win a fight? I am a relatively new fan. Correction, I was a relatively new fan. This one hurts.

Last time I checked, this was a FIGHT. Not some show where we see if the mouse gets away from the cat. This deserves a rematch with Dana White in attendance.

It is the same people giving it to Hamill that would have been wondering why Dana White didn’t make a speech.

People who don’t have a clue what they are talking about, British, American, or even Jamazican, if you know what you are talking about, you would score it in Bispings favour.

I know your problem, I myself thought “somethings wrong here” when I first saw it, but I watched it again, and Bisping definitely won fair and square

Well, looks like a I need a new t.v. because the old one is out on the roadside with a beer bottle stuck in it. Thanks UFC, for the “free” screw job you gave Hammill and UFC fans that have made your wallet fat. Do us a favor and keep boxing’s corruption out of the MMA world. Anyone that thought that Bisping won even 2 of those 3 rounds is crazy. Hammill was a class act and Bisping was a dick. And I was a Bisping fan.

on another note for blakester, it is kinda rich talking about Bisping having no class, and going on about fighters that do, and then ending your post with “FU England”

Quit preaching and show a little class yourself you tool

Or maybe you forget who actually controls Canada.

The decision was horrible. Hamill dominated the first two rounds and at round 3 was pretty even. Bring Hamill back; Bisping looked awful.

Bisping threw punches, but they all hit Matts hands. I swear Bisping reacted before his name was called. I cannot wait ’til that guy has to fight in the U.S. again.

What a joke… shame on the UFC. And talk about poor sportsmanship on Bisbings behalf… I was completely disgusted. Matt Hamill on the other hand….what a gentleman and great show of class. This sport needs more guys like him.

i love MMA but after watching that fight in witch i did not care who wone i was outraged with the fact that matt hamlin did not win .
Were the juges watching a nuther fight. P.S i do not wont this sport to turn into boxing were if you leve it up to the juges the only way you can beat the champ or favert fighter is to knock him out

if i see this happen again i will quit watching a sport that i love Just as i did with boxing

This fight was so blatantly rigged. His hometown fans had a lot of $$ riding on him. I guarantee those two judges were bought.

you are lost in insanity!!!!!!
first of all you cannot score a round with 9 points,
it has to be 10 points the opponent will get 9 or less if you assign a round.

Not only did Hamill dominate the fight.
He ridiculed Bispsing(running away like a sissy)
All of Bispings punches and combinations were in effective except 2 in the whole fight.
Hamill tossed,slammed,pinned and elbowed Bisbing several times.
Bisping was not only a sissy in the fight but was a puff after the fight to say he outboxed Hamill when he was being rocked with Hamill’s jabs (if you watched the fight so many times, you can maybe watch it one more time and see how Bisping was responding to those jabs.
Before the fight I favored Bisping and would have honestly bet money on him.
Hamill looked awsome, he has some raw power, it was like the cat and the mouse, obviously we all know who the mouse was.

Matt Hamill was Robbed Again.
He clearly won the fight at UFC 75.
And
He was the best 205 fighter on The Ultimate Fighter 3.
It’s Not Right!

[QUOTE]People bashing England, and acting like they know it all, yet saying Dana White needs to do this, and needs to do that, when he isn’t even the president of the UFC in the UK, it is a man called Marshall Zelaznik.[/QUOTE]

Dana White is the most known figure behind the UFC…most people in north America have no clue who the other guy is and perception is reality.
UFC has big following in North America and Dana White should be issuing a statement of some sorts….
If i were Dana White and i was innocent in this matter, i would be calling a press conference and try to distance myself from the other clown as much as possible….the fact that Dana is silent on this issue tells me, that he was in on it….the judges who robbed Hammil should go back to figure-skating, where this sort of s*** is tolerated…

well well…..i dont watch ufc very often til i heard about matt hamill….he was soo awesome and he won the entire rounds but..what do u think, dana white? u F***ing BS!!! i thanks that i didnt bet or pay the ppv at all…but would like a rematch and fight at our usa….michael bining is full of s*** and i believe that he already knew that he gonna win anyways…f**king bullshit!!!!

i give matt hamill the biggest winner of all!!!

Come on folks… there is no way Bisping even came close. Even if the third round was his (and it was super close at that), the first two rounds definately go to Hamill. Even the fans at the fight knew that, you could definately notice the change in the fans demeanor once the winner was announced… I don’t dislike Bisping or particularly cheer for Hamill (as I didn’t watch the show) but come on people. Fair is fair. Are we going to have to start comparing UFC to the WWE???

Bisping wasnt in his home town, He was in London, not Manchester

Im sorry but if you don’t think Hammil wins the first two rounds OUTRIGHT your clinicaly insane.

I BARELY gave Bisping the 3rd round… Bisping in the 3rd round did land punches and a few nice kicks off-setting Matt’s takedowns…

Still the first two rounds combined 5 takedowns… and if u guys read my other post about scoring 10-8 rounds.. I give merit to not only damage delt after takedown, but advancing positions… Matt consistently went into guard, half guard, side control and got Bisping’s back and contrary to what u guys think he DID THROW PUNCHES GNP was a bit weak but still.

I do not buy the arguement that oh… Matt took Bisping down but didn’t do damage arguement… well Koscheck took down Diego at the end of the first and didn’t do damage….. yet he got the round. Based on what…….says JOE ROGAN…… GREAT STRATEGY WITH THE TAKEDOWN AT THE END OF THE ROUND……

So how can u justify winning a fight when you have been taken down 7 times, have not imposed your will in the clinch AT ALL and really no SUB tries?

There is NO arguement for Bisping winning this fight… later on I am going to do a detailed breakdown of each round.

But I always like to keep it simple…… Just look to Rogan and that other announcer……

Hammil dominating round 1… Quote: WHAT A ROUND BY HAMMIL.
Hammil dominating round 2… Quote: HE WAS JUST AS DOMINANT AS ROUND 1

If u must give rnd 3 to Bisping.. makes no difference.

First time a decision ever SHOCKED me. I felt bisping won the third round, but he so did not win the fight. The first round was damn near a 10-8 round for hamill and the 2nd round was a 10-9 for hamill. What a disgrace.

I’ve noticed that our American brethren south of the border do get a tad bitchy when their guy does not win. Being Canadian, let me offer up an unbiased point of view.

