Comments on: Frankie Edgar vs. Ben Henderson Fight Video UFC 144 Japan

By: FireUFCJudges

FireUFCJudges — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 14:45:41 +0000

All they can point to on Edgar in this fight is the lucky upkick that bloodied him. Did it affect his subsequent fighting at all (i.e. slow him down or make him take more punishment)? The objective answer is no.

Henderson, I think “looked” more like a champion in the eyes of the judges because he was showboating for them and Edgar’s face was bloodied.

In addition to that, I think there is a racial component in the UFC. In a lot of close fights between a white and non-white, at least one judge gives it to the non-white. Go look at the past 20 UFCs, there are plenty of examples where you have to ask “What fight were you watching?”

Further on that point, listen to how Joe Rogan casts the fights. This UFC 144 was a perfect example. If you have time to go back and watch it again, tally up how many times Joe Rogan commpliments the non-white and how many times he compliments the white. Then also tally how many times he puts the white guy down and then how many times he puts the non-white down. You’ll discover something about Joe Rogan. Think it’s a fluke? Go back to any of the past five UFCs and run the tally again. If you’re white fighting a non-white, you’re not getting a lot of love from Joe Rogan.

By: theunderfighter

theunderfighter — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 04:21:48 +0000

I absolutely can not fathom how people not only saw that as a really close fight, but that Edgar DOMINATED?! I just can’t see it…
He scored a couple really lucky/sloppy take downs, and a couple really good take downs. The only 2 times he scored a really good take down and Henderson did not get up IMMEDIATELY AS HE PLEASED, was when he kicked Edgar in the face, and almost submitted him with a guillotine. He then reversed the action and continued beating him up. He landed damage in every round, and threatened to finish in 3 or 4 of the rounds. Edgar never threatened to finish, and only very briefly had any sort of advantageous position, which Henderson immediately reversed and did more damage in return. I just don’t see how people saw it so one sided for Edgar. I think it was a great fight, a competitive fight, and in the end Henderson got the best of Edgar.

By: chiroguy

chiroguy — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 03:54:28 +0000

Op_of_faith…Brodio900 posts that you are a dumb dumb and obviously have experience in the fight game. I assume he meant to say “you obviously don’t have experience in the fight game”…Brodio900 is obviously not the brightest tool in the shed. That being said, I hold multiple black belts in several martial arts along with a Doctorate Degree. I, my friend, am no dumbfuck. I have been watching mma regularly since 1993 (19 years and counting). I have seen every single 1 of Frankie Edgar’s fights in the UFC. He earned my respect after the Tyson Griffin fight. His knockout of Maynard was amazing. I respect him tremendously not only as a fighter but as a human being. He also has tremendous heart. That being said, there is absolutely, positively no way Edgar won that fight. I also thought that Pettis won the first fight with Henderson without the flashy fence kick. I was not impressed with the flying kick that Benson threw after Frankie caught his initial kick. It missed, therefore it did no damage. No harm, no foul…I was however impressed with the up-kick that flat-out shook Frankie’s brain and busted him open. That kick set the tone for the rest of the fight. I was waiting for Frankie to switch from 4th gear into 5th during the fight but it never came. Benson was getting stronger as the fight moved forward, while Frankie was stuck in 4th gear. I actually felt like i was rooting for Frankie during the fight because i like him as a fighter and respect the fact that he always looks half the size of his opponents (as he did in this fight). That being said, i thought Benson had the perfect skill-set to beat Frankie and take his belt home. I thought Benson was going to win but hoped Frankie would win. If you watch the end of the fight as they are about to announce the decision, check out the look on Frankie’s face and then take a look into Benson’s eyes. The fighter’s themselves know best when they have claimed victory and when they feel the agony of defeat. The look on Frankie’s face and his eyes tell me a story i have seen only once before…after his first fight with Maynard. Henderson was just too big, too fast and too strong for Frankie…my opinion! That being said, i can’t wait for Benson and Pettis to dance..that will be a flat out barnburner!!!

By: mscash

mscash — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:54:15 +0000

Frankie Edgar won this fight. I’ve watched it three times now and the one thing that stands out as usual is that Edgar got bloody.

Do ya want to see a fighter that came out looking beaten and still was winner?

Georges St. Pierre vs. BJ Penn 1

By: drex

drex — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:54:27 +0000

Jose Aldo will stomp on edgar if he tries to invade his turf. Frankie is a tough kid but needs to pack more muscle to compete with the rest.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:48:06 +0000

@Odin
I so agree with you, I liked him as fighter and thought he is a pretty smart dude until I heard that Christ stuff.

no disrespect to anyone that is too religious but in my opinion people that are too religious are mostly judgmental, discriminatory and not too wise (messed up in the head)

By: Op_of_faith

Op_of_faith — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:27:52 +0000

@Brodio900…well put. Clearly I’M the dumb dumb. I tend to also be able to write coherent comments…and you? Dumbfuck.

By: cH1NO

cH1NO — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 05:03:39 +0000

Tough to see Congrats to the new champ Henderson. Frankie will be back more determined and hopefully get more power behind his strikes then he will be a new force to recon with.

By: Nora Penefrin

Nora Penefrin — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:14:35 +0000

regardless of who got more “points”, frankie edgar clearly took more of a beating. his face says it all.

By: PitfighterZ

PitfighterZ — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 23:10:09 +0000

Well, you can all argue as much as you want, but the truth is that the rules are very clear on this point… Oh, wait…
Yep, you can yap all you want, but there is nothing in the rules that defines what the main things that people usually use to score fights mean:
1. Significant strikes: quantity v. damage
2. Octagon control: controlling the center v. controlling the action by forcing the other guy to chase you
3. Takedowns and jabs: should they count for themselves or only if they are followed by a damaging attack?
4. well, you get the drift.

There’s nothing there to clarify. My point is the same as ever, get rid of the need for judges. Increase the time of the first round, give the ref. some yellow cards, and make the fight be only stopped by KO, TKO (ref. call), or submission (either tap out, unconsciousness, or towel from the corner).
Anything else is just like this:
http://www.mmatko.com/2-toddlers-go-at-it-sherdog-forums-style/

So, I will just climb this fridge here…