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Ozinator Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:07:35 from 24.150.11.142    

He gets his hate mixed up…too bad because I would have liked to see legitimate anger at the aspect of a chromosomal man severely beating unknowing women. Sounds like his hate isn’t entirely about that…that’s what makes educating people on this hard to do because all they hear is an idiot like Meathead when you try.

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:07:38 from 24.212.49.162    

He said what most people think.He’s not calling trannies sociopathic freaks,he’s saying Fallon Fox is a sociopath freak for never saying it used to be a man.Big difference.So now if there’s a tranny serial killer,we won’t be able to call it a crazy F*** because it would be trans phobic???

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tehnewnew Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:07:42 from 157.166.167.129    

wow, meathead just lost a lot of respect from me.

i certainly don’t know if it’s right for fallon fox to be a sanctioned fighter, i assume smarter people than me are making that decision. i’d be surprised if she had a greater advantage than any of these TRT using cheaters.

regardless, the level of vitriol and disrespect after the “jokes” was disgusting, regardless of who it was aimed at.

good on the UFC for making it clear that mixed martial arts doesn’t welcome hateful morons.

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Doyle Brunson Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:24:49 from 99.233.125.103    

I didn’t watch the entire interview I just read a bit about what he said and I agree. It makes me sick that people can get in trouble for having an opinion.

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PC BullSh*T Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:25:26 from 76.173.249.99    

This is nonsense,he shouldn’t be suspended for personal beliefs.
Freedom of speech is only ok if you tow the line of the LGBT.

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PC BullSh*T Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:34:07 from 76.173.249.99    

It’s a tactic used by groups with a agenda to vilify anyone whom doesn’t agree with their cause.If you don’t agree with them you will be labeled hateful.

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MMAgiantsilva Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:46:35 from 24.163.17.22    

Thats bullshit. I agree with everything Mitrione said actually.

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pakman Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:53:13 from 173.202.142.217    

tehnewnew, why are you so offended, are you a f***** or tranny? What he said is right on point!

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greasegun Says, in 4-8-2013 at 20:57:25 from 99.239.16.15    

Ariels s*** eating grin the whole time….dude loves this stuff.

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ml Says, in 4-8-2013 at 21:00:31 from 67.180.45.200    

He shouldn’t have been suspended for that, he voiced his opinion. The UFC could have expressed its disagreement with Mitrione without suspending him. That being said, he should have chosen his words more carefully, could have expressed his opinion without the hate. It was very stupid of Mitrione to call Fox a freak on camera, very stupid indeed.

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INANEBIGNATE Says, in 4-8-2013 at 21:16:36 from 75.145.211.73    

pretty dumb for him to be suspended for that. Fox is still and always be a man that can not be changed its crazy that he would ever be able to fight women. If Fox wants to fight he should fight other men

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tobes Says, in 4-8-2013 at 21:24:32 from 99.232.57.160    

YES! Meathead lives up to his name. I was somewhat a fan of this idiot (more of his fighting, not of him per se) until I saw him push an official for no good reason after his KO on Saturday. Then he gets himself suspended.

Karma! :)

Put him against AA – that’d be an interesting match up

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dub Says, in 4-8-2013 at 21:39:33 from 64.134.187.11    

Opinions do matter when you’re working for someone(UFC). If you publicly voice your opinion that you hate women and want to beat woman, sure its your opinion, but don’t expect your employer to keep you around. No employer wants to be known as a company who employs woman hater/beaters.. but i agree to a strong extent with Matt here.

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ThatGuy Says, in 4-8-2013 at 21:46:16 from 50.4.211.10    

The UFC had to do this. With Cyborg on their payroll it obvious they already condone it.

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Tempted Says, in 4-8-2013 at 22:23:21 from 68.154.33.73    

It isn’t a she, its an it. It has no business fighting in the female divisions since it was born a man and lived that way for 2 decades. He said nothing wrong, he simply stated that it is a man fighting in the women’s division and that it is despicable. Most of us agree.

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drewblood Says, in 4-8-2013 at 22:56:42 from 24.186.12.159    

retard factor = 100%
funny factor =0%

you went up against 2 gatekeepers in Roy and Kongo … and lost. Not even worth our time.

