Manny Gamburyan Vs Jeff Cox Fight Video UFC Fight Night 13

Wazz up with that kick…bad taste dude!

A remach with Diaz would be good…

I would not mind at all if his next opponent goes to touch gloves and punches his head off his shoulders. Unfortunately it’s not going to happen because people are not going to sink to his level. I hope the UFC gets Krazy Horse. He’ll do it.

listen to the start goldberg says “cox has a 2 inch reach advantage”

good stuff

no very sportsman like its mma not ring around the rosie when the ref says fight you fight you dont play patty cake in the center of the cage

I agree with you all, that was hella pussy at the start trying to land that kick.

I really liked Manny… but that kick at the start is really dirty.

it’s amusing on how Nate Diaz is fighting stellar competition while Manny is fighting a guy that is 13 years older than him and I’ve never even heard of the guy. Nate would destroy this punk. what a pussy.

As far as Im concerned, Nate lost the first round to Manny. Nate didn’t really earn the victory, he was more or less handed one because of the injury. You know sh** happens but I can’t believe that the rematch hasn’t happened yet, maybe Diaz is ducking Manny?

LOL…. you can hear how quiet the spectators are during the post fight interview. People dont give a shit about him after he did that cheap shot.

Manny is now and always will be a disgrace to mixed martial arts, but given his relation and training with Karo, I guess that’s no surprise. He’s a pathetic excuse for a fighter who can’t take a real fighter so they throw Jeff Cox at him.

Maybe they can get one of the sidegirls to take him on. I’d pay to watch that, except Manny’s probably more interested in Mazzagatti or Dean than a sidegirl hehe.

he wanted to come out rushing. But he accepted the glove touch

I agree with whomever said that glove touching at the beginning of a round sucks. There are definitely times when it takes the explosiveness out of the beginning of rounds. However, faking a glove touch is just scummy. Either do it or don’t do it. Don’t use it as a way to get a cheap shot in. If Manny didn’t want to touch gloves, he shouldn’t have put his hand up at all. He should have just gone about his gameplan. I lost a lot of respect for him, not because he didn’t touch gloves, but because he used a fake glove touch as a cheap weapon.

dont call him Karo.. the guy doesnt know how to train. has crazy judo but NO cardio.. manny would wreck Karo I believe… hes a hot head and needs to get beat up badly… manny that is

“Funny that no one said Nate Diaz’s gloating when a sunk that triangle was unsportsmanlike, everyone said it was awesome, the kick didn’t do crap. It looked like it was just to push him away.

I still like Manny a hell of a lot more than Diaz, Diaz is a punk, all around. At least Manny had some nice things to say, Diaz just talks shit, and sounds like damn handi-cap.

And how can you not respect that kind of power? Gi-less Judo is NOT easy, AND how often do you see a dude tap from a guillotine that fast? Manny is a beast and should have won the show.”– Sunfish Hero

cheering the fact that you know you won after a hard fought battle, and taking a cheap shot at someone are two different things.

i am a judo black belt, and i’d have to say that it’s not easy, but on a nobody like jeff cox whose that much older than manny, it is easy sir. and once again, someone like jeff cox will tap that fast from a guillotine. put a real fighter in there, and i bet they have much more composure. manny has had impressive wins over shit competition. he’s a bitch.

plain ad simple, diaz may talk shit, but he can back it up against GREAT competition instead of bitch competition. i don’t care for the ghetto rat shit either, but he kid is damn good on the ground.

what a dick for doing thta, they need to stop touching gloves cuz people keep pulling those gay ass moves. and now im glad he dislocated his shoulder against diaz.

““it’s amusing on how Nate Diaz is fighting stellar competition while Manny is fighting a guy that is 13 years older than him and I’ve never even heard of the guy. Nate would destroy this punk. what a pussy”

Manny was DESTROYING DIAZ on the TUF 5 finale. Then his shoulder popped out when he went for the take down. Watch it before you speak.

Secondly, whats so pussy about this kick. Yeah, there gloves didn’t touch properly, but by the looks of it, manny was too focused on destroying his opponent than the formalities. Have you guys competed? If you have, and you know what the adrenaline rush feels like, you know theres only one thing on your mind, and all else doesn’t really matter, especially if its your first couple fights.”–Matt Hamill fan

destroying as in how? the fight wasn’t even that long for shit. lol. but hey, i guess 20 seconds into the second round suddenly rules out the other fighter as someone who can make a comeback like most. also i’m pretty sure manny had more experience than nate at the time but with extensive experience in competition outside of MMA. that was also then, this is now. manny is fighting punks while nate has fought damn good guys. i did watch it before i spoke little boy.

yes, i have competed. i’m 5-0 as an mma professional fighter. i have not fought the likes of UFC stellar competition, but i’ve at least been IN a cage. only one thing on your mind? true, but you also are mature enough to respect another opponent and not do anything a punk would do either. that was a cheap shot. plain and simple. you can defend it in any way you like, but get in the cage and have someone pull that shit on you after you taking time to learn a discipline to not only learn self control and the ability to defend yourself…but also respect for your fellow man. manny has none of that.

