Do you think Joe Warren taps or not against Bibiano Fernandes at DREAM 11 fight ?

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It doesn’t matter if he tapped or not. His arm was secures and had the ref. not interfere with the fight it would have been broken.
Wasn’t a tap, sadly. Was just the force of the crashing into the canvas that made his hand move that way.
Still that armbar was deep.
no way he was getting out of that..
He tapped! He should have tapped! The fight should have been stopped even if he hadn’t tapped!
I think he tapped, It was his on fault…he gave him his arm on a silver platter leaving it across like that..and even still it looked like Bibiano threw it up and missed @ first and then got his leg in front of Joe’s face, gotta STACKEM Joe!!!
His arm could have been broken and the ref did the right thing. Who gives hoot if he tapped or did not tap.
I dont want to see another arm break in MMA like that one time…i forget the fighter. s*** snapped right in front of the camera. It was not an armbar, but something. The guy kept on fighting too. crazy.
Yeah, stack ‘em, or just recognize what’s happening and yank your arm out of there. In real time, I didn’t see the tap, but after watching this, he clearly taps. And even if he hadn’t tapped (which he did), the ref did a good job.
tap! i like the guy, but he definitely tapped. it looks like he wasn’t even fighting back because he already thought his arm was broke.
I have NEVER seen someone actually get there arm broke from not tapping. Not that it hasnt probably happened. He didnt tap out, only one if you want to call it a tap. Stupid stoppage. Should have let it go a few more seconds.
his arm was already bent at a crazy angle before going down.
i think that as they hit he kind of half-assed tapped because his arm was extremely bent at that point, but when they hit the ground i’m betting bibiano lost some leverage and it was not as painful anymore so he tried to play off the tap and go on.
he didn’t tap at first, that was just him grabbing the knee, but once it hits the ground you can see he taps. there’s no excuse for multiple taps like that if it was accidental.
yah it was so deep and he had no escape. I thought he tapped anyways.
the ref just saved his arm from busting, tap or no tap, he made a schoolboy error
I definitely don’t see the tap. But he was finished anyway.
You’ve never seen someone get their arm broken from not tapping in an arm bar? How about Tim Sylvia against Mir? He didn’t tap and got it broken. Cantwell broke someone’s arm at the fight for the troops. I didn’t know if Warren tapped, but I know that the ref did a good job protecting him from himself, because he wasn’t only going to get a broken arm in this case.
No tap. he grabbed the knee, hit the ground lost a hold of the knee, and grabbed the knee again. Looked like a double tap. On the other hand… no way he was getting out.
you know the more i look at this the more i see the tap!
he tapped. look at his fingertips on his thigh.
whoever thinks he didn’t tap, open your eyes and actually watch the GIF. He obviously taps, and it was a good stoppage.
it wasn’t a tap, but lets be realistic, he wasn’t getting out of that arm bar.
Who knows if he tapped, only he does, the force of coming down would make his hand ‘bounce’ off the knee. He had no escape there though, if he had not taped within a few moments, he would of had a damaged arm at very least. 10 minutes left on that clock, nice effort, but move along.
Beautiful submission!!!!
@ milan707:
Most recent is Steve Cantwell destroying Razak Al-Hassan’s arm at a UFC Fight Night. And there are others… like our favourite:
Timmeh Sylvia
Sakuraba vs Renzo Gracie.
Renzo didn’t tap but the fight was stopped.
He could not fight with one arm only.
Good job by the ref.
I’m reminded of the Rich Franklin/Marvin Eastman fight. Whatever, he was saved from some trouble.
Warren tapped twice! Right way on Bibiano’s knee (before the roll over)…look closely. And then he taps again when the ref stops it. Joe is just being a sore loser. This guy has no class.
I remember the Mir Vs Tim syliva fight! When Tim decided not to tap…THAT arm BROKE like a “No. 2 Pencil”…SNAP!! Those joint holds can be potential career ENDERS.
If it was a tap he would have slapped the ground with his palm repeatedly right in front of the ref instead of lightly touching Bibiano’s thigh with his fingertips so that he couldn’t even feel it. As far as what would have happened to the arm or not, that is only Joe’s business. Should a ref stop a fight if a a guy is dropping his hands in the standup and letting his opponent punch him in the face to? Because getting ktfo is a potential career ender to, just ask twinkle toes Chucky.
Ok people, enough bs. the refs number 1 priority is to protect the safty of the fighter!!! it doesnt matter if he tapped or not. the submission was in DEEP and he’s arm is clearly hyper-extended so the fihgt should have been stoped, period! it might not have been a tap. Warren probably would have rather had his arm broken. but, none of that matters because the ref must protect the fighter from permanent damage. therefore the stoppage is a just one… i have spoken:)
He did tap. Even if he didn’t the ref made a good call because he didn’t want the guy’s career to be finished over a simple mistake like getting caught in an armbar. Go back to the locker room and work on submission defense come back a better fighter.
Tapped
he tapped. first one was the big slap on the knee and when he got face planted into the back of he knee he just continues his tap with his fingers. you know not everyone will respond with a wailing tap. some people who train jits often will simply tap with the hand for the victor to release. regardless of wat anyone thinks it would have been al’hassan all over again, stunned look on his face at the ref like ‘ dude why the f*ck didnt you stop it?”
I thought a tap was technically defined as a sequence of 3 taps in quick succession to the same place (i.e. mat or opponent’s body). Granted taps vary in actual practice, but if that is the definition then no, he definitely did not tap.
Regardless, I agree with those saying he was still done and the ref did the right thing.
he tapped
The ref even asked him twice if it’s a “tap?”, with pointing finger. And for 3 taps, he tapped once when he was being set up, and twice more on the mat.
He lost the fight and he must been grateful with the referi that saved his arm.