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ken shiro Says, in 4-8-2013 at 23:01:34 from 24.43.122.118    

War Meathead!!!!!! Never back down!! The term “politically correct” assumes that you can pick up a piece of s*** from the clean end!!!

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Rick Says, in 4-8-2013 at 23:02:56 from 72.214.7.86    

Cyborg isn’t on UFC’s Payroll Genius.

Rogan had a similar rant and he didnt get suspended.

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Jack Says, in 4-8-2013 at 23:30:16 from 216.67.6.208    

Lol, you can take off the Ford emblem, but you’ll never be a Chevy. Guess you can’t point that out?

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bad ass mofo and his paragraph Says, in 4-8-2013 at 23:45:08 from 99.64.59.240    

Man, f*ck all you d*ckless guys who post on here saying a man can’t have an opinion and voice it in America? A man can’t stand up for his beliefs? Yeah okay you bunch of little Kim Jong Il loving genital mutilation sympathizing pansies… imagine if your boss read the derogatory comments you made about Mitrione calling him a meathead because you disagree with him and fired you for it, fair? Don’t you like having an opinion? No? You support a deranged man beating a woman? 50 years ago you would be burning crosses and protesting Martin Luther King speeches, you sheep. Too bad you can’t vote for Obama a third time you worthless vocal meat bags. Nuff said?

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px Says, in 4-8-2013 at 23:51:59 from 83.11.208.203    

next time its gonna be a thoughtcrime…

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Johnnybeards Says, in 4-8-2013 at 23:56:08 from 69.14.122.99    

What a disgusting person. I am very disappointed in many of the comments on here. What century do we live in?
Regardless of what side of the fight debate you are on here, this type of behavior is absolutely disgusting. Anyone who claims Fallon Fox had a sex change so she could “beat up women” is seriously speaking pure bigotry out of their ass.

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bjjbandit Says, in 4-9-2013 at 00:01:00 from 66.177.111.65    

You can have free speech as long as it doesn’t offend the gender confused. MM may be a meathead but he is not a coward bowing down to the BTGL?!?! There will be no lines drawn and no extent will be reached in the don’t offend campaign.

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ETK Says, in 4-9-2013 at 00:26:57 from 76.90.7.102    

The homo man has freedom to beat on women. But the hetero man does not have freedom to express himself.

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ETK Says, in 4-9-2013 at 00:31:57 from 76.90.7.102    

He has a right to disagree with and dislike and speak against.

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ETK Says, in 4-9-2013 at 00:33:18 from 76.90.7.102    

There are UFC contracts that take away individual’s freedoms.

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Noel Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:08:01 from 71.20.70.242    

@KungFuLowKick
Mitrione may or may not be transphobic but you sure as hell are but referring to a person as “it.”

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Wow Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:11:04 from 71.213.173.98    

@johnnybeards
It’s not bigotry. Fox lied, she/he is not a woman. If Fox fought other transgenders it’d be fine, but changing your sex a few years ago doesn’t make your larger bone density, frame and superior muscle mass go away. If the operation had occurred during she/he’s youth, before puberty it might be fair. But to go in there, knowing you have a huge advantage is f****** demented. If you think it’s okay for someone who, other than not having a penis and balls, is still a man, then you’re a piece of f****** s***.

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Noel Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:11:15 from 71.20.70.242    

@PC Bullshit
Every employer has a code of conduct it expects employees to follow. You would know that if you’ve ever had a job.

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Ozinator Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:12:12 from 24.150.11.142    

reading comments here is like the spinal tap “these go to 11″ joke. The problem isn’t his opinion that Fox has an advantage due to actually being a man…it’s the added hate he has outside of that for transgender people,i.e., removed from the issue of fighting, he HATES transexuals and and every logical sounding thing he said is smokescreen for that

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:12:29 from 24.212.49.162    

@Johnnybeards
Nobody said it had the sex change just to be a man beating up women.But if you get a sex change and don’t tell it to the organization and your opponent,you are a sociopathic freak.

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Noel Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:13:28 from 71.20.70.242    

@pakman
Mitrione is ignorant on this issue as you are but you’re also an idiotic bigot.