I’ve always been a Bisping fan. When I first saw the fight, I was really surprised that he won the decision (…just like everyone else) but after watching the fight a second and third time I can see how the judges came to their decision. While Hamills shots did more damage, he did not throw nearly enough of them. Bisping landed WAY more punches, albeit much weaker jabs. Nevertheless, he did land more punches. No question whatsoever here. When Hamil took Bisping down, Bisping seemed to be the busier man. He was throwing from the bottom, had more scrambles, and went for a few submissions. He stuffed a couple of takedowns. I can totally see how had more points although it would have been very close.

All that being said; should Bisping have won? I wish I could say yes. Hamil definitely inflicted more damage, although at the end of the fights his eyes were a bit swollen and he also had a few cuts too. Undoubtedly Hamil absorbed the damage much better then Bisping did. Personally, I would have to give that fight to Hamil, but with the scoring system they have now I can totally understand why he lost. I UNDERSTAND, but do not agree.

I’m also sad to say that Bisping did show a huge lack of class with his post fight speech. I don’t see how he can deny that it was VERY close; even he looked bewildered with the decision for a moment or two. In my eyes, Bisping lost, and I lost some respect for the guy too. One other thing that does bother me is that American fans whine WAY TOO MUCH when one of their guys do not win. Right now there are a plenty of Americans saying how disrespectful Bisping is, yet most of these people are the same fans that chant “USA! USA!” and boo anyone who is not American. Heh. Also very disrespectful IMO. Everyone just needs to grow up and get some class, and the UFC needs a better scorings system.

TO SAY ANYMORE ABOUT THE FIGHT IS TO STATE THE OBVIOUS..I TRAIN IN MMA AND BEFORE MIXED TRAINED IN BOXING, TAE KWON DO AND MUAY TAE..HAMIL WON THIS FIGHT HANDS DOWN..TOOK BISPING DOWN AT WILL EVEN AS BISPING RAN…TO OPEN THE BRITISH MARKET, DANA WHITE HAD TO GIVE THEM A CHAMPION EVEN A FALSE ONE….BISPING WON THE TV SERIES AFTER WHINING ABOUT MATT GOING TO STRONG THEN WHEN MATT TONED IT DOWN BISPING WENT FULL SPEED AND TORQUED HAMILS SHOULDER RENDERING HIM HALF STRENGTH FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SERIES…BISPING HAS FOUGHT NO ONE OF CONSEQUENCE…NOW THERE ARE NO MORE NOBODIES SO ROGAN AND GOLDBERG START YELLING ABOUT HOW BISPING SHOULD GO DOWN TO 185..SURE THEY ARE BISPING CANT FIGHT ANYONE OF CONSEQUENCE AT 205 HE WOULD BE ANNIHILATED..BUT BEWARE OF DANA WHITE..HE IS GOING TO OFFER A REMATCH AT A PRICE..A HIGH ONE. DANA WHITE HAS GONE DON KING…A CON MAN WHO STOLE FROM A GREAT CLASSY KID WHO HAS OVERCOME A MAJOR HANDICAP….MATT YOU ARE A TERRIFIC YOUNG MAN…AND BISPING IF YOU READ THIS, YOU ARE A DETRIMENT TO THE SPORT..YOU ARE WITHOUT STYLE, CLASS OR ABILITY…IN SHORT YOU ARE A SHAM WHO HAPPENED TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME…IN SHORT YOU ARE A PUNK….

I was upset that Hamill lost the decision. He was obviously the more aggressive opponent and had Bisping on the run the entire fight. You could even see how nervous Bisping was the entire fight… not nearly as calm and collected as he is in other fights. Bisping knew Matt would dominate him from his experience on TUF. The only problem with Matt is that he needs to learn some submissions because he could have certainly ended the fight in the first round. He shouldn’t leave it to the judges. Especially since all the other brits seemed to lose that night. I was a Bisping fan before this fight… but not anymore. I would like to see Houston Alexander beat Bisping’s face in.

Hamill won the fight, and I am very depressed by the out come. I liked both fighters and wouldnt mind Bisping winning, but I expected an amount of fairness to be involved.

i have to admit the first round hamill had bisping but i personnally think bisping won the other two – close for sure, but i think he had it

I think Matt beat bisbing standing up to show he had more in him than just superior wrestling, Matt could have dominated
totally if he wanted to stick with his wrestling.

What a load of s***. Matt Hamill clearly dominated the entire fight from the opening bell. Dana White should be ashamed of this fight. Are the fights rigged it sure does seem that way. The Cro Cop vs Kongo fight was probably rigged also. Did Cro Cop throw the fight because he would probably destroy Kongo. Looks like the UFC is turning into the WWE how disappointing for the fans. Dana White better overturn that decision if he wants to keep his fan base….

ufc. They should be ashamed of there selves for this. Matt smoked Bisbing. I can not wait for the rematch.

After watching the fight about 5 times, I would like point out a few things that people are argueing about or stating as obvious decisions! When watching the fight live, and listening to comments on my cell phone from 2 of my friends who attended the event, my original opinion was that matt hamill was the unanimous winner, but after watching the fight again and again, I have changed my opinion, not to bispings side, but to how the fight was scored! Hamill won the first round period and I say bisping was most effective and winner in the 3rd round! But the second round is tough! Hamill shooted some awesome takedowns but never took them near submissions or ground and pound, and bispings stand up fight and ability to take strikes as a lighter competitor and escape hamills hold was impressive! So my opinion, 3 judges scored the decision, and it was not unanimous which proved that this fight and judges were not biased or paid off, but acted upon what they saw and the fact that the judges scores where not unanimous but very different, show that the choice of 3 compared to 1 has stirred up everyones opinions! In my opinion there was 1 point in this bout to decide the winner and 1 point is a tough one to call over 3 rounds, so maybe dana white could come out of this decision unblemished by revising and improving the judging procedure if it has been questioned, and taking this sport onwards and upwards! No sport will be without controversy, but I feel all the other bouts had the correct winners, and even though this match has stirred up so much opinion, let it live and a rematch would no doubt help, to keep your faith in this sport!

Absolute joke of a decison. you can sense both commentators doing their upmost to complement bisping in the third round although he was purely dominated by Hamill. A biased, if not, financial decison.

