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Kruck’s Korner Goes To The Gracie Museum In California

Posted By: Bruno Published in Fight Shows, Fighter Talk

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Renner Gracie, an instructor at the Gracie Academy, recounts the origins of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, as well as the famed Gracie Challenge matches that originated in Brazil.

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jakelo Says, in 6-11-2009 at 21:23:50 from 88.171.239.67

There should be a Ken Shamrock museum with steroids and suffs like that.

paddedummy Says, in 6-11-2009 at 21:25:08 from 96.20.145.49

The Gracies didn’t invent or “improve” shit! That’s why Helio got his arm broken by Kimura and why Shammy busted Royce in the face causing his eye to swell up like a grapefruit, then Ken took a nap on him for the rest of that fight

reddhelium Says, in 6-11-2009 at 21:59:54 from 98.235.154.42

excellent post. thanks

HaVoK Says, in 6-11-2009 at 22:35:20 from 207.68.119.33

Good stuff. Although, the best way for the smaller person to win in a real street fight for you life is to use a .45cal semi automatic.

Term Says, in 6-11-2009 at 22:36:58 from 98.220.225.154

Nice, I enjoyed that.

Mitch Rapp Says, in 6-11-2009 at 23:31:35 from 24.118.243.30

War Helio Gracie!!!

MMAman Says, in 6-12-2009 at 01:21:04 from 66.108.209.67

I love it how the Gracies stole Jiu-Jitsu from the Japanese and just put a “Brazilian” in front of it and then took all the credit for it.

Principal Skinner Says, in 6-12-2009 at 09:42:35 from 76.69.71.201

I didn’t know that was the origins of the UFC…very cool.

MMAMessiah Says, in 6-12-2009 at 11:06:40 from 66.60.145.16

MMAman you are an idiot. Japanese Jiu Jitus was just a slight variation of Judo. BJJ is not the same thing, it is a modified and improved form of the art. Much more practical, much more usefull. I assume you don’t have any background in BJJ.

cowboychiro Says, in 6-12-2009 at 11:07:57 from 63.245.162.82

I am all for a Bob Sapp museum. Complete with his workout videos on a continued loop.
http://www.mmatko.com/bob-sapp-japanese-workout-video-beastbeat/ …… just a reminder

Goro Says, in 6-12-2009 at 11:44:29 from 77.227.237.89

Japanese Jiu Jitus just a variation of Judo. BJJ is much more practical, much more real.

B:J:J !!!!!!

hldn1977 Says, in 6-12-2009 at 14:02:37 from 71.236.142.208

I remember reading an article about the inception of the UFC and how Big John actually wanted to fight as a representative of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, but like Renner said, Royce was smaller and less impressive looking. Renzo Gracie=Legacy is another good insight into the history of this. I think Gracie Jiu-Jitsu embodies the basic element of all martial arts, adapt a system that works for each individual.

Great Post Bruno, you the man!

DeLaSeoul87 Says, in 6-12-2009 at 14:15:27 from 69.14.19.234

Most of the above posters are wrong.

Japanese Jujutsu is basically the grandfather of all modern Asian grappling.

Jigoro Kano created Judo by essentially removing every Jujutsu technique that relied on brute strength. He called this new form “Judo” which means “Ju” – Gentle, “Do” Way. Jigoro Kano also derived some of his throws from western style wrestling.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (aka Gracie Jiu-Jitsu) was “created” when a Japanese Judoka (”Judo player”- someone who practices Judo) named Mitsuyo Maeda came to Brazil. Maeda trained directly under Jigoro Kano in Kodokan Judo, and was one of his best students- specializing in newaza (ground work).

Maeda in turn agreed to train Helio and Carlos Gracie in Kodokan Judo, as a favor to their father, Gastao Gracie. Helio Gracie being very small and frail, focused on newaza, as he lacked the strength to execute many of the throws, and thus “created” Gracie Jiu-Jitsu.

Basically, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is Judo newaza. As both a Judoka and a practitioner of BJJ, I can honestly say that I’ve seen no difference in the techniques of Judo newaza and BJJ.

Note that Maeda never studied Japanese Jujutsu- only Sumo and Kodokan Judo. Therefore, it is fair to say that BJJ evolved directly from Kodokan Judo, and not Jujutsu. Furthermore, BJJ seems to be closely related to Kosen Judo, which was a school of Judo that focused primarily on newaza. Kodokan Judo differs from Kosen Judo because of rules set in place that force the players to use all aspects of the game, instead of just newaza (that is, throws, clinching, and newaza).

The only major difference between Kodokan Judo and BJJ is that Kodokan Judo does not allow attacks on the legs for safety reasons, although leg locks, knee bars, heel hooks, etc. are still practiced in Kata. Judo allows attacks on the elbow and shoulder joints, as well as chokes/strangles on the neck.

Hope that clears things up.

DeLaSeoul87 Says, in 6-12-2009 at 14:17:50 from 69.14.19.234

Or if you don’t feel like reading my above post:

Jujutsu -> Kodokan/Kosen Judo -> BJJ
(Japan) (J. Kano/Maeda) (Maeda/H. Gracie)

stu11 Says, in 6-12-2009 at 16:05:56 from 70.156.124.212

What a perfect well spoken, articulate representative for the Gracie family!

Robert Says, in 6-13-2009 at 07:41:18 from 68.229.23.159

im reading this Comments and man! most of the people dont know the History of Jujutsu.

Jujutsu was first developed by the Samurai around the 14th century but start to be call it Jujutsu around the 17th century.
Kanō Jigorō (founder of judo) wished to be stronger (at that time he was small boy 5 feet 2, 90 pounds) Nakai Baisei member of the shogun’s guard showed Kanō a few techniques by which a smaller man might overcome a larger and stronger opponent. Kanō decided to learn the art eventually develope Judo.
Kanō judo was more emphasis in nage-waza and break the posture of the opponent.
Tsunejiro Tomita (4th dan the first Kodokan judoka and close friend of Kano Jigoro was also the smallest teacher in the school) teach juto to Mitsuyo Maeda (who was also a small guy)
Mitsuyo Maeda (Japanese judōka and prizefighter in no holds barred competitions) move and naturalized Brazilian.
Maeda won more than 2,000 professional fights in his career. His accomplishments led to him being called “The toughest man who ever lived” and is referred to as the father of Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and pro-MMA.
Carlos Gracie—14 year old decided to learn judo (also known at the time as “Jiu-Jitsu” or “Kano Jiu-Jitsu”.) Maeda accepted Carlos as a student, and Carlos went on to become a great exponent of the art and ultimately, with his younger brother Hélio Gracie became the founder of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu start from Kanō Jigorō (Jujutsu, judo) who was a small guy that teach to Tsunejiro Tomita (kano-judo) who was also a small guy that teach to Mitsuyo Maeda (Kano Jiu-Jitsu) who was also a small guy that teach to Carlos and heilo (Gracie Jiu-Jitsu) who was also a small guy.
all this start and still teach that in judo(Jujutsu) size is not important.

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