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straightAhead Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:28:38 from 178.153.200.72    

UFC SUCKS!!! HE didnt say anything directed at transgendered people! He just ranted at Fallon Fox specifically for fighting women who didnt know Fallon used to be a man.

You idiots who are calling Matt a bigot are all dumb as phuck! Watch the efing interview you cretins!!

Also, the only reason UFC is cool with the LBG community is because Dana is bi himself. He hasnt been outed as yet you will see eventually.

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English Jon Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:30:40 from 149.135.146.88    

I think transgender people are disgusting personally… I think the operation should be illegal… as it isn’t… the only people Fallon Fox should be fighting is other transgender freaks.

(my thought and opinions are solely mine and not my employer)… MM should’ve said that at the end of his speech.

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New age Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:34:42 from 184.66.40.15    

Flat out! That thing, is a man, now able to legally compete with women! I guess if his opponents are willing to fight him, then it is their choice. I mean they let cris cyborg compete with women, and she is hardley a woman. “I fear her”

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straightAhead Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:40:08 from 178.153.200.72    

To any of you who are hating on Matt for these comments: Would you want your sister, daughter, mom, wife, to fight fallon fox without first knowing she used to be a man?!? Thats the POINT! When she first started fighting she didnt tell people she used to be a man! That is very significant.

If you dont think she has an advantage from previously being a man then you are smoking something strong. Let her fight other transgendered people and leave the real women alone

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Freaklegion Says, in 4-9-2013 at 01:56:44 from 24.84.244.112    

And this thread is a prime example of why the world has so far to go.

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Meat Drapes Says, in 4-9-2013 at 02:28:11 from 75.83.204.7    

Chopping off your penis and testicles, having fake breasts installed and taking female hormones because you THINK you are another gender is considered normal and sane but calling this out for what it is is now a crime? F*** Western civilization DESERVES to crumble. What IDIOTS!

Hey I think I’m a f****** hawk, I’m going to have a beak installed, feathers implanted and if you criticize me you are RAPTOR PHOBIC!

Critical thinking is officially over.

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Facefrack Says, in 4-9-2013 at 02:28:21 from 98.245.116.215    

I feel like the LGBT community, of all people, should be able recognize that there are complicated issues that it’s really difficult to make fitting rules for. There clearly aren’t enough transvestite fighters to make a division for them. I’m happy to refer to her as a woman, but its definitely complicated to try to integrate her into the UFC to fight females, since she grew up anatomically male. Even on hormone therapy, you can’t undo having the physical frame of a man. As for Meathead… I suppose I think the UFC should have made some public statements to distance themselves from his rant n possibly give him a little fine to cool any LGBT community backlash, but suspending him for having an opinion seems extreme. Even if I do think he’s being hit too hard for this, I still found his joke tasteless n mostly a reflection of ignorance. Its one thing to tell a joke like that in your living room with your buddies, but in a public forum its needlessly incendiary. Shame on you Meathead.

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ETK Says, in 4-9-2013 at 03:25:01 from 76.90.7.102    

And they want to force children to like homosexuality.

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skifri3 Says, in 4-9-2013 at 03:38:24 from 98.154.134.99    

Meathead expressed his politcally-incorrect sentiments, but it seemed pretty mild considering it came from a guy who makes his living fighting in a cage.

That’s what happens when you’re part of a big organization like the UFC. You can’t offend protected-classes of people or else you’ll make the organization look bad.

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STIXXX Says, in 4-9-2013 at 03:59:20 from 70.49.192.227    

wrote this elseware but here it goes again.this is commical.questions need to be addressed such as did this person have any interest in becoming an mma fighter before he became transgender.did he train at all before the change.a transgender is not the sex they become,he will always be a man.he still has a penis,its just inverted now.this is now a gay man trapped in a mans body with breasts and a vagina(all of which were altered male parts,can i get steel put in my fists for competitive edge).he has no uterus,felopian tubes or any other woman specific traits.his jaw will always be stronger his body type is not feminine.he does not hit the same(has larger hands and wrists and broader shoulders)even the physical movements of a man differ than that of a woman.lets not forget our brains are different.men are designed for different things and he was a fully developed strait man before re-assignment.if you believe that you are something that your not you are a delusional person.if i feel that i am royalty from birth will you give me a crown and call me your majesty or will you call me nuts.he is a liar,he did not disclose his history before already putting losses on female records(does he tell boyfriends he was a man?)he is sick(he is a man shedding tears in interviews about the possibility of not getting to knee womens faces in)sociopathic(beating on women without knowing, understanding, or caring about the effects of his action or what society thinks about it)disgusting freak(not for the change personally i attribute that to mental health,but for wanting to beat on women after having relationships and sleeping with them for the majority of his life as a man)has nyone heard of the mma fighter(insert her male name here)nope….hmm makes you think.by your majesty king STIXXX

