HomeFighter Talk Jon Fitch Talks About UFC Fight Purses And Fighter Pay, And Where It Goes Bruno June 10, 2013 Fighter Talk 36 Comments Video Of Jon Fitch Talking About UFC Fight Purses And Fighter Pay, And Where It Goes. xml feed Tweet Pin It Tags:Jon Fitch Related Posts Fighter Talk TUF 14 Post Fight Interviews – Winning Fighters Part 2 By Bruno Dec 12, 2011 Fighter Talk MMA Fighting’s Esther Lin Discusses Her Favorite Photo... By Bruno Oct 10, 2012 Fight Shows Guys Book Club – Episode Clay Guida Slaps A Bitch By Bruno Apr 4, 2013 36 Comments dude June 10, 2013 Why so many edits? petepetro June 10, 2013 Imagine how much he could have made if he actually finished a fight before descision anakonda June 10, 2013 There are guys who train the their asses off and get 5000,- pay per fight, after all taxes and expenses they probably have to take loan to be part of UFC… It’s a shame how low the payments are, it’s the fighters profession. UFC gives the champions ok money just to hold the image, otherwise it’s a rip off of the workers, just like everything else is nowadays… The only purpose of a corporation (UFC) is to make profit for the owners, that’s how business is and surely UFC is no different, if anything, it’s one of the most greediest. dragoman June 10, 2013 good dude, much respect. wcoastassassin June 10, 2013 This guy is about as entertaining as a bowl of rice crispies before you put the milk in. That’s why he is not in the UFC anymore. That being said, he should be worried about money, the fighters should try to get everything they can, it’s a short career. UFC has all the time in the world to make money and takes advantage of fighters spirit who say things like “I just want to be the best, it’s not about the money.” It better be about the money because when your crippled at 40 going down as a good fighter isn’t going to pay the bills. John will unquestionably have to get a real job when he leaves MMA and his skill set will be limited. B-Real June 10, 2013 UFC has crazy expenses and taxes to pay too, so stop complaining about making over $100k a year fighting. He’s never been champ, nor is he a knockout artist, so as good as he is and high ranked he “was”, he wasn’t a big enough draw for UFC to negotiate more money. I really think Jon Fitch is a dangerous and amazing fighter, but to put a hate vid out on the company “YOU” chose to work for is bogus. Why didn’t he leave if he was so unhappy? What, it takes twelve years to make that decision? UFC is a business and if you don’t like what their pay structure is, don’t work for them. We all have choices to make, but don’t bash the company you worked for because of your income negotiating skills or lack there of… Sorry Jon, it’s life… jasonfn22 June 10, 2013 monopoly,that’s how they work when workers have no choices the company can treat people and pay people whatever they want. even a fighters union would not work at this time because their is not enough choices in promotions who can afford to pay these guys what they deserve and lets face it Jon Fitch has probably spent at least half if not more of his earnings and his career is already against the ropes unless he buckles down and dedicates his life again which is hard when your married with children so when they talk about so and so retiring lol they are sugar coating it because that guy will either fall back on his education or he is f_ucked one of the 2.They don’t even make enough to reinvest unless your GSP so this glamorous fighting shit is not so glamorous until they can make boxer money and still you have to be at the very top. Wimpy June 10, 2013 UFC needs to go union… c hill June 10, 2013 petepetro.. not only is that comment pathetic, its embarrassing and something dana would say so he gets paid; you do not get paid for saying that however.. Every fighter has a weakness. Even Gsp can be criticized for the same critique dumb shit. that’s absolutely 100 percent beside the point. He said he was getting paid more than most fighters, which is absolutely true! Look at NFL, Look at NBA, Look at the major sports leagues. Dana always says these fighters are doing extremely well so they don’t disclose? maybe they don’t disclose cause they’re afraid of being on Dana’s bad side.. interesting how so many fighters come clean once they know they won’t be dependent on the ufc?.. its not just those who get kicked out of the ufc who feel the need to say something, its hall of famers.. So who’s he (mr president) referring to that makes so much money?? Anderson silva, Gsp? just the champions?? Hmm… Jon fitch, Ramage Jackson, Randy couture, Ken shamrock, etc etc etc. they must all be liars. Fitch should be set for life off his fighting work alone. Clearly he is not RickJames June 10, 2013 You have to agree with Fitch. Compared to other “Professional” sports UFC fighters don’t make crap. I think if youre (at least) ranked in the top 10 you should make enough to retire very comfortably on. They should pay their top ten guys between 2-5 million per fight (if not more…) Joe Dog June 10, 2013 Fitch’s pay was Sonnened. Cheard1 June 10, 2013 Dana is the one that started all of the money talk. He posted a video about Jon Fitch’s money. Jon didn’t want to get cut or complain about fighting for the UFC. They didn’t want to continue to pay him what he was making. He never asked for more. Hell he didn’t even know he was cut until the UFC posted it on the internet. I have to say though that Jon Fitch is a very rude guy in person. My son (11@ the time) and I met him at a Fan Expo. He was at a sponsor’s booth and acted like he didn’t even want to sign a shirt for my son. He was cut because he is not a fan likeable person. Ozinator June 10, 2013 @jasonfn22, It’s no accident that your opinion is held by many people. It’s been conditioned into our psyche by our rulers and their media to think of ourselves as individuals. Union busting is solidarity