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Drummo Says, in 11-8-2009 at 02:18:39 from 67.98.222.15    

I hated to see Miller lose this fight….I think he really is the more talented fighter. He lost fair and square though.

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Drummo Says, in 11-8-2009 at 02:19:07 from 67.98.222.15    

At least Miller isnt in the UFC.

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new new Says, in 11-8-2009 at 02:31:34 from 76.105.127.136    

this was lay and pray if i’ve ever seen it. he won, but “champion”?

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liggy1 Says, in 11-8-2009 at 02:31:49 from 75.65.189.198    

Shields won, but I won’t be watching him cling onto anyone else for an entire fight ever again. That was some boring shit! Too bad Miller didn’t connect during one of their brief exchanges standing up. I would have much rather watched Shields laying on the ground alone…and unconscious.

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tonysnow Says, in 11-8-2009 at 02:35:22 from 206.53.153.227    

Weren’t they on bully beatdown together? This fight was so boring….and why the heck is cung le coming back? He should feel like a dumass

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oaklandblackouts Says, in 11-8-2009 at 03:34:30 from 24.5.194.225    

yeah i don’t doubt shield’s skills. it was just painfully boring to watch this fight – he was fighting not to lose instead of fighting to win. by the time miller had him in trouble in that choke i was prayin he would tap shields. oh well.

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Crazywhite Says, in 11-8-2009 at 03:42:37 from 75.71.167.8    

I hate Jake shields, the did no damage on the ground, he would have lost if there was 10 more seconds, I want a Rematch, Big John should have stood this fight up A few times, Jake Shields is a one sided fighter

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Pink Ferret Says, in 11-8-2009 at 03:53:53 from 72.129.56.76    

Lay and pray… with no stand up.

Miller showed up… Shields… would get owned in the UFC.

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bluemonsterawr Says, in 11-8-2009 at 04:05:52 from 71.109.109.53    

millers take down defense sucked! jake shield won the fight, but he sure is no champ. on a brighter note rodgers got his ass kicked.

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Zman Says, in 11-8-2009 at 04:37:27 from 76.174.50.126    

Doesn’t seem Shields’ punches hurt Miller any.

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MmaMike Says, in 11-8-2009 at 04:43:26 from 24.42.127.185    

Awesome wrestling by Shields! The only reason why Miller hasn’t been grounded and pounded or submitted was the fact that he is a whole weight class larger than Shields and stupid strong. He is a true middle weight and Shields is a welter weight. He was shucking and bucking Shields all night long even though Shields continually got great position with his wrestling skill. If this was a welterweight fight with just another welterweight opponent it would have been over in the second round through submission or ground and pound. Though, I don’t think this is the weight class for Shields, he’s going to be fight a lot of guys who are going to be much bigger than him.

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nelz Says, in 11-8-2009 at 04:47:02 from 74.15.137.92    

i agree with you guys, jake won fair n square but c’mon just relying on ur wrestling n ground game..ehhh i didnt like it, he keeps doing da same thing over n over..in every fight. yeah its kool bcuz it works for him but sooner or later ppols will catch on. i think his striking looked weak, like it didnt affect jason at all from da looks of it. mayhem was good tho, always scrambling around n avoiding most of the subs. man jake was lucky cause of that bell…i think he knew it was only a few secs till da bell so he didnt tap. he knew his ass was gonna be saved by da bell. if it wer for longer he wud have passed out

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MmaMike Says, in 11-8-2009 at 04:48:26 from 24.42.127.185    

Oh if you find this fight boring you should stick to watching boxing or get some Ritalin for your A.D.D . This fight is a classic wrestling chess match which Shields is a master at. It was great watching him continually get great position on Miller. The only reason why he couldn’t finish Miller was as I said before Miller was too big and too strong and a master at avoiding submissions.

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Watts Says, in 11-8-2009 at 04:57:32 from 67.48.224.6    

There should be some rule that you can’t win by laying on someone for 5 rounds. Shields never came close to finishing or even damaging Miller. I wish when nothing is going on that the ref would stand it up more often. Very boring fight. Miller was the only exciting thing in this fight. Five more seconds and Shields would have been taking a nap.

Thanks again Bruno, you the man.

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had_to_say_it Says, in 11-8-2009 at 05:32:46 from 24.238.154.140    

This was SO disappointing… nobody in their right mind would ever want to watch Shields fight again!! That was very annoying. Miller is the more all around talented ENTERTAINING fighter. Miller sells tickets… Shields makes me wanna watch boxing.

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ihatehaters Says, in 11-8-2009 at 06:36:57 from 98.254.9.205    

damn if that third round was 5 seconds longer the choke wouldve had shields snoozing.

