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wcoastassassin Says, in 1-28-2013 at 16:39:07 from    

Glad he is talking about signing Josh Barnett. He stands up for Eddie Alvarez and says “Pay him what we would have” when he doesn’t have to and really has stuck by Rampage through all of his drama. Hate on Dana all you want, and I may not agree with every decision he makes, but he’s a hell of a lot better than most of our bosses. How many bosses go out and pay you above and beyond what you have earned? You think your not making them money? The Dana haters can shut the **** up.

Gt03champp Says, in 1-28-2013 at 19:04:28 from    

@ 10:25 Dana says “Brazil caught on fire”! that’s f***** up over 200 Brazilians died in that club.

Lazer212 Says, in 1-28-2013 at 19:53:27 from    

I like Dana but the way he defends Rousey is just ridiculous!! You are now stacking a card because you know if you don’t nobody is gonna watch your ignorant girlfriend fight. I have nothing against woman’s MMA but when someone with 6 career wins in a weak division decides to talk sh*t about GSP and Dan Henderson I have a problem. Ronda you would not be in the position your in without both those gentleman. Show some respect and maybe us fight fans will give you some.

mmafan1 Says, in 1-28-2013 at 21:09:20 from    

What a Load of Bull s*** by Dana…

[1] Dana / UFC screwed around with the Reebok sponsorship first nixing Rampages Sponsorship than going around behind his back and trying to cut a richer Deal using Rampage as Leverage,

[2] Giving Rampage the toughest Match-Up vs the Consensus No. 1 LHW Contender Glover who most other LHW DO NOT want to Fight,

[3] Dana / the UFC is Racist they give Ryan Bader a ‘White’ Fighter chance after chance with the easiest Match-up possible against an Over Hill Vlad (I am a Vlad Fan been watching him since the 90′s),

[4] Dana / the UFC use Rampage who is one of their biggest PPV Fan Draws thats why Dana / the UFC CASHED IN ON RAMPAGES LAST UFC FIGHT,

[5] There is a LOT MORE to the Rampage / UFC Story, Eddie Alveraz gets a ‘Matching Offer’ obviously the UFC Sells more PPV thus more Dollars for both the UFC and the Fighter vs Bellator,


… Thats Anti-Trade and MONOPOLIST!

[7] Dana hires and Promotes both ‘White’ Management and ‘White’ Fighter ‘Executives’ you can not find 1 Person of Color in the Senior Executive or Fighter Executives,…

… Meanwhile there is a 2 Term Black President, Black Coaches and Management in the NFL & NBA,


[9] All Fighters and they ALL have SHORTER Careers than EVEN NFL Players Should have a Collective Agreement and 50-50 Revenue Share like most major Leagues, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB!!!

Dana & the UFC by NOT have a structure like other major Sports leagues, NFL, MLB, NBA & NHL are RIPPING THE FIGHTERS OFF!!!

Its like SLAVERY all over again.

I’m a Fan of the Fighters and I Respect all of them I dislike the Slave Anti-Union Mentality of the Ferttitas, Dana & the U f Friggin C!

If you support & Respect Fighters Don’t Buy the UFC PPV UNTIL the UFC come into line with NFL, NBA, NHL & MLB!!!

Watch the Fights here on MMATKO instead of the UFC PPV!

MangyMongoose Says, in 1-28-2013 at 22:32:06 from    

Above post is lame, don’t bring racism into this discussion.

rightsaysfred Says, in 1-28-2013 at 22:48:15 from    

mmafan1, I don’t agree with all you have to say (how can you conclude that Dana is racist just because he f***** over a black fighter and there are no black execs – he f**** over lots of people and the demographic for mma is different than it is for basketball) – but you’re spot on about the fighters not getting a fair shake. These guys get paid s*** for putting their lives on the line.

Powertele Says, in 1-29-2013 at 00:01:52 from    

I do not know if you can call it racism. I believe it is more tribalism. Dana is a white guy from the east coast and he associates with those that are more like him. For example, he gave exec spots to Liddell and Hughes. I don’t think either guy is intelligent enough to help run a BILLION dollar company. Maybe they could balance it out by creating ethnic divisions within the company such as Brazilian execs and Russian execs and Japanese execs and African American execs for company relations. They also need a Mexican American liaison for the Velasquez lovers. I do believe the company is a little too white for it to be an exploding global sport. I like companies that diversify and provide representation for the people that support it. WALMART does it, why can’t the UFC?

Powertele Says, in 1-29-2013 at 00:08:32 from    

I gotta say this, it is important to have liaisons in the company that represent the different ethnic groups because Dana was saying how Rampage always was suspicious of them. This is something taught and learned in the black communities around the world. If Rampage had a black exec to relate to, he may have had a different view of the company. If anyone out there was born and raised in Memphis, Tennessee, the Southern United States like I was, you would understand. I am not having an MMA conversation here, it is a sociology conversation which is very interesting. Please be understanding and respond with respect.