busting so that workers can be exploited and it’s not just limited to an actual organization that is unionized; it applies too to things like fighting that were never unionized because the options of getting paid doing anything else are also limited by this mass exploitation. Look at all the incestuous relationships that guys like the Fertitas have with their partners…that’s a union too! The rulers ARE unionized and invest a great amount into getting victims to yell at other victims to negotiate on their own or get a different job. “Rugged individualism” is a scam DeLaSeoul87 June 10, 2013 There are 3 main reason IMO why fighter pay has remained so low: (1) UFC fighters being non-unionized and not have an association to represent them during contract negotiations with the organization; (2) INEPT managers representing UFC fighters – I guaranty you that 90% of them have no concept of upside/downside contractual protection. Most of these guys would be better represented by Hollywood managers who know the ins and outs of negotiating contracts. An example of upside protection is getting a cut of the PPV. The better the promotion does, the better you do. Downside protection would be a guaranteed minimum salary (the fact that the UFC gets away with paying guys $2,000 to fight is f’ing absurd). Finally, (3) the Fertitta Bros. and Dana White doing a masterful job of obfuscation and “the big lie” – telling a lie so many times that it becomes the truth. If the numbers ever get out in the open, they will face massive backlash for their exploitation. jdogg June 10, 2013 Bruno, where are the UFC on fuel videos? Bruno: not sure if Im going to promote UFC stuff anymore. Just about had enough of all their crap. DaMilkman June 10, 2013 Everybody keeps addressing Fitch like he’s “complaining” but he’s merely setting the record straight. Dana chose to put numbers out there sharing “private business” because the press stirred it up enough to make him think Fitch was moaning about low pay (he never once mentioned pay in the WSOF presser). Unfortunately for the great White Shark he put out false info & so now we’re getting to find out more truth. There must be a reason fighters talk more AFTER getting cut as a pose to possibly upsetting their boss while employed. I think Fitch is an honest guy just trying to make sure he gets his fair dues & this is the only way he can make sure his fans know what’s up. Remember he’s cut so why would he need to lie?… Dana on the other hand has a reputation/business to uphold… sort of glassjoe June 10, 2013 Bruno, didn’t Fitch get cut a few years back because he didn’t agree with the use of his “name and image” for a UFC video game. Then when he agreed was right back with them. Bruno: correct. WTF June 10, 2013 I am not a big fan of his fight style, but I really respect him as a fighter and as a person. The UFC is just way too greedy. Something should be done for the sake of those athletes who put it all on the line. I mean one unlucky punch/kick/sub/poke you name it and you might be done. Prorok June 10, 2013 So lets say after all he got 100K a year, that’s pretty cool if you ask me. I’ve been working since I was 18, I’ve never made a 100k in one year. I’m happy for that guy. That’s a cool amount to have in a year, would be my dream really. Jdogg June 10, 2013 Wow Bruno. I realize this isn’t the place to discuss, but what the heck happened? Not having UFC vids on here would really hurt the traffic on this site. Bruno: It would drop traffic by half at least. There is a lot more going on in the world that gets much less attention. When I do a site redesign I might just drop the UFC all together. Not sure yet. Twana June 10, 2013 Take Dana mother fucker white and his whole crew to court. Sue those motherfuckers… They are using fighters hard work to get filthy rich. Ground St. Pound June 10, 2013 @Prorok: I would like to make 100k too. But I’m sure I don’t have the discipline it takes to work day in and out at the gym to a level that would take me to where Jon got to off of his own hard work. If I’m making even a quarter or an eighth of what he makes, I think that’s a fiscal crime. Training to be a professional fighter, esp. at Fitch’s level, is not 4 times harder than my work. There is a reason they are the best in the world at what they do. In what other job can you be televised and the best in the world, working for the premiere company in the world in that field and get 100K per year? I’m good at what I do, but not the best in the world and not in the premiere company in my field. If I was, I’d be making far more than 100K! And my job doesn’t have PPV. Ground St. Pound June 10, 2013 For, the record, I get paid a good amount more than half of that 100k I’m talking about, and I think he should be making at least 8 times that. He means a lot more to a lot more ppl in his job than I do in mine. He doesn’t have to get millions per fight but how can Fitch be fighting in the UFC for less than 500K per fight? Because there are so many other starving fighters who are almost as good to replace him with. Only because of that. tkou June 10, 2013 bruno, so you may not be putting up any more UFC fights going forward? that’s ashamed but we respect your decision. InvisibleKnives June 10, 2013 He obviously does not understand that there is value in a brand and HUGE inve$tment needed to make a brand an industry leader. You reap what you sow. ThrowDownthenHoDown June 10, 2013 Bruno, exactly what “crap” are you referring too? the only thing that annoys me about the ufc is they allow steroid cheats (or trt…whatever u wanna call it) as there were no cheats on this passed card I was willing to watch and it was a great card. Bruno: It’s a long list that I don’t want to go into but I got some info from a big MMA camp manager that is a friend. And he gave me a copy of there latest polices added to all new fighter contracts and sponsor