Comments on: Jon Jones Hopes To Fight Dan Henderson Next Bout

By: PullGuardTard

PullGuardTard — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:29:20 +0000

He want’s no part of Hendo, what else is there to say?

By: Swordsmansmith

Swordsmansmith — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:25:37 +0000

Let me explain it for all the non jiu jitsu practicing keyboard ninja’s out there. Vitor could not finsih that armlock because the angle was wrong. He pop’d jones arm and that was as far as he could hyper extend it. Jones then fought on with at the very least snapped tendons in his elbow and submits Vitor. It had nothing to do with Vitor relaxing the pressure when he felt Jones arm pop. He couldnt finish that armlock even if he wanted to.

By: ruger1

ruger1 — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:56:59 +0000

Dana you have to make JJ, and AS happen before AS retires..

By: keulniss

keulniss — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:58:27 +0000

@facefrack, thank you and I agree with what you’ve said as well (except AS coming to Jackson’s lol). Excellent point about GSP vs AS being a much more competitive fight than AS vs JJ. I also think that AG and GT are the best fights for JJ right now.

By: keulniss

keulniss — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:49:12 +0000

@Goomba, First off, when I said shorter, I meant in all areas, which includes reach. Therefore I agree that 2 inches in height is not a big difference but 7 inches in reach is.
The word inferior simply means worse, as in AS’s wrestling is worse than JJ’s. This is a well accepted fact and should not need further discussion, and you should actually not be in this debate with ME. I have not coached them in a wrestling competition, I have simply used my eyes while watching them fight many opponents. But since you are hard pressed to admit that there is a significant talent gap in this discipline, I will explain. JJ has shown very impressive wrestling in all of his fights, including dominating that aspect against excellent former accomplished wrestlers such as RE, RB, VM, and MH to name just a few. This is a very big deal and is no small feat. AS, on the other hand, has shown in the past that he can be outwrestled from even sub par competition such as lutter (and others) and taken down in his career numerous times. This is partly due to him being comfortable on his back, but the fact remains that if he has but one “weakness”, it is wrestling.
I’d like to add that I think AS’s wrestling has actually improved in the last year or two, probably due to CS vs AS I (I know CS cheated but it was probably still the reason AS worked on it). But even after much practice, by no means would he be near JJ’s level in that area.
So yes, it is obvious to everyone logical that AS’s wrestling is inferior to JJ’s (recall the definition from above).
I agree that JJ typically doesn’t like to shoot, he uses a greco-style clinch instead. He is also a smart fighter from a smart camp who like a solid gameplan. Although I think he would make a competitive fight on the feet, I think he would rather get it to the ground where I think he would have a significant advantage (why risk it?).
I also agree that AS is quicker (slightly) and more fluid (matrix s***), as well as AS having more KO power and JJ being stronger.
The main factor is the wrestling. The smaller, shorter, and weaker parts are just a bonus sprinkled on top that makes me think JJ would win.

By: facefrack

facefrack — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:16:07 +0000

i’m pretty sure that keulniss is the only person on this thread with any kind of developed eye for this sport. First, there is no such thing as an invincible fighter; Bones could lose to Anderson, Bones could lose to Machida, or any other top-notch fighter, but he hasn’t lost to anyone because the mixture of his skillsets, his work ethic n his size make him a beast. Bones has stuffed every takedown attempt that anyone has thrown at him n has, i believe, either the highest, or the second highest takedown percentage in his own right. Almost everyone that he has gone to the ground with has been pummeled til the ref stopped it. Apart from the 15 seconds that Vitor maintained that armbar n about 2 minutes in the first round against Machida, he hasn’t even really seen adversity, even though he’s fought former champions for his last five fights. While he doesn’t have one punch knock-out power (at least we have yet to see it) he does have some of the most creative striking skills of any fighter, n assuming he doesn’t have to sit out for months, he will continue to expand his repertoire. Anderson Silva is one of my favorite fighters (watch “Anderson Silva Highlights 2012″ on youtube), but Bones would most likely ragdoll him to the ground n elbow him repeatedly. Anderson vs. GSP, on the other hand, would be a great fight, because GSP’s takedowns n ground control are both excellent, but he is smaller than Chael, which would give Anderson a better shot at keeping the fight where he wanted it. GSP is also much more technically sound than Chael with his submission defenses. What i think would really be awesome would be if Bones could get Silva to come n spend some time training at Jackson’s camp, so that he could sponge some of Anderson’s knowledge. While Hendo’s right hand could knock almost anyone out, everyone knows it, especially Jon Jones who would likely circle right n keep distance until Hendo grew confused by all of the push kicks n jabs from the outside. IMO, the best LHW fights for Jones at the moment are Alexander Gustafsson n Glover Teixeira. Gustafsson’s height might neutralize one of Jon’s biggest advantages n Glover’s all-around toughness makes him a force to be reckoned with.

By: p***********

p*********** — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:23:15 +0000

you guys are all f****** idiots… “more power/technique when cranking the arm”
take a bjj class instead of sitting in your chair being a useless, fat retard

By: wow

wow — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:38:16 +0000

@david jones
HE HAD A BROKEN ARM YOU STUPID LITTLE FOOL

By: anderson cheats

anderson cheats — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:35:54 +0000

Jon Jones would Smash anderson,he would take him down and elbow him into submission.

By: Dana "f******" White

Dana "f******" White — Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:15:26 +0000

wcoastassassin No, you’re just f****** delusional. Just like all the haters. Say whatever you guys want, he’s the best out there, and he’s beaten every opponent he’s faced. Prominent opponents. Who cares about what he thinks and how he is? He comes to fight, what the F***. Why is everyone getting their panties all in a bunch just because he doesn’t act the way you want him to. He goes in and he fights. He’s always mentally and physically prepared. He’s a fighter. End of story.