SHOGUNRUA Says, in 1-29-2013 at 02:42:30 from    

Mmafan1 you are so off from the truth with your statements.
First of all, when your starting out a business there are alot of risks involved. I’m not even gonna bother getting into that. But if it wasn’t for the UFC, these fighters would go from promotions to promotions. Wouldn’t it be better to have a monoply over this market so they can compete against other sports entertainment like Basketball. Also, do you know how much money goes into marketing for these fighters. Sure it might not go directly to the fighter, but on the other hand it will increase their stock as a fighter. On top of that, when your company is trying to grow, and at the rate the UFC is aiming at, ur gonna need alot of money to fuel that beast. So stop complaining… hate ppl who just complain and only see one side of the picture

DavidJones Says, in 1-29-2013 at 02:53:50 from    

dana hates the foreign fighters. like bigfoot, getting number 1 contender(cain valesquez) for debut?.(unheard of, unless u come as champ)?!?!Also shogun, gustavson, wanderlei, and every foreigh out there dana screws in match making, and now he serves him to overeem(number 1 heavyweiht)knowing that bigfoot is the only one who can derail overeem and prevent him from beating the pride an djoy of mexico. dana only care about money, he destroyed pride, strikeforce, and more, but for frank mir or lesnar or tito or other f***** fighter he’ll give them anything, he probebly want lesnar in the ufc hall of fame, dana is terrible for the sport and anyone thinks that dana gives a F*** about anyone is an idiot..only money hes a vegas thug, thats it.he should run a casino, not be involved in sport,

^^^^ Says, in 1-29-2013 at 05:02:16 from    

Dana is making the UFC sound like they are the good guys, which is bull s***. We all know how the UFC does thing. They say this to your face and will do whatever they want behind your back. They favour certain fighters and if you choose not to do something they want, guess what? They will fire your ass! Remember what happened with Jon Fitch and the THQ UFC video game? How about when Miguel Torres got fired for quoting a r*** joke from a TV show he was watching? Now, I’m not defending his actions, but Forrest did the same thing. Then Dana also made a damn r*** joke about men being r**** in prison. That’s ridiculous, if you want to talk about facts, men get r**** more than women if you include prison.

Powertele Says, in 1-29-2013 at 10:08:05 from    

One thing I think we have to remember is that Dana does not make the money, the fighters do. Dana kicks back, parties and the fighters lose their minds and bodies so that the UFC can make another BILLION dollars. Dana does work hard but we could all do his job if we had slight intelligence. Joe Silva is the fight maker, there are teams of media people that promote the fights. TUF was dying until now that FOX reimagined it and gave it a storyline besides the silly ass Real World stuff that was occurring. I concur, the fighters need way more money because they are fighting several times a year. Also, if the fighters had better money, they could train better and produce better performances. That is how Mayweather does it, he has money to train like the greatest even though he is great.

JO Says, in 1-29-2013 at 11:48:58 from    

The revenue sharing thing is a huge issue. Screw boxing, that model is corrupt and results in top guys avoiding each other. The sports league model is better, where top teams/fighters via for the championship. A monopoly is better as well, as that way you get to see the top talent compete.

The real difference is that with the NBA, NFL and other sports monopolies the federal government has issued a special exemption from antitrust laws. With that exemption comes certain duties and restrictions, some of which allow for player’s unions and the revenue sharing.

ktktk Says, in 1-29-2013 at 12:51:19 from    


If you believe you can do what Dana White does prove it! 99% of people would quit after day one. Like most execs, that guy works harder than most of us. It’s not like he does everything that makes the company run but if you understood even a little about running a business you wouldn’t say some of the things you just said.

Also, how do you figure getting paid more will enable people to train better? Yes, getting paid enough to not have to have a second job will make an enormous difference. But if I can afford multiple cars and a fancy house (which many fighters have), how do I not have enough money to train hard? You really think Mayweather has a better gym than the top mma guys have? Have you watched any videos of Pretty Boy training?

gene labelle Says, in 1-29-2013 at 15:50:16 from    

@mma fan 1


mmafan11 Says, in 1-29-2013 at 15:50:35 from    

Monopolies are Anti-Trust & Illegal in the USA unless you have an exempted league like the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB.

Dana / UFC are NOT fairly sharing the Revenue made of the Fighters Lives & Health!

The ONLY Fair Solution is a structure of about 50-50 Revenue Share like the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB!

Unfair NO Revenue Share $$$…

I have been following the UFC not just as a Fan but as a professional sports bettor since UFC 1 & Royce Gracie.

To be successful over a long time you need proper Risk Analysis & Information into the Fighters situations & how and why match-ups are made.

I run my own business in Software which I grew from 1 to over 300 employees.

I fully understand the Ins & Outs of Pro Sports.

I also call a spade a spade the UFC are RIPPING the Fighters Off by NOT having a League Structure like the NFL, NHL, MLB & NBA.

There are NO Pensions after Fighters retire most will suffer Early Dementia ala NFL Players from concussions.

There are NO Health Care Plan once fighters leave or Retire from the UFC.

The UFC / Dana use the Fighters milk them for the highest Dollar $$$ than DUMP Them like Rampage than on to the next up & coming fighters. Rinse Repeat.