Of course Bisping had no say in the biased judging that stole the decision from his opponent and unfairly handed it to him, but the next time he is the beneficiary of an act of grand larceny, he might at least have the good grace to shut his mouth afterwards.
The difference between Bisping’s post-fight antics and the dignified behavior of his valiant opponent can be summed up in a single word: class. I know Bisping has no concept of what that word means, so perhaps he could have someone look it up for him.

The scoring system is based on aggression, grappling, and octagon control.

Not going after a dazed opponent is not being the aggressor, pure and simple.

Why do you think that the referees stand fighters up or give them a warning when they aren’t being busy enough?

The fact is, Hamill barely landed a shot in the 2nd round, and in the 1st round, he had Bisping dazed, and did nothing about it.

I am not really a fan of Bisping to be honest, I think he is a cocky tw*t but although he was backing up the entire first and second round, he did more to impress me, and obviously the judges thought the same.

Say what you like about the decision, but the fact is, Hamill lost points by not being aggresive enough when Bisping was dazed and tired, he was swinging and missing the entire second round, and all in all, although he appeared to dominate, the scoring system is in place for a reason, and that reason is so people have to stay busy.

He could have ended it in the 1st round, but wasted over a minute letting Bisping get his breath back, usually that would have immediately lost him the round, but he managed to pull it back in the last minute or so.

It is all well and good saying “I have fought in MMA for 7 years” but I doubt you can prove it.

whether or not he won, michael bispings words after the fight to joe rogan made me sick to my stomach. how can he even consider telling hamill to go back to wrestling when he was clearly outboxed for a greater half of 15 minutes and was taken down at will. Bisping definetly lost a fan tonight

as for the fight, this is one of the WORSE decisions ive ever seen ranking up there with bonnar v. jardine and griffin v. guida. its funny how fighters will often win the close decisions when they are popular and in favour with the ufc. hamill clearly won the first two rounds and although bisping might have squeaked the third round he did little damage and most of his punches were blocked by hamills arms who was in a posistion to counter. if anything this proves the flaws of the scoring system, which allows a fighter to come out the fight with a messed up face and win due to “octagon control”.

What a joke. As a UK UFC fan I am completely embarrassed by this ‘hometown’ decision. You just can’t make a case for Bisping winning this fight. Much more of this and the UFC will start to quickly lose the credibility it so badly craves. Who took the backhanders then Dana?

Ridiculous. Hamill clearly won…Bisping is mediocre, he never really beat ANYBODY decent except for Sinosic. He was running the ENTIRE fight, The UFC tries to push him because he won TUF. Big deal…PLEASE, let him fight Griffin, Lambert, Jardine, anybody good….OMG Houston Alexander would SMASH him in the first round. SMASH. Rashad Evans too. I NEVER want to see those JUDGES up there again. One thing’s for sure, the public ain’t backing a Bisping fight anytime soon.

Hamill was the aggressor throughout and took Bisping down at will. This was the single worst decision I’ve seen since UFC 1, including Pride. The UFC has lost my trust.

I am such a big UFC fan… I have only been into it for a year or so but it is growing day by day.

This is the first fight i have been truely shocked at the result. How can one ref score 30-27 and the other 2 29-28 in the opposite direction?

UFC needs to right this or they just lost one of many fans. Matt Hamill was the winner hands down, it wasn’t even close except for that 3rd round.

I was psyched for the new Ultimate fighter show, I don’t know if i’ll bother with this bull$@!$ going on.

One of the things that I have always said about mixed martial arts is that unlike almost every other sports organization on earth, the two biggest outfits (UFC and Pride) have integrity. I am beginning to question the UFC now. In the past year I have seen several questionable decisions and the rate of such seems to be increasing. I surely hope that in another year or two I am not abandoning MMA like I did the NFL.

As far as this fight is concerned, round one is a no-brainer. It was all Hamill. The second round consisted of Bisping running around and landing nothing, unless you count two decent shots in the first thirty seconds and one in the last twenty. For the ENTIRETY OF THE REST OF THE ROUND he fled, was not the aggressor, and suffered two takedowns, scoring none for himself. If Bisping won this fight then we are now rewarding people for running and refusing to engage. He executed exactly nothing in round two, except for two half-hearted attempts at flurries, at the beginning and at the end of the round. He never escaped Hamill’s control but was, instead, let up so that he could spend some more time running away.

Bisping is nothing more than a pretty boy, token Brit and I have yet to be impressed with even ten seconds of his fighting.

One does not even need to discuss the third round, as the first two were each, EASILY, Hamill’s and a 10-8 round for Bisping in round 3 would have meant a draw.

Round 3 was, in fact, close which after the first two, is meaningless. If the UFC doesn’t engage in a major shake up over these judges, then it should be ashamed of itself.

Well, what’s it gonna be, Mr. White?

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Whats next?! I can now see Roger Huerta gets pounded on for 3 rounds and wins a unanimous decision. F*** the UFC and their built up pretty boys

Hamill had to fight Bispings fight because he couldnt keep him down. Hamill had a good stand up game but they both sucked ass they played patie cake and the judges took score. this fight was a joke. the first fight was a fight kick a$$ till he sees stars and then make him see black. lights out. dvr is the best way to see the fight. the video at the top sucks.

lostinsanity and Dave are some whiny ass brits probably computer geeks with coke bottle glasses. Dana White is the one who hired Marshall Zelaznik and he could fire him if he wants to. Dana White calls all the shots I hate to disappoint you.He could pull the plug on the UK. Matt Hamill was way more aggressive from the opening bell Bisping ran in circles away from Matt the entire time watch the tape. TOTAL DOMINATION

I honestly think Dana White paid off the two judges that scored it 29-28 Bisping. One of the judges scored the fight 30-27 Hamill; he’s the one judge who wasn’t in on it. This seems far-fetched, but it also makes perfect sense. The fight was rigged so that the only way Bisping was gonna lose is if Hamill knocked his ass out. What better opportunity for the UFC to suck in some international fans than by letting their undefeated, home-town, boy win?!

I am completely disgusted by this fight and think it’s a disgrace to Dana White and the UFC, not to mention a slap in the face to all the UFC fighters and true UFC/MMA fans.
This makes me want to quit watching UFC. I will never pay $$ to watch another UFC event. Shame on you Dana White for screwing over your loyal fans in order to grow your empire. You may have gained some U.K. fans from this, but you lost just as many or more back home. Nice work…

I scored it 2 rounds to 1 Bisping. Hamill was swinging wild, Bisping landed punches…. and that “he started celebrating before the announcement” crap… the audio is slow, check out the interview. You’ll see what I mean. Good decision.