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Jurkerbor Says, in 11-8-2009 at 07:04:04 from 81.34.58.15    

Shields won but we is a boring fighter

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joejoe Says, in 11-8-2009 at 08:37:59 from 213.65.45.152    

boring!!!
if i wanted to see grapping i wouldve watched something else!

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lefthookharry Says, in 11-8-2009 at 09:06:15 from 97.88.199.46    

BOOORING! Come to fight – Miller tried. This really should have been declared a no contest – Disappointed Big John didn’t stand them up after 1 minute of the “I’m laying on you” strategy. It was like watching figure skating. Silly moves that basically led to nowhere. It didn’t help the sport at all – TERRIBLE fight!

Shields – YOU SUCK! If that is championship caliber fighting – I won’t watch your fights again. I understand he knew Miller would beat his ass if they stood up, but 5 rounds of this crap. At some point you need to actually fight than hug people all night. THIS FIGHT SUCKED!!!!!

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Danger317 Says, in 11-8-2009 at 10:12:50 from 99.14.111.125    

Hate to say this but Jason Mayhem Miller deserved to lose the fight. His inability to stop the takedown and keep it standing is the #1 reason why he lost that fight. Also his Jits was looking kind of off compared to when he fought Jacare. Unless some how Jake is that much stronger jacare, which doesnt surprise me since hes a wrestler.

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BigPrawn Says, in 11-8-2009 at 10:38:44 from 60.229.142.174    

Ok…I agree with most here, but can someone please tell me(facts) how the judges score these fights?.. I know aggression, octogon control etc etc..but is a takedown worth more than a clean punch?..leg kick more than a full mount? The entire idea of MMA competition originally was have all styles competing to see who is the best fighter.. I understand that to make this possible with athletic commisions the fights need rules to make it a sport but cmon peoples.. Jake shields layed and prayed the entire fight..If it wasnt for rounds he would be sleeping and miller would have won.. Fight camps are already finding loopholes in the sport and if something doesnt change we are gonna keep seeing this over and over again..

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machidavssilva Says, in 11-8-2009 at 10:56:45 from 98.238.19.133    

I agree with MmaMike. Shields worked for mount and submissions again and again. Lay and pray is what Clay Guida does. This was a great fight. There were so many transitions and escapes. Miller was outclassed on the ground and should have been able to sprawl against a smaller opponent. You guys that think the fight shouldn’t go to the ground don’t seem to understand that the ground game is the only thing that makes this sport different from Muay Thai. You might as well say you don’t like MMA.

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machidavssilva Says, in 11-8-2009 at 11:02:48 from 98.238.19.133    

I think from reading the posts I am starting to understand what drives you Jake haters. You just want to see someone get hurt. I like to see guys get ktfo too. But this is a sport and there’s such a thing as technique. You got to see some great technique and that didn’t satisfy your blood lust so Jake is a boring pussy. I can’t hate on you too much because I got a murder boner watching Fedor spin Brett’s head with that jack hammer he calls a fist.

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PuNcH Says, in 11-8-2009 at 11:27:33 from 86.24.124.131    

That wasn’t lay and pray it was high level grappling – but the best fights show all areas of mma at a high level – usually moving quickly throw all the aspects – this could have been a grappling contest if you take away the small amount of stand up

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Big DZ Says, in 11-8-2009 at 11:58:06 from 68.118.67.100    

To the Jake haters……..So if Jake can take miller down at will and then “lay and pray” all night long Miller should win? How about Miller improves his sprawl and then takedown or two? That would have helped. That’s how you beat shields it to KEEP the fight standing. That is the fighters responsibility not the Ref’s. Jake had multipile submission attempts. To say that he layed on him and did nothing is BS. Learn the sport of grappling and MMA.

Are those that get bored with a fight that goes to the ground the same ones that get bored in a 12 round boxing fight?

There is a art and a science here that is lost on many……….Good think for you guys there is Brock.

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jr Says, in 11-8-2009 at 13:46:27 from 75.83.234.181    

Jake sucks..ground game is all he’s got n still could’nt rap miller up

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milojustlaxin Says, in 11-8-2009 at 14:48:08 from 69.207.31.217    

ummm wtf has miller ever heard of sprawl?? its only written on almost every friggin pair of shorts haha lack luster fight with the same calliber fighter

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guy Says, in 11-8-2009 at 14:52:26 from 76.95.7.174    

its not that we are saying miller wins we are just saying that he cannot rely on this all the time. i mean who knows he could have gotten screwed by the judges. never did he convincingly get even close to finishing this fight. he seemed content with just taking him down and laying on top of him. doesnt this remind you guys of old tito ortiz? fought tomato cans layed and prayed then when he ran into chuck and randy he got foiled. jake will not last long. someones going stuff his take downs and make him stand up then hes going to get slapped around.