The Match-ups & Revenue Share should be taken out of the UFC / Danas hands like the Leagues, NFL etc where the team / fighters that win get the Championship Match.

The Revenue should be Shared evenly!

Both Fighters & Fans Deserve better, much better.

Until than I watch fights on sites like MMATKO I Boycott UFC PPV and & don’t go to Live UFC Events.

There are many more responsible consumers like me.

ultimate fighter Says, in 1-29-2013 at 17:29:29 from    

Some really good debate, however some of the statements made are pure ignorance. Before you can make statements about wages and whats fair you have to understand even the basics of supply and demand, than the risks costing, and revenue streams involved in a business as complex as the UFC. statements like its a billion dollar business dont actually make any sense, affliction had plenty of billon dollar backers. The fact that the UFC is a monopoly is because no one else is able to replicate what they do and stay profitable (otherwise they would) captialism 101.

And the racism LOL….. ok

mmafan11 Says, in 1-29-2013 at 19:26:27 from    

Its ignorant to say that the UFC is so special that you can’t compare it to other Sports Leagues or Business.

First the UFC is a Business just as the NFL, NBA, NHL & MLB are.

The UFC EXCEEDS Billion Dollar Company Valuation as the Company that has Monopoly Share in its sector just as other Leagues are far in Excess of A Billion Dollar valuation.

A Monopoly will and does screw up BOTH Supply & Demand thats why they are mostly illegal via Anti – Trust Law, the UFC faces little Risk today.

The UFC bought out their strongest competitor Strike Force & had the power…

(i) Take Fighters over to the UFC GUTTING Strikeforce

(ii) to shut it down by not Agreeing to Fund it any further AFTER they got most of the Best Fighters & left the 20+ year Strikeforce a shell of its former self.

Funny how Strikeforce grew for 20+ years until the UFC got their dirty hands on them.

Funny hows theres no more Strikeforce AFTER the UFC took their fighters.

Thats MONOPOLY 101.

@ ultimate fighter Don’t confuse a Billion Dollar Valuation for Billion Dollar Backers.

What Risk Costing are you talking about? Define it or is it just a fancy term you read in a text book? lol

The UFC had First Mover advantage with DEEP Pockets (the Fertitas)

THe UFC have systematically bought out their strongest Competitors with the HIGHEST PUBLIC DEMAND / PROFILE FIGHTERS! PRIDE, STRIKEFORCE etc.

Therefore its these Fighters who really make the UFC a commercial success and they should reap a FAIR SHARE like most other Major Sports Leagues, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB.

Risk Costing & (Monopoly) Revenue Streams my ASS!

DaBigFish Says, in 1-30-2013 at 00:04:24 from    

WTF, everyone! Chill out and stop placating a troll, or whatever. Move on.

Face Stab Says, in 1-30-2013 at 05:20:08 from    

Only a moron believes the only reason the UFC bought Strikeforce was to gut it to kill competition.

If you’re going to comment on things, at least know the basic background behind them. Strikeforce was sold by its majority stakeholder who wanted out of the business. The UFC was sole principal interested party. Strikeforce was brought down by poor management more than anything else. Their failed copromotion with M-1 and the Fedor deal.

The bottom line is, the UFC has been federally investigated for being a monopoly and determined not to be. I’d say that investigation outweighs the opinion of the Internet wise guy.

So perhaps First Semester Monopoly isn’t good enough, and you need to go back and take the upper division Monopoly 524.

mmafan11 Says, in 1-30-2013 at 15:04:39 from    

Only a moron believes that the UFC bought Strikeforce NOT to kill competition.

Strikeforce lost it’s primary financial backers who owned an NHL Hockey team.

The UFC saw an opportunity to buy the second largest MMA Company and a viable competitor to the UFC.

This is Business 101 buy out competing Brands/Company’s to protect your MARKET SHARE! It’s also Anti-Trade and Anti-Competition.

Business does not like or encourage Competition.

The UFC than bought Strikeforce,the UFC than transferred fighters to the UFC.

THe UFC GUTTED Strikeforce and hastened it’s closure.

Only a Moron would believe the UFC did not screw over Strike Force. Just like the buyout of Pride.

Again Strikeforce was fine for 20+ years UNTIL THE UFC GOT DONE WITH IT NOW IT NO LONGER EXISTS!

The UFC for all practical purposes is a MONOPOLY.

Again for the Moron Face Stab here is an quote from the FTC ruling…

“This action is not to be construed as a determination that a violation may not have occurred…”

The investigation attempted to determine whether Zuffa violated “Section 7 of the Clayton Act or Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act” when it purchased Strikeforce this past March, the letter stated.

Section 7 of the Clayton Act addresses business monopolies while section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act addresses unfair or deceptive business practices.

“This action is not to be construed as a determination that a violation may not have occurred, just as the pendency of an investigation should not be construed as a determination that a violation has occurred,” the letter stated. “The Commission reserves the right to take such further action as the public interest may require.”

The fact remains fighters do NOT have a fair Revenue Share nor Medical or Pension Protection once they retire or leave the UFC like other sports leagues the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL.

Only a Moron would argue against a equal share and fighter protection for a league structure like the NFL etc.


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