Pathetic! Hamill clearly dominated the fight. Bisping ran away the entire fight and was taken down at will. UFC just lost alot of credibility!

VERY SHOCKED ON THE OUTCOME OF THE FIGHT, BUT IT’S GOOD TO SEE ALL THE REACTIONS TO IT. MATT DEF WON THE FIGHT I DON’T SEE HOW YOU COULD GIVE ANY ROUND TO BISPING, HE HAD NO TAKE-DOWNS NO SUBMISSION ATTEMPTS, NO PUNCHES THAT HAD ANY EFFECT.
MATT WAS DEF MORE AGGRESIVE AND HURT BISPING IN ROUND WON, ROUNDS 2 AND 2 WERE SIMILIAR TO EACHOTHER BEING THEY EXCHANGED SOME HITS MATT’S CAUSED MORE DAMAGE, BUT MATT HAD ALL THE TAKE-DOWNS IN THOSE 2 ROUNDS, YES BISPING DID GET UP, BUT MATT LET HIM UP MOST OF THE TIME. I WAS TOLD THE 2 JUDGES THAT SCORED IT FOR BISPING WERE AMERICANS AND THE WON THAT SCORED IT FOR MATT WAS THE UK. MAKES YOU WONDER IF IT IS ALL ABOUT MARKETING AND s***, IF THERE BISPING DIDN’T WIN WOULD LONDON NOT WANT TO SEE THE UFC ANYMORE? FROM WHAT I HEAR IS THAT ALL THE BISPING FANS HERE IN THE US AND OVER THERE IN LONDON ALL THINK MATT WON, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE JUDGES HAVE TO SAY AND EXPLAIN HOW THEY SEEN THE FIGHT. FUNNY ON THE HIGHLIGHT REEL FOR BISPING AT THE END OF THE FIGHT, HIS HIGHLIGHT WWAS MATT LETTING HIM UP AFTER A TAKE-DOWN AND BLOCKING A TAKEDOWM FUNNY s***, THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING!!!!

Hammill kicked his ass! The UFC should be ashamed. This was clearly Matt’s fight – Bisping was either backing up or laying on his back the whole fight. Matt took the fight to him while Mike played defense. This staged decision is what you would expect out of bull*t professional wrestling.
UFC has no balls and is guilty of either stageing the win or condoning the poor decision.

Who would have guessed that all the American fans would have been sounding off? Move on.
I give a monkeys.

I think a one fight boycott would be a wonderful shot across the bow to Dana White to get his act in order, support his fans by fixing the judging of the UFC.

Dana White’s only two comments on the travesty so far have been that he thought Matt Hamill won 2 to 1 but then later stated that, “These controversies that come up don’t mean a thing to me and they roll off my back with no problem because I know it’s all (expletive),” he said. “We’re the top dogs and every little thing we do is news and people create these wacky (expletive) conspiracies. The bottom line is, we’ve embraced regulation, we want the sport to be regulated everywhere, but I’m not going to stop putting fights in the U.K. just because they don’t have a commission.”

Dana White is so preoccupied with the criticism of his company that he’s failing to acknowledge the root of this particular situation: that the judging for MMA is quickly proving itself to be broken.

Please post this is as many other forums as you know. Please ban the UFC for one fight, UFC 76, until Dana White makes a

LOOKS LIKE NICK DIAZ WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE UFC AND IT BEING Corrupt BUT DONT BLAME THEM CUZ THE UFC EVENT WAS IN ENGLAND AND ALL THERE FIGHTERS THAT NIGHT LOST AND FOUGHT POORLY EVEN BISPING FOUGHT LIKE s*** ALL HE WAS DOING WAS THROWING LAZY COMBOS AND NOT THROWING ANY KICKS.UFC NEVER SAY THAT YOUR BETTER THEN BOXING CUZ YOU SCOOP DOWN TO THERE LEVEL U SCUMBAGS.I WANNA SEE THAT THIS GET OVERTURNED.MATT HAMIL WON THAT NIGHT AND YOU ALL KNOW IT I HOPE KARMA GET YOU REALLY GOOD U BASTARDS

Anyone who can seriously write on this fourm that Bisping won that fight is messed up. Hammill won all 3 rounds, he was the agressor, he took down Bisping atleast 6 or 7 times, Bisping threw wild punches that never landed and Matt didn’t have a scratch on him. Everyone who watched this fight saw the same as I did Matt got screwed over. Dana White has already said that there will be a rematch. And if therte is Bisping will lose his head this time.

Adam Hardy,
What’s funny is that most of us thought Bisping was going to win going into the fight. Instead he got his ass handed to him.

I’m not a fan of neither fighter but Hamill clearly destroyed bisping in the first two rounds. Bisping won round three due to lack of cardio for Matt H. I had my 73 old grandmother watch the fight who has no interest in fighting but I wanted to get an impartial voive she thought the guy from utica ny won matt hamill and she felt bad he lost and was appauled of bispings actions not giving Matt any credit.

Bisping You are a little mamas boys bitch and I hope your proud of the way you looked in front of all the younger ufc fans. You showed them how adults don’t act. As you britts would say Bisbing you are nothing but a f****** twat.. want some come get some BITCH!!!

Every single person I have talked to (even Bisping fans) agree….H A M I L L WON PERIOD!

Those comments by Bisping were shameful…we can all see who the real “WANKER” is… what a D!ck.

Hammill totally won all 3 rounds. He was pursuing and engaging the fight as Bisping backed away. Like a bitch!!! It’s soo sad that every sport now a days is set up and corrupt. I didn’t know we were now basing the winners of UFC fights on if they are fighting in their Hometown. What a load of BS and I can tell you this much, I will never watch another UFC fight or UFC show, or purchase any of their merchandise EVER again!!!! F*ck UFC, F*ck Dana White and F*ck Bisping, he’s a b*tch

I don’t know how many of the people commenting on this fight are active MMA practitioners, but I am. I’m also a huge UFC fan, although not of Michael Bisping in particular. But what I would say is that viewers should never think that Matt Hammill dominated that fight just because he kept on moving forwards again and again. You don’t gain points for just wandering into your opponent with a lazy flailing jab time after time. He showed virtually no ground skills, and his standup (although strong) was also lazy, inaccurate, and ultimately, ineffective. Bisping on the other hand showed good ground defense, escaping numerous takedowns and takedown attempts, an active guard, and his standup was crisp and accurate (although not as effective as I would have expected).