Nate diaz talks like a retarded baby

jaylons, yes it might die out soon, but don’t be a bitch and set up an opponent either by touching gloves then throwing a cheap shot.

aeet, yes he does talk like a retarded baby. lol. but the kid still has a damn good ground game.

Sunfish, I really don’t get what ur trying to say… if u were saying it wasn’t a good kick, then ok. But if ur saying it was okay for him to do that b/c it wasn’t a good kick, I have a big problem with that irrational logic

The bell had gone, ref had said fight… Manny is awesome, one of my favourites.. if you think he’s dirty you’ve got no idea

Manny is like karo expect he finishes

sunfish hero…The last thing you said I agree with you 100% but the first thing about a kick like that being a push kick is stupid!!!! Have you ever been kicked or even hit in the abdomen if hurts alot and can put you out of a fight in a instant. I do think it would be a good rematch with manny and diaz. I think diaz would take him again though.

For the record, McCarthy was hit in the solar plexus and got the wind knocked out of him, his rib didn’t break. If you read my post entirely, I said “Spinning back-kicks are a little more dangerous, if they hit the solar plexus…” As for other martial arts, other than Judo, I’ve studied Kyokushin Karate, BJJ and Greco Roman. Just because they teach you how to adapt in Judo, DOESN’T MAKE IT EASY! It didn’t say it was impossible, it’s just very difficult. They also teach you kicks and punches in Judo, are they good? No.

As for good ground skills, Manny has some fantastic ground skills, he completely controlled Nate Diaz on the ground for the first round of their fight and still had tons of gas in the tank. Not only is he capable of controlling a fighter with “great” ground skills, he also has some stand-up skills. Nate has nothing but BJJ, he’ll never do as well has his brother because he can’t strike to save his life. Compare him to Royce Gracie if you want, but Royce Gracie wouldn’t stand a chance in modern MMA unless he fought nothing but sub-par fighters and pure strikers. You know, kind of like Nate Diaz has been doing.

There’s no need to get nasty because your argument is weak and you take my statements out of context Kevin. I never once said Side-kicks and Spinning-back kicks didn’t hurt. I said Manny’s didn’t hurt his opponent, it him in his chest, on a muscle. It was surface pain at best and was completely masked by the adrenaline.

That’s what I’m talking about, you just made ton of assumptions about me as a person and me as an athlete. I have made no statements saying what I’ve done as a fighter. When I say I’ve studied those Martial arts, it means I’ve actually been at a school, trained and learned the style. I earned my Black belt in Kyokushin Karate, a brown belt in BJJ and Purple belt in Judo. You must know, as a blat belt in Judo, you can’t really gain a belt unless your compete, so to assume I’ve never competed was pretty odd to me. While I’ve never been in a MMA match I have been in plenty of grappling competitions, and full-contact Karate tournaments. which I’m not sure if you ever been in one of those, they don’t allow punches to the face, but everything else goes and it’s bare-knuckle. So I’ve been hit, plenty of times. Do you know what context is? I didn’t say my inflections were misunderstood, I’m saying you’re misinterpreting my words, not reading them completely, or not comprehending them. Then basing your argument off of your gross misunderstanding. One, I said MOSTLY push kick, which they are. Meant to knock you down, as a side kicks power come entirely from a single leg, and generally lands in the stomach. I guess it can do some damage if you catch one in the side of the ribs, but that is rarely the case and you’re almost always facing your opponent head on.

As for Diaz fighting great competition, who are you talking about? Alvin Robinson? Junior Assuncao? Yeah Top notch fighters there. 9-3 and 6-3. So those are record to back up their skills huh? These guy’s records are only 1 fight better than the guys Manny has fought. The best guy Diaz has fought is Pelligrino, and he sucks. Diaz completely lost the first round to this guy, and it actually looked like he threw the fight. He was in a safe position in the closed guard, then it looked like he intentionally put him self in position for the triangle, all Diaz did was lay there and throw a couple of punches from guard. Manny bulldogged and submitted both his opponents quickly and efficiently. I can’t wait till Diaz fights someone with skill, he’s going to have a crappy night.