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whitedragon Says, in 4-9-2013 at 04:37:20 from 76.169.139.19    

Give me a f****** break…Seriously ?! you are going to suspend somebody because of his/her opinion…wat a f***** double standard!!! we claim to be a democracy and we can’t have a legitimate opinion…it makes me sick!!!!

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palladynPL Says, in 4-9-2013 at 06:42:22 from 77.65.6.18    

With all hatred talk to promote some fights, this is f…g hypocritical. Guess Dana didn’t like him
@ Johnnybeards
Century doesn’t matter what matter is to use your brain and knowledge. You want to cut your dick, fine with me, as long as I don’t have to pay for this and this person is not sticking his dickless crotch to my face. There are some medical cases when “woman is close in man body” and opposite. Yet those are very rare, and usually sex-change opperations are covered by government. I don’t know if this is the case of Fox and neither you. You answer was full of emotion, and accusations. Besides where is freedom of speech?

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london_jones Says, in 4-9-2013 at 07:19:16 from 94.11.166.131    

you can’t say s**t anymore….

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MMA_master Says, in 4-9-2013 at 08:11:42 from 98.229.244.236    

There’s nothing wrong with Mitrione speaking his mind. I agree with just about everything he said and anyone that says they don’t has serious problems. She (Fallon Fox) is definitely a He. He definitely did hide his medical history. He has been a man for his whole life and is now beating up women. I’ve only listed facts. Try to defend Mr. Fallon Fox now.

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ANON Says, in 4-9-2013 at 08:31:47 from 174.110.154.0    

Dana doesnt seem to be afraid of anyone, unless they are in the LGBT community. Meathead has a right to his opinion like everyone else. Im with you MM. (funny how LGBT’ers believe in equality for everyone, unless it affects them, then not)

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vic77 Says, in 4-9-2013 at 08:48:27 from 90.177.57.227    

amerika loves it’s lgbt’s

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STIXXX Says, in 4-9-2013 at 08:55:49 from 70.49.192.227    

can’t believe you deleted my post.sad.

Bruno: What post. Did not delete.

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mrl3 Says, in 4-9-2013 at 09:24:29 from 68.56.177.44    

To Dana White.

If you don’t like personally what Matt Mitrione had to say regarding Fox Fallon’s transgender status…. then go sit on yourself REAL HARD. Any moron understands that Matt Mitrione does not speak for the UFC. The UFC should let it’s fighters be who they are instead of some droned robots you are trying to create. Matt was merely giving an opinion. I’d rather listen to a genuine opinion, even if I don’t agree with it, than some rehearsed line coming down with the MAN’s approval. Personally, I agree with every word Matt said and I will NEVER pay to watch a man beat up on a woman. My advise…..Stay out of the morality business. Because it’s quite obvious you don’t have any!

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PAPABear Says, in 4-9-2013 at 09:42:46 from 50.192.148.205    

Its not what he said, its how he said it…he was a total douche…tyring to be funny, came out like a total douche bag meat head…

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def Says, in 4-9-2013 at 10:06:03 from 126.60.225.176    

You idiots seem to have freedom of speech all confused. Yes, Meathead has freedom of speech – was he arrested? No.

Yo, at your office start telling everyone who will listen to you about how you don’t like black people and see how quickly you lose your job.

You have the freedom to say whatever you want, but your company has the freedom to disagree with you and not associate itself with you.

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jdogg Says, in 4-9-2013 at 10:34:41 from 71.8.38.97    

Say anything you want about the President, christians, Jesus, our military, etc, etc. But say one negative thing about gays or lesbians and any “rights” you ever had are infringed upon in a steadfast manner. Hypocrisy?