I score the fight close, REAL close, but ultimately I agree with the judges – Bisping looked the more complete fighter, and showed the ability to cause damage in more areas.

Absolutley ridiculous. The closest round was the third and Hamill still secured it with his last takedown. The first two rounds were a no-brainer for Hamill. My friends from England even argreed with me they were shocked. I lost some respect for the UFC after that decision.

Sad state of affairs for the UFC i wish this would be directly addressed… instant replay in UFC?

I am a bisping fan, and will never be again. No respect for mma or much less his country. If bisping was a REAL UFC fighter, he would renounce that win and give it to Hamill… way to take credit for a fight you didn’t win buddy! Oh, and the judges… oh the judges… I hope you all got paid really well for your decisions! you should be BANNED from UFC!!!

I scored it 29-28 all three rounds for Hamill. Was shocked with the outcome to be quite honest. But, this is a big problem with hometown favorites, not the first time it has happened, and wont be the last.

hey, what happened to my last post?

and danny, I think it is you and all the rest who don’t know anything about mixed martial arts.

Bisping did enough to win, that’s all there is to it

Oh dear. All you americans like to whinge and moan when you lose. Bisping won as he was the better man on the day, its as simple as that. A lot of you think hamill should have won as he scored more takedowns. Sure, he took bisping down several times, hamills obviously got a LOT of strength. However, strength needs to be combined with skill and stamina to get anywhere. Just simply pulling bisping to the ground and cuddling him isn’t going to win a fight. Also, bisping escaped every time, which shows a lot of skill to escape from a seasoned grappler so easily. And as for bisping saying ‘get back to wrestling’, so f****** what? Let me get this, its ok for both of them to trash talk loads before the fight, but bisping makes a light hearted comment afterwards, and everyone gets upset. Seriously, who cares. More trash talk means more hype for the rematch.

Oh and to Danny, thanks for the information. Silly me, i stand corrected. After spending years learning karate, learning kung fu for a while, a bit of aikido, some boxing in my teens and in more recent years brazilian ju jitsu, thai boxing and mma, i can indeed see that i need some lessons in ‘combat sports’. I shall go back to the bus stop and get beat up.

To be honest, i hate point decisions. The fight should be allowed to continue for a while longer, and it is frustrating to leave a decision for judges. However, if hamill had been that much better than bisping, surely he could have secured a submission, or maybe even a knockout?

matt hamill beat the s*** out of that dick

I have been watching UFC since its beginning ,,, I was outraged at the outcome of this fight and for the first time, since Dana White took over the organization, I believe the decision was financially based. Dana White is trying to expand the sport to the world and could not let the first fight overseas go to an American …. think about it. Dana White used Matt H as a guinea pig and I feel that he took advantage of him. I think Dana expected Bisping to dominate this fight and then when he didn’t he forced to make a financial decision that in the end has hurt his reputation. I will not support the validity of UFC anymore unless Dana White makes a public apology to Matt H and admits that the judges (or he) made a mistake. Also don’t be fooled about what Matt H doesn’t hear.. I have a beautiful daughter who is hearing impaired and she knows what everyone is saying. Deaf people have very accute senses and can read lips from very far away. Matt H has class and just accepted the decision, even though he knew it was wrong. Dana White should think Bisping is a disgrace to the UFC after his ridiculous comments following the fight. Bisping only proved that he is The Ultimate Loser.

I have always enjoyed UFC. I just graduated college in May and since then have become a huge fan of MMA while being unemployed and looking for a job. This Bisping win made no since to me at all. Bisping was backing up and avoiding Hamill the entire fight. The first round obviously went to Hamill. In the second round Hamill was less dominant, but I still say he was the aggressor. I could maybe see the second round being a draw, but there’s no way Bisping won it. The third round I’d say went to Bisping. Also at the end of the fight I thought Hamill looked like he was way more tired and exhausted than Bisping. I don’t really know how scoring works in the UFC. Perhaps at the end of the fight the judges said since Bisping won round 3 and looked less exhausted at the end of the fight they gave him round 2 also since it was so close. Does that kind of stuff happen? I don’t know. I don’t think Bisping won. I think they should have at least had a fourth round. Bottom line is Bisping ran away from Hamill for two rounds and had a good round three after Hamill was exhausted from chasing him.

i thought it was a close fight but the decision was probably correct… could have gone either way but with with UFC scoring Bisping took the 2nd and 3rd round although Hamill clearly took the first round and should receive plaudits for being the aggressor

Before I comment, let me tell you who I am, so you can judge for yourself if I might be biased.

I’m from Canada. I like britain more than the US. I usually cheer against the Americans.

Before this fight I was a huge Bisping fan. I liked him all the way through TUF 3. I picked him to win the show. I think he’s a much better, more well rounded fighter than Hamill. Before the match I figured Bisping would absolutely dominate the fight. I would have bet $100 against $20 that Bisping would win. And I really wanted Bisping to win.

So if I’m biased in favour of anyone, it would be Bisping.

And I still think that Bisping totally got his butt wooped.

And yes, I’ve been watching MMA for years, and have been a practicing marital artist for over 18 years.

Over 15 minutes of the fight, Bisping didn’t throw a single punch, kick, score a take down, or a near submission, which would leave me to believe he had the capacity to beat Hamil. “Dancing around” your oponent and inefectually japing his arms and shoulders is not effective striking. Wiggling free and getting back to your feet is not effective grapling. Bisping didn’t do anything useful offensively, and was never even close to causing Hamil any harm. All he managed to do was avoid getting hurt too badly himself, and he didn’t even do a very good job of that.

LOSTINSANITY AND MARK DAY MUST HAVE WATCHED THE SAME FIGHT AS ME, SO STOP MOANING YOU YANK TWATS, HAMILLS TEAM MATES IN UF 3 DIDNT LIKE HIM, SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU AND DANNY IM A FAT FOUR EYED C*** BUT I WOULD HAVE TOOK YOUR DINNER MONEY AT SCHOOL YOU NOB.