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subidoo Says, in 11-8-2009 at 16:07:27 from 24.20.114.205    

Goth damn it! Shields is tough, but that was not dominant. He just stopped miller from doing anything. That’s all.

Hell, I’m surprised he didn’t try to PIN miller. He obviously thought this was a wrestling match.

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Jasonicus Says, in 11-8-2009 at 16:16:17 from 71.240.87.226    

Shields is the Strikeforce equivalent of Clay Guida. Lays on the guy for as long as he can to win by points. Cung Le will KO him, and he would lose to many in the UFC. 1 trick pony.

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jayjay Says, in 11-8-2009 at 16:59:52 from 205.250.54.1    

I love the ground game but shields is an embarassement to MMA. Boring ass fighter. No wonder he isnt in the UFC

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guthzilla Says, in 11-8-2009 at 18:15:18 from 24.239.234.146    

exactly its “Mixed Martial Arts”. I am all for a ground game, but laying on a guy for 25 minutes isnt mixed. You say we should watch boxing? I say you should watch Wrestling.

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liggy1 Says, in 11-8-2009 at 19:47:44 from 75.65.189.198    

Well put guthzilla! Wait until Shields meets someone who can box AND defend against the take down. Someone like Penn. Shields would go nighty-night.

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nelz Says, in 11-8-2009 at 20:58:11 from 74.15.137.92    

lol we aint jake haters, dude, like i said its good it works for him but sooner or later they will catch on, plus this is MMA…MIXED Martial Arts…like one of the guys said..this could have just been a grappling match if u took off the lil stand up they did. if he keeps this up hes gonna get k.o’ed sooner or later. he needs to improve his striking. look he is good at what he does he just needs a lil more. i know some guys who fight exactly like him. now they train more stand up. they r getting better n better. if he trains more kickboxing + the ground game he already has, he wud be very dangerous.

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Drew Says, in 11-8-2009 at 23:05:20 from 207.210.26.156    

Sooner or later one-dimensional styles get exposed. You can blame age with Matt Hughes, but the reality is he simply hasn’t developed a more well-rounded game like others have. If Shields was in the UFC, he’d have a much harder time going up against counter wrestlers with superior striking like Koscheck, Anthony Johnson, GSP, Trigg, etc.

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MmaMike Says, in 11-9-2009 at 02:27:29 from 24.42.127.185    

I think some of you guys missed the fact that Shields wasn’t really laying a praying at all. He got to the mount position, took Millers back and flattened him out, side control numerous times and was in a great position to finish the fight via ground and pound or submission. It’s just Miller wouldn’t cooperate. If you guys are mad that this was a boring fight you should be mad at Miller. He should have just laid there like Sokajou maybe that would make you guys happy.

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i no name Says, in 11-9-2009 at 04:55:04 from 66.91.4.122    

Sheilds style sucks donkey anus. i dont care if he won blah blah blah. He is not a fighter, he is an athlete. He didnt go out to kick ass, he went out to hold miller down from kickin his ass. Watch the mudslide of negative sheilds is gonna get from here on out.

At least he wont ever make it to the ufc, not with that style. he should fight thales leites next since he dont mind fighting on the ground.

With his style he should go work at a pyche ward and hold the patients down when they dont wanna take their shots or meds.

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RickNasty Says, in 11-9-2009 at 06:52:04 from 121.55.197.142    

I told you he was a boring fighter.. tsk tsk tsk. that’s why you’ll never be in the ufc, dude.. finish something would ya?

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palefaceghost Says, in 11-9-2009 at 10:06:30 from 74.196.188.231    

no that was not laying and praying like clay guida but ill be damn if he still doesnt suck ass, yes he won, but he punches like a bitch when he punches. i dont mind ground game but that is all jake can do. he has jello for fist

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ukcreation Says, in 11-9-2009 at 18:57:19 from 81.141.168.167    

Boring!? Come on guys, this is world class wrestling and JJ!

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Just Me Says, in 11-10-2009 at 03:12:58 from 98.215.167.143    

I think Miller won the fight. I scored the fight 1,2,3 for Miller and 4 and 5 for Shields. I guess the judges don’t count reversals/sweeps.

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imhungry Says, in 11-11-2009 at 19:25:56 from 70.45.175.153    

I’m a go ahead an say it.

I agree with Just Me.

Miller won that fight. Came closest to finishing it too. He got robbed. End of story.

Oh, and Antonio Silva also got robbed.

And that’s why Strikeforce is crap. Worthless crap.

-End of rant-


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