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KungFuLowKick Says, in 4-9-2013 at 11:45:18 from 24.212.49.162    

English is not my first language so I might not know every grammar rules.But from what I know “HE” is for a male and “SHE” is for females.So you can’t call Fallon HE because it’s not a HE anymore and it will never be a SHE so “IT” is the perfect term to describe.I don’t care if you have issues and chopping off your dick will make you feel better.I won’t stop you.But if you want to fight women after getting your dick chopped off then you are a sick person.Are we so politically correct now that a transgender can’t be a mentally insane person anymore??I’m not saying every transgender is insane but it’s impossible every transgenders are not insane.If you are an ex marine man fighting women and you never tell it,you are a disgusting insane person.So tomorrow if we have catch a transgender serial killer,would we be able to have an opinion on that serial killer or calling a transgender killer crazy would be considered bigotry and trans phobia from the BLT community??

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mrl3 Says, in 4-9-2013 at 12:02:38 from 68.56.177.44    

To: DEF……

Matt isn’t in an office and he isn’t on company grounds. So your point doesn’t make any rational sense.

It appears you “have freedom of speech all confused.” Maybe you should read a little more law books and a little less Ophrah.

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straightAhead Says, in 4-9-2013 at 12:26:49 from 78.101.131.198    

Dana insulted a female reporter from Sherdog a while back calling her a bitch and a C*** repeatedly in an interview and he banned Sherdog from ever getting press passes to UFC events out of his normal childish spite. There was a big blow up about it and he was never even reprimanded nor disciplined in any way. Like i said before the UFC sucks! Dana is a pimp and most of the fighters are hos. The UFC ring girls have bodies like 12 year old boys because dana likes his women to have bodies like men with breast implants

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Joe Dog Says, in 4-9-2013 at 12:58:49 from 66.228.23.136    

Why don’t they let Chis Cyborg beat up Fallon Fox??

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tehnewnew Says, in 4-9-2013 at 13:12:36 from 70.89.91.77    

def is one of the few people making sense in here.

mitrione can say whatever he wants. the UFC can respond how they want. i’m guessing the fact that fallon fox is also a UFC fighter has something to do with it. mitrione isn’t just insulting her, he’s potentially hurting the UFC’s product. it’s not rocket science.

@pakman
the fact that you think i have to be gay or transgendered to be disgusted by hate says a lot about you and very little about me. it’s called empathy, kid.

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OscarMayhem Says, in 4-9-2013 at 13:34:19 from 108.73.3.37    

You guys are hilarious. The UFC can suspend whomever they want for violating their rules. There have been more than a few fighters suspended for tweeting off colored remarks. You are entitled to your opinion, but if you’re employer has a code of conduct, you need to follow it. Stop the BS. Especially the last comment by jdogg. That is just dribble.

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Azamat_Bagatov Says, in 4-9-2013 at 13:40:51 from 70.112.102.156    

Here is a serious question. What do yall think Foxs testosterone level is? Is it in the womens range or the mans range? Other metrics: whats her 100yd dash time, vertical leap, bench press, deadlift, squat compared to the top female fighters and the male fighters for that matter. You get these answers and you will solve the problem easily.

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Tempted Says, in 4-9-2013 at 13:42:36 from 74.160.195.58    

Quite simply this is a gay man who is fighting women. Nothing about it is acceptable.

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OscarMayhem Says, in 4-9-2013 at 13:50:28 from 108.73.3.37    

After rereading the comments I have to say, some of you freedom of speech champions must have skipped history, civics, government, and constitutional law class, and everything but the comics. Your place of business never had confidentiality agreements, employee codes of conduct, and your HR director must have been a turtle. For those here State’s side, the US Constitution is really short. Look it up.

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OscarMayhem Says, in 4-9-2013 at 14:18:55 from 108.73.3.37    

@ mrl3

I’d take Def’s Oprah education vs. your tea leaf reading any day.