Bisping got his azz hkicked through most of the fight, I would have scored the last round even, Hamill won the first two rounds easily, he should have finished the fight with a knockout!

I want to lick Bisbing’s Jockstrap.

bisping, bisping, bisping, bisping, bisping, bisping

angrydude – thank you for your posting. i like what you have to say and how you said it.

the way i saw the fight the first time, and the additional times since, i see it as round 1 &2 – hamill and round 3 – bisping

with that being said, i think bisping should have looked in the mirror before telling matt to, “go back to wrestling!” it was hamill that messed up his face and messed it up good at that.

i’m waiting for a rematch.

I’ve known mike personally a few years now, and even though I wouldn’t consider him my best friend or anything. I do know that he gave that fight 100% and whether he won or lost no one can take away that he is a talented fighter.

However I’m sad to say that he really struggled in that fight and after watching it twice, Even I think he lost….

Only a re-match will silence us all…….

Bisping didn’t say he was a better man, he merely said what he should have said.

Why is no one saying anything about Hamill talking s*** about Bisping constantly since the show?

Why should Bisping be punished for making 1 little remark after hearing his name, when Hamill has been tarnishing Bispings ultimate fighter win since the show ended.

You Americans are making this too personal…

A rematch is insulting……Bisping doesnt deserve one in my opinion. R.I.P UFC

Im from Liverpool England near were bispings from im a huge fan of his but i think hammill took this one. i give the first to hammill the 2nd to hammill and the 3rd to bisping.

this was the worst decision i have ever seen in the ufc. i watched the fight with over 20 diff people and not one scored the fight for bisping.it reminded me of some of the japanese fights were the home town japanese fighter gets the home town decision. And this is not coming from a matt hamil fan.

This bout was scored on a ten point must system, the system most commonly used to score MMA competions. The rules of scoring are below with my comments added.

Effective Aggressiveness.
This is determined as the fighter showing most effort to win. It is of no use to simply be aggressive. The fighter’s effort must be effective effort.

Hamill had bisping backing up or on his back the entire fight. Everytime Bisbing threw a knee or a kick he got taken down. Though the guard of Bisping was “active” he never had Hamill in real trouble with a submission. Hamill rocked bisping. Bisping never rocked Hamill

Effective Technique.
This area includes Striking, Clinch Work, Takedowns, Submission attempts, Transitioning, and Positioning.

Multiple take downs, fairly even in striking, bisping NEVER maintained dominant position. Yes, he got up, but more often then not he was LET up. Hamill rocked bisping. Bisping never rocked Hamill

Cage/ Ring Control. This is assessed by determining which fighter has used the fighting area to his / her advantage the most.

Did anybody see bisbing step forward in this fight? The center of the ring was CONSTANTLY controlled by Hamill.

Defence / Escapes.

Bisping may have won this. He did a lot of escaping (ran like a scared rabbit) Beef, that’s what we in America call Sarcasm. Your ignorance is painful to read. Unfortunately this type of escaping doesn’t count in scoring and it’s why they put a door on the cage. Otherwise bisping may have ended up in his locker room hiding in his locker.

Anybody with any questions about who won this fight should print this out and watch it with the score card in mind. I don’t care one way or the other for either fighter, but it’s a disgrace to the sport when this is allowed to happen. I don’t hold bisping accountable, and I only “slam” him in this post to prove a point. He did not judge the fight, he only won a very unfair decision.

Bisping isn’t even in the same league as Hamill. Both of Bisping’s eyes were bleeding and he was on his back more times than a French whore. Maybe the Brit’s are still pissed off that we kicked their ass in 1776.

absolutely absurd!
UFC is rising over boxing and has just brought everything down to their level.

let it go, bisping beat hamill, its as simple as that, you can go on about conspiracy theories all you like, accept defeat and be men instead of the crying moaning bastards you have been, accept that michael bisping is here to stay at whatever weight, bisping, bisping, bisping,bisping.

I personally feel that the fight should be declared a no contest and both fighters records should be returned to pre fight status. I believe the judges should be suspeneded, and an investigation should take place.

Lostinsanity you are funny. Backing up is evading! So points scored for aggression and ring control obviously went to Bisping! Why? Hamill was chasing him around the ring so Bisping was controlling Hamill’s aggression and the ring at the same time! You don’t have to be lost and insane to agree with this but it helps!

MATT IS THE MAN!!! Before the fight even happened I could not pick I winner, because I had the same amount of respect for both fighters. I can’t believe that Bisping won he fought terribly, and you could tell he was scared of Matts amazing take downs!! This sport is one that I like because I thought that people said what was on there mind and what was right (Joe Rogan). However after the outcome of this fight I lost a lot of respect for Michael Bisping, Joe Rogan, and Dana White. I really think that Bisbing deserves to get his butt kicked in another fight agaist Matt. And most of all I think Matt deserves it. He’s a great athlete and just an amazing guy that deserves another chance, and this time all be routing for him all the way.

I must say I like both fighters, and I honestly am disappointed with the decision. Matt Hamill dominated that ring. I was shocked when I saw Matt Hamill kick his a**. Either way Bisping was not the best fighter that night. Matt Hamil was the champ in my eyes. Matt got robbed, it had to be a home court advantage. Matts come such a long way and his hard work shows. Those judges should looked into. So in favor of the English. Matt was so nice about it too,he said “oh the best man won”, but you could see in his face that he was so disappointed and hurt with the decision. And Bisping making negative comments towards him, so wrong of him. Sorry Matt. You got robbed.

and if you watch the end, it seemed like Bisping jumped up before he even heard his name called as winner.

I only caught 3 minutes of the 3rd round last Friday and thought after hearing the way bisping talked after the fight that he must have done something great the other two rounds? After seeing it all the way tonight I couldn’t believe that the decision went to bisping. I was pissed off. At the same time Matt shouldn’t have kept letting bisping back up, he needs to know when keep someone down and finish. Hamill made bisping look small… I agree that bisping should move down to 185. I doubt you’ll see either one of these fighters come close to holding a title. Bisping is not all that (don’t think he even hurt hamill once… and it’s not like hamill has great defense.. hamill’s not a counter striker either), Hamill has a ton of work to do before he reach that level, but atleast he’s got the strength. I would love to see a reach match and hopefully it won’t come down to the judges again!