restrictions. There are some new things I just can’t get over. ThrowDownthenHoDown June 10, 2013 Also if more of the 200 million americans (or whatever it is) watched and suported a real sport like mma instead of boring shit like baseball and nascar, or even the most pathetic “sport” on the planet, NFL, the fighters could make what they deserve. I also think that their lower payments are a form of psychology. I mean really, a milionaire rolling in cash is less likely to fight like his life depends on it. glassjoew June 10, 2013 100k is good amount of money but when you are an athlete you have a small window to make your money. Unlike a majority of us who make the most we will make in our 40’s, 50’s, and 60’s. These guys need to make as much as they can. These guys do choose on how to make their living but how long after the career will they be dealing with the effects. Concussions, severe back pain, etc… Since the UFC signed with FOX I thought the money would improve for the fighters but seems that it hasn’t. Very few will have Chuck Lidell and Matt Hughes positions once they retire…….. I am not for unions but these guys do need more respect. Especially when they put their physical well being on the line. The least they could do is help their financial well being. shocktime June 10, 2013 100K a year is pathetic for what they do. And that 100k a year is mid tier or higher UFC pay? So a guy like Mark Munoz, Erick Silva, Pat Barry, etc etc….are probably making 60K a year? Surely there’s even more popular names making like 40k a year. I make more than those guys! I always thought Rampage was baby, but more fighters with different personality’s makes me think he’s just telling it like it is. marvelous mad madam mim June 10, 2013 boohoo gas station workers get paid nothing but i dont hear anyone complaining about all the billions Exxon is making. JustSayin June 11, 2013 We all know fighters don’t get paid enough. By the time all the fighters take a stand the ufc already made enough money to do what ever they want. Ufc already made enough, and will continue to do so until the shit hits the fan. freakin brilliant! Ufc is like the government. Total control of everything and everyone… rockstarzee June 11, 2013 Bruno I am very sad to hear you might not be posting UFC anymore. But if you decided to stop, thanks for all the ones you did rockstarzee June 11, 2013 @ throwdownthenhodown yea i feel ya, keep em hungry. that’s why bellator and strikeforce fights tended to be more exciting. straightAhead June 11, 2013 Classic Pimp and Ho relationship. The Ho (fighters) dont know their real value so they willingly work for peanuts hoping to please and not piss off their Pimp (Dana). Dana knows that the Ho just wants to fight the best and will likely do it for free so thats exactly why they get paid so little compared to other major sports. The difference is that other major sports are more mature and the athletes and agents and unions are wise enough to keep their athletes from Ho-ing themselves out on the cheap. The UFC fighters are not that wise as yet and most will keep quiet risking their health and taking fights on short notice etc just to not piss off Dana the Pimp. The sad part is that most Corporations are like this. They want the avg worker to feel threatened and expendable so that way they will be happy to get whatever little they are getting for fear of being replaced. I have been on both sides by being a regular employee and eventually being an executive. The reality is that as a regular employee you get the shaft. And the politics suck! Thats way at the end of the day im running my own small company to avoid being someones Ho! – LOL baller June 11, 2013 Ufc fighters r getting raped that’s it tesla Coil June 11, 2013 The funny thing is that Fitch NEVER even talks about taxes or even off the books PPV bonus money etc… The fact of the matter is a lot of the fighters live and die by the PPV numbers. If you notice, the fighters never (and they are not supposed to) disclose non reported BONUS money, but that is the MAIN source of their income. While Fitch is a beast (whether you like his lay and pray style or not), but let’s not feel too sorry for him before you actually look at the REAL numbers. It is a well know FACT among fighters at HIS level that the actual majority of pay is from the PPV percentage ALL fighters on the main even participate in. What fitch disclosed is the PUBLIC numbers which is very MISLEADING. Regardless of if I respect his work ethic or not, facts are I have to call BS here. He neglected to report all the PPV money HE MADE during his 18 fights. Before you feel sorry for some fighter making 6k a fight, what you need to understand is that if the guy is on the PPV card, he actually also gets a PERCENTAGE of that which is NOT publicly reported. While that percentage is small (say .5-1.5 percent with a RISING scale based on PPV success), that number is typically WAY more than the public figures you read about. This is all well know in the fight industry and FACT. Read the Eddie Alvarez info for a bit more insight into this if you don’t understand this. Basically,Fitch may say 1.3 mil on that video, but the amount he made off those PPVs FAR exceeds that number. FACT. I hope you’re saving your pennies now Fitch because you ain’t making anything in the same stratosphere as you were before. Anderson Silva publicly makes like 500k per fight, but after all is said and done, he actually makes in the MILLIONS per fight. I’m all for giving lower tier fighters better pay rates, but it’s silly to think they are starving when they make the MAIN card. Listen, there’s a REASON the UFC is the top show and ACTUAL FIGHTERS all dream of being on the main card. Seriously, if Fitch was really honest here, he could just show us the IRS numbers for the last 5 years. I guarantee he’ll never do that because he’s full of $hit in this case.