Sorry, neither Junior Assuncao or Alvin Robinson have beaten people worth anything, so you sort of defeated your own point there. As for full-contact tournaments, no they’re not in a cage, but you get kicked, hard. Regardless of the atmosphere, they’re still athletes in peak physical condition. I’ve seen people crumple to a side kick, sure. But on average it’s an extremely unlikely scenario. I don’t mean to sound redundant, but you don’t seem to be catching it when I say it, FOR THE MOST PART, side kicks are push kicks. Not saying that’s all they’re capable of being, I’m saying that’s what they are mostly. Side kicks don’t use any kind of torque from your hips, it’s a lifting kick that is meant to take you off of your feet and knock you to the ground. Personally, I only ever used it in non-contact point tournaments as it has no place in full-contact being that it is ineffective as a damaging attack. Now, I’ve done Judo, BJJ and Kyokushin tournaments, so I’m not limited to Judo as you can hardly call those full contact.

I’m not sure what you mean by better defend my inflections and arguments, as I give an ample amount of evidence. I did go check the records of most of the opponents Diaz has fought and I’m thoroughly unimpressed. As for 3 losses and less than 10 wins being a poor record, I never said that, but it is certainly not great record. If anything they’re average, typical records you’ll find amongst most stepping stones in the UFC. Which is what they’ve been giving both Manny and Nate. I’d very much like to see if EITHER of them could handle a top 10 155er, like Guida or Griffon. Better yet, seeing as how I don’t think Huerta has been solidly challenged, why not a fight between Huerta and Diaz? Sounds like a main event to me as everyone loves those guys.

Anyway, I failed to see a point where I made myself SOUND dumb, as all of the evidence that you’ve attempted to use against me from my own posts ended up being you not fully reading or understanding the sentence. I’ve had a chance to have a friend read my posts to see if I made any of them unclear, he understood what I was saying perfectly and was also confused by your rebuttal. So I often wonder where some of your claims come from.

For the record, I never once thought of this as an offensive argument, more of a standard debate. Of course it has strayed far off topic. My original point was that Manny’s kick was hardly more classless than Diaz’s shameless taunting at the end of his fight. People celebrated Diaz’s behavior and were just appalled by Manny’s; it’s unfair and hypocritical.

One last thing, Cung Le’s record isn’t great? Last I checked he’s undefeated. Granted he has only 6 Pro-MMA fights, they don’t count the type of competitions he was doing before Pro-MMA, which some would say takes more skill. He did San Shou for several years where ground fighting is non-existent, but he was undefeated in that as well. I’d say his record speaks for itself. As it’s amazing. You can hardly compare Diaz’s competition to Cung Le.

wow many is a dirty lil bitch

KEVIN, READ MY WHOLE POST OR DON’T RESPOND TO IT.

I added on to my argument? I simply said I did full-contact tournaments, I said nothing as to the discipline. You just made an assumption that I only did Judo tournmanents. It’s not adding if I didn’t explain. I didn’t think I’d have to as you say you’re a martial artist. There’s no full-contact bare knuckle Judo or BJJ tournaments, as there’s no striking in grappling tournaments. So, there was only one other option. Apparently I gave you a little too much credit in thinking that you could figure that out for yourself. My mistake, I’ll try to dumb down my arguments for you.

So, Cung Le hasn’t fought good competition. Do you think you could take Frank Shamrock? Better yet, do you think you can take Cung Le? No, you haven’t fought at that level, cause who the hell has heard of you? Don’t compare yourself to him, you’re not famous, not even close. 4 out of the 6 opponents Cung Le has fought have over 20 pro fights, tons of experience. Anyway, who has Diaz fought? Or his opponents? Anyone at Shamrock’s level, Or Tony Fryklands? Or Sammy Morgan’s? Nope. Like I said, Cung Le hasn’t had that many MMA fights, but his San Shou record is something like 17-0. The man has had over 20 professional fights without a loss. So beyond his MMA career, his record is impressive, seems like you skipped another part of the post and based your argument off of a small portion of mine, once again.

My friend read my post because I was confused as to how you were having so much trouble understanding my arguments. I had him read it because he’s my proof-reader, you should get one, he reads my essays and and papers for school (Before you make an ass out of yourself again in assuming my age, they’re my undergrad classes.) to make sure they make sense. His job is too tell me whether or not I’m properly putting things together,and my arguments make sense and are properly supported; not to give me an ego boost. It’s why I ask him. He’s honest. At least I bother to proof read mine, especially when you insult my intelligence when your posts are barely understandable with the terrible punctuation, grammar, and run on sentences. I don’t want to hear the whole “I just don’t care” response, cause clearly you do.

As for kick to the jaw AFTER the fight? You’re putting Manny’s dirty kick on THAT level? In case you didn’t realize, Manny kicked his opponent DURING the match, not before or after, does the ref not say “Come out fighting, protect yourselves at all times” right at the beginning of the fight? It was fair, and legal. To say that you would have kicked him after the fight just shows your true nature.

You have yet to argue against my main point, Manny’s kick was dirty but fair, and certainly not more disdainful than Diaz’s arrogant taunting after sinking the submission. People’s approval of Diaz’s attitude, but distaste for Manny’s behavior is hypocritical.

Manny would get tooled by diaz….