Thats a really tough fight to call. Obviously Matt dominated round 1. And rounds 2 and 3 were even, and i could imagine a judge flipping a coin and picking bisping for a round, but its highly improbable that all 3 judges scored all 6 of those very even rounds for bisping; and whomever scored round 1 for bisping, has no business judging anything ever.

Also, its weird that Hamill wouldnt have won the close rounds, because eventhough Bisping did more striking, none of it hurt or slowed Matt down one bit, but the takedowns (which UFC judges usually weigh heavier) slowed bisping down a little bit. Odd indeed

when it comes to effective striking, who has a bleeding face? when it comes to effective grappling, who is being taken down?
when it comes to aggression, who is always backing up?
when it comes to octagon control, who is consistently running away? the reason we watch UFC is b/c either one of the fighters can win. Couture is a great fighter but his win against Gonzaga was a lucky win. he broke his nose on a takedown. Kongo is a great fighter but he beat Cro Cop by kneeing him in the balls twice. thats what we want to see, a real fight where anything can happen. Not, a fight where the decision is made before-hand. to Dana White, DO THIS RIGHT!

I’d also like to respond to this ‘Bias’ person who really shouldn’t be allowed to make comments on this blog. He seems to be well below the minimal IQ requirements for participating in an adult conversation. Hey, Bias! what country are YOU from?! Idiot!! For your information, Americans appreciate true sport. Not crap masquerading as sport, and as sports fans, we know when we’ve been served up some home cooking. Besides, as a man, I wouldn’t want to be given something I didn’t deserve, and if you feel comfortable with that, perhaps you’re not a man. Wait a minute… are you a woman?! Ooops!

Read the statement by Jeff Mullen on Bispings site I gave up there.

You will see why it was scored for Bisping.

It was only the inexperienced judge that scored it for Hamill, because contrary to what you know-nothings think, Bisping dominated the fight, he may have been going backwards, but that is effective defense and octagon control, he was controlling his opponents decisions and not allowing him to get close enough to do anything, and even when he did, especially in the 2nd and 3rd round, Hamill failed to do anything with it.

Hamill did NOT dominate this fight, it was a close fight, but Bisping was the more dominant in the way the fight was controlled.

For the record, Jeff Mullen is not British, I can’t say for sure, but I think he is a Nevada native.

I know it being Bispings site isn’t much of a reference for an unbiased opinion, but I hope that if you read it, you will see why it was scored for Bisping.

In the end, Hamill is not on Bispings level, Hamill is being allowed to say whatever he wants, just because he is hard of hearing?

Seems unfair that as soon as Bisping retaliates after the fight, he is suddenly the bad guy

I watched it again last night,Hamil easily had the first, the second was closer but still Hamil and the third was Bisping’s best but Hamil still had two takedowns and took his back twice ????.And since when does a fighter score points for being allowed to stand back up ,it’s not like he escaped a takedown and got up, Hamil let him up.Very shitty outcome to a fine fight by Hamil, showed how overrrated Bisping is though.

It’s that I have to repeat this but…..IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COUNTRY YOU COME FROM!!!!!! It’s about bloody integrity, to me anyways. “Bisping dominated the fight, he may have been going backwards, but that is effective defense and octagon control” Are you kidding me? Most people(a very small minority) that have tried to defend the decision have seemed to argue that he “outboxed” Hamill. Your explanation seems to lack even more credibility. I’ve been watching since UFC 1 and to be honest, this was the most obvious manipulation of scoring i have ever seen. To many things to question….and no answers to be found.
1. Why wasn’t the fight sanctioned?
2. Who benifits MOST from a Bisping win in London?
3. Why did the judges feel the need to explain themselves?
4. Was the explanation credible?
5. Why did 90% of MMA fans/writers feel Hammil should have won?
6. Did Matt Hamill score points while on the ground?
7. Did Matt Hamill already have a mouse on his face prior to the fight?
8. Did Michael Bisping scramble or did Hamill allow him to stand?
9. Who brought in the Judges?
10. Who did the drug testing?
11. How much money stood to change hands prior to the fight(vegas odds).
12. Can the fans do anything about it legally ie. demand an investigation?
13. Would their have been an investigation if the fight had been held in Nevada?
14. What was Dana’s response to people who ask these kinds of questions?
15. Do the fans have the right to ask these kind of questions?
16. What has been the UFC’s number 1 priority since the controversy took place?

If you honestly answer those questions (and many more that are out there) and still want to reduce it to a “bad call” it’s upto you.

Hi, Ally from Kirkby. Possess a little hostility towards Americans do we? The point I was trying to make is that we would rather have seen Matt Hamill get a beat down rather than lose like that. Prior to his actions in this fight, I liked Bisping. I thought it was in poor taste to brag after the fight, but then again he may have been delusional. Had Bisping won the fight and the decision went to Hamill, I would be defending Bisping.

And you wouldn’t have survived were I grew up. There’s no need to be vulgar, unless you just can’t control your emotions. Weakness.

Insane said “Bisping dominated the fight, he may have been going backwards, but that is effective defense and octagon control, he was controlling his opponents decisions..”

Bisping dominated the fight by going backwards? Having your opponent chase you around the ring is establishing octagon control? That isn’t the UFC that is Alice in Wonderland. Alice was willing to believe 6 impossible things before breakfast. You have four left. LOL

Bisbing you suck

Keep it simple, Bisbing had the crap smacked out of him, was taken down at will and he was beaten by a stronger man, Josh Craicheck won his previos fight by simply getting the takedowmns.Bisbing shot his mouth off about Hamill being one dimentional, Hamill beat him at his own game

The main concern should be that Dana White had invested to much money in promoting Bisbing for him to loose, bisping talks better so he can promote himself more to a large ’20 thousand o2 tickets sales aswell as pay per view’ uk audience.
Eventually ufc became a slave to the numbers with Dana white being the biggest bitch of all, you know he called the shots on that decision, siting at the side of the ring, president of the ufc world.

Power corrupts, ultimate fighter power absolutely corrupts. we thought ufc was pure, we may have just witnessed the turning point. You could see it on the faces of the presenters and Bisbing couldnt hide his face far enough in his bassball cap. Before you know it the fights will be fabricated, if they arent allready, just like wwf, who knows maybe hulk hogan can make a comeback?

All i know is that hurt, i was starting to get into it, their are some great athleates with great heart, who now have to dance to that arsehole Dana Whites puppet strings.