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McRamiches Says, in 4-9-2013 at 14:36:30 from 24.20.151.87    

The point is that Meathead being under UFC contract, should know and understand the code of conduct. Now it does not mean he cant have his own opinion, but at the risk of being reprimanded, he should choose to voice is opinion more tactfully. for example if he said “i dont agree with the athletics commission to let fox fight, in my eyes she still has a chromosomal advantage over other female fighters” That would have sufficed and not gotten him in trouble. he did put a little too much douche bagary into the typical Ariel Helwani loaded question.
Yes this is ‘Merika, were freedom of speech reigns supreme, but guess what he works for a private company with a set of rules, you talk crap in a public forum then yes you risk getting in trouble, simple as that.
On a side note, Cyborg finally would have a legit even opponent to match her she-man hormones.

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jammyman Says, in 4-9-2013 at 16:30:32 from 208.181.60.170    

Fox future opponents should be with other men, namely, Cyborg Santos. I would love to see that fight.

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ThatGuy Says, in 4-9-2013 at 17:05:44 from 50.4.211.10    

PAPABear Says “Its not what he said, its how he said it…he was a total douche…tying to be funny, came out like a total douche bag meat head,”

^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^

If you watch what Joe Rogan had to say he put it a lot better. MM just seemed so angry and intolerant.

The main problem here is you can’t say “I don’t agree with X”. Without everyone automatically assuming you must hate X to not allow X to do Y. As Joe said I am completely supportive of you if you want to go the trans gender route.

The fact of the matter is (and this NO ONE can argue with) Fox was born a man and spent over 30 years as such. If you think this does not give an advantage then you are just as bad as the people that don’t want her to fight just because they hate trans genders.

Something that was also not mentioned was Fox was also in the military. So add that training in there as well.

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T’Challa Says, in 4-9-2013 at 18:04:56 from 99.225.241.108    

I don’t think Fallon should be allowed to fight women, other transgendered (male to female) fighters yes, but women, no. Mitrione went a little extra, but to me it seemed his disgust was more at the fact that Fox is allowed to beat up women.

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wcoastassassin Says, in 4-9-2013 at 19:03:38 from 98.247.202.56    

BOYCOTT UFC until they lift this stupid suspension. Maybe Dana beats his wife so he wants to take a stand for men being allowed to beat on women? Having Ronda Rousey and women in the UFC is one thing, I support that 100%. When you as a multi million dollar corporation decide to endorse women beating on men, we need to stop giving them our money.
BOYCOTT UFC

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tehnewnew Says, in 4-9-2013 at 21:22:27 from 70.89.91.77    

boycott UFC because you can’t watch meathead be a (barely) gatekeeper? lol

“the typical Ariel Helwani loaded question”
there was no question. all ariel did was let meathead talk. :)

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mrl3 Says, in 4-10-2013 at 09:56:08 from 68.56.177.44    

To: OSCARMAYHEM
When folks try to argue without any rational point….they resort to name calling. Yes..I’m talking to YOU!

1) Matt said NOTHING wrong and shouldn’t be punished for expressing his objection to a VERY controversial door that the UFC opened. Bottom line!

2) Fox is NOT a woman and NEVER will be. Fox’s genetic and athletic baseline is not equal to 99% of the women out there. That’s not fair…And that’s not fun to watch.

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OscarMayhem Says, in 4-10-2013 at 19:22:24 from 108.73.3.37    

@ mrl3

Well I guess we agree we resorted to name calling. My apologies but I will defend Def’s position. Please understand that the substantive argument is being changed by you and your kin. This was an appropriateness argument. Was the UFC justified in suspending Mitrione for his statements? The argument isn’t whether (Fox should Fight women, men, or Nutria). Understand the issue is complex, you justify your sociology-cultural position by grabbing on to the wrong (albeit related) topic. Pay attention, or learn how to preface. For instance, “UFC has a right to enforce, but I want to use this forum to discuss my own hangups”. If someone bites at your attempt to troll, then have at it. Don’t think you need to come to the safety of women (some obviously knowingly fighting a transgendered female (referred to some here as mutilated “it”). Folks that’s just being homophobic and chauvinistic.

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jojo123 Says, in 4-11-2013 at 12:30:28 from 64.123.120.233    

Bottom line:
If you sign a contract that says you shouldn’t talk about something, then you shouldn’t talk about it…simple as that. If you want to keep you Job then follow the rules.

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