I like bisping, but I dont see how you could give either of the first two rounds to him… the third maybe… result sucked- I couldnt believe what I was seeing.

Say what you like about Bisping going backwards, but like I said before, I never once saw him turn his back to his opponent.

Why do you have to be going forward to win a fight? He was making Hamill chase him.

Seriously, if any of you were fighters, you would know that Bisping going backwards was a good tactic, he was keeping as much distance from an established wrestler as he felt was necessary.

It’s like boxing, if you are fighting someone who likes to fight up close, you stay far away, and it is the same with MMA. Fight someone who is experienced in grappling, stay far enough away to make it hard for them to grab you.

But to say that Hamill dominated is ridiculous, if he had dominated, he would have won the fight, it’s simple.

To accuse the fight of being fixed is also ridiculous, the fact is, Hamill missed more shots than he hit, therefore he lost the effective striking points, he let Bisping get up, which lost him the ground control/grappling points, and he was being forced to follow Bisping, rather than make Bisping go where he wanted him to, losing the octagon control points.

I am actually really looking forward to a rematch, although Bisping shouldn’t really have to take it, in the end, he won, that is what matters, and he is now 15-0 opposed to Hamills 5-1.

But all you people are seeing is Hamill landing more punches than Bisping, and getting a couple of takedowns (which he did nothing with) you aren’t taking into account that he actually hit more air than anything, and there wasn’t a single time in the second round at least for me, that I felt he was controlling the pace of the fight.

To be honest all the opinions ive heard dont seem to be backed up very well. Yes Matt hamill did have the first round he outboxed Bisping and scored the takedown. However the following 2 rounds went to Bisping, he out performed him on the feet by using the octagon to his advantage in keeping Hamill’s heavy right hand at bay, and also he out performed him on the floor every takedown Hamill performed was nullified by a close good guard leading to Bisping getting back to his feet. Hamill was very agressive and was constantly coming at Bisping and did land one or two good hits but other than that he had nothing for the judges to award him points for. 2-1 to Bisping

Guys i am English so i resent many of your Americans racist comments as usual so get a life. FYI i see it at worst a draw but Hamill won so I am not biased. BUT you guys have very short memories about bad decisions by your own judges when theres an american figher involved !! God knows how many fights your judges have cheated on over the years. Cop it on the chin its a leaf out of your own book! Sad result I agree but you set the precedent on cheating so wear it!

I will never pay to see another ufc fight. That was total BS. Dana and rogan. Shameon you both…it was fixed and they know it. They had the brit judge go all 3 for matt to make it look like it showed no favortism. I hope the ufc falls on it’s face. I missed ordering 75 and just watched it tonight…what a shame. white, you are dirt.

When I saw the Hammil/Bisping fight the first time, I could NOT believe any judge could give any of the 3 rounds to Bisping. Hammil dominated each round. Hammil controlled the octagon each round, taking Bisping down at will. Bisping NEVER landed a single punch or kick that wobbled Hammil, and NEVER took Hammil down, and, NEVER had control of the octagon. All Bisping did was run and get hit! The UFC should apologize to Matt Hammil. He outperformed Bisping in EVERY round. Hammil was robbed of a victory. Bisping received a victory he DID NOT deserve or earn. Hammil made Bisping look like a British wimp. If Bisping is any man or MMA competitor at all, he should immediately seek a rematch with Hammil. But, Bisping wont do that. He knows Hammil whipped his tail and he doesn’t want to have it happen again. The UFC cheated Hammil.

RE to MEDI

wot the F*** do u mean the brits ant won any thing in year you dumb f**k u said cricket we won the ashes you said rugby we won the world cup you said football (soccer) we have won the champions league 2 out of the last three years so for some 1 who has lived in the uk u know jack sh*t, why dont u leave your room and try and get laid stupid f**k!!

but yes hamil was robbed not as badly as some of you think but he had that fight won.

and also, michael did not win.

I run a site in Canada. Over 200,000 strong. My poll blows Bisping away. (95 percent for Hammil ) What a farce. Unfortunately, the UFC is turning commercial and feels the need to have the British/English favour. Sucks to be them. (The UFC)
They lost a lot of respect (and viewers) with that miscarriage of un-righteousness.
UFC…Shame on you!
No worries Matt. YOU WON!

everyones saying hamill dominated for 2 rounds when in reality he took bisping down and was just trying to lay and pray his way 2 a decision for 2 rounds. he showed no agression whatsoever. come on how can u say he dominated the second? his face was nearly as messed up as bispings. and bisping deffinatly won the 3rd. hamill barely landed 1 shot that round. why dont u yanks just pull your heads out of your arses for 1 minute and just accept that THE BEST MAN WON.

No doubt the fix was in. The UFC has lost its way and can’t be trusted after this. I will no longer pay my money or respect to UFC after that travesty

I would say its a travisty to Matt Hamill, I am sick with Discust after watching that fight and hearing Joe Rogan Cheering for Bisping The hole fight, Matt Hamill Was Punching Mike Bisping Face in Standing, I don’t know what fight anyone who thinks Bisping won that fight was watching,You Don’t know fighting at all. The UFC Should Be ashamed at yourselves for Taking a fight that Matt Hamill Clearly won, and by the way rogan was Cheering for Bisping and I said to my friend sitting here before the fight even ended that its a setup. Everyone In England Even Knew it, What A Bummer I thought Boxing was Crooked But this takes the Cake, I Quit Watching Boxing and I am sure going to watch more of these UFC fights and Determine If I will Quit watching it too. Sure am glad Dan the Man gave bisping A good Ass whipping, LOL good job Dan, Now Dana White And Joe Rogan Need some Straiting out, Hope someone takes something away from them like they did to Poor Matt Hamill. Wow I mean Geeze Would you Blame him if he didn’t come back to fight at all after that CRAP. P.S. I don’t mean nothing bad happens to them, I just wish they knew what they done to a Human, A Person, Someone Who Has had a very tough Life… Sorry for the mis spelled words Iam not good in grammar,

I just saw this replay last night, and I am sickened by the bogus judging. Hamill may be deaf, but only a blind person would have thought Bisping won this fight. I guess Bisping winning and keeping his fans in the UK ordering pay per view was more important than impartial judging. This sure looked rigged to me. I will never watch UFC again.

How about a rematch Dana??? This time lets use some judges that know what they are seeing. Matt destroyed the jerk