Frankie Edgar vs. Ben Henderson Fight Video UFC 144 Japan

I love watching Benson fight and am a huge fan but Edgar was robbed…

You cant be serious about that, Henderson won all the 5 rounds, edgar did nothing to win the fight

I was about to say, if Edger wins this, I am done watching UFC. The judges got this one right.

i agree with the judges, unanimous decision. Tx for the post man!!!

Judges were not even close, % thrown to % landed, went to Frankie, Takedowns went to Frankie, only power shots went to Henderson. Frankie will come back and beat Henderson.

ben def won that fight, his octogon control, pushing forward, more damage in punches, takedowns and abilty to pop right back up when he did get taken down, i got edgar only winning the first round, maybe second if im being generous but benson won the rest, that guys a beast

Anyone who thinks Edgar won that fight is insane. Henderson landed the harder shots, rocked Edgar several times, and did massive damage. Just look at his face vs Henderson’s at the end. All of you that think Edgar was robbed, don’t deserve to watch MMA. I can’t stand people that think MMA should be a ‘point’ sport, where landing more weak shots gives you the victory. It’s about DAMAGE and FINISHING your opponent.

sometimes i think thats the unfair aspect of people cutting weight to fight at lower classes. the size difference is obvious & no doubt makes a big difference in the fight game…

I don’t subscribe to the philosophy that you have to dominantly defeat a champ to take his place. If you won the fight you won the fight. Period. That said, I think Henderson did a lot more damage while receiving a lot less. I think the judges made a good decision (for once).

I dont believe that ANYONE who SCORED THE FIGHT, i.e. kept track of number of contacts, takedowns (Edgar had about 5, Henderson 1) could have called the fight for Henderson. Sorry, I love Bendo, but he didnt win. The problem when NON-Fighter watch a fight is that they are impressed by s*** like the first round when after Bendo got his kick caught and stopped he jumped and threw a kick with the other leg….NON-fighters are impressed with flashy stuff like that…they MISS the fact that his kick was stopped, he missed the flying kick and ended up on his back…what he did was ineffective even though it looked cool…

what round did ben win?

This fight was one of the best decision I’ve
seen from judges. Ben did more damage to Frankie,and had more chance of finishing the fight. Ben is also first Korean American UFC champion,so all the guys saying Asians are weak “GTFOH”. Ben Henderson,B.J Penn all hybrid Korean power!!!

im from Jerseyand a hug Edgar fan wrestled with him at rugters, he lost but it should have been a split decision not a all for Bendo but it was a good fight bendo is a very tough and skilled guy

Thank God the judges used their head and didn’t mistake MMA for Sport Karate point fighting like last the last UFC…

Bendo all the way. He controlled the fight and beat up the champ. Frankie is a great fighter, but was edged by a better fighter last night. The judges really got this one right…BTW that upkick made MY face hurt.

It was a close fight you drama queens.

How the hell did Frankie get robbed.I saw Benson winning all 5 rounds.Maybe Frankie got round 2 but thats all.

Frankie had a good gameplan of stick and move and catch his kicks.It’s a really good gameplan except they didnt excepct Benson to have magnets under his feet.

@op_faith
I’m not a NON fighter like you wrote so many times and I still think Bendo won.Frankie landed more strikes but they hjad nothing behind it.Everytime Frankie got a takedown he couldn’t do anything with it and each time Bendo got the dominant position he did some good GnP and did the damage.Frankie didnt do any damage.Look at Winky Wright vs Jermain Taylor.Wright punched more times and scored more but didnt do any damage(like Frankie here).Jermain had alot less strikes landed but his strikes were all powers shots or damaging shots(like Benson)and they gave the fight to Jermain because thats how it works.if your game is alot of small punches with no intent of hurting,then they will score less then power shots or damaging shots.

how the hell is there a controversy?!!! ben beat the brakes off of frankie. ben had a reversal for every “bad” position he was in. edgar didnt want to engage in any way

There’s a difference between strategic point fighters and fighters that actually look to win via KO/Submission. Watch the fight again, and listen to Edgar’s corner. Their plan was to survive. Score take downs, get back up, score punch combinations, get out of the way. There was no sense of urgency at all out of Edgar to try and KO or submit Henderson. I’m a true fan of MMA, that means I respect the mix martial artist more, not the super athlete who trains and looks for a decision. I respect the finisher more, and Henderson was looking to finish. He won that fight, he deserved it. If you’re a true mix martial artist, and you say “my ground game is better than his” “my standup is better than his”, then show it. If you get him on the ground show us how much better you are by trying to submit him/gnp whatever. If you claim you’re better than him standing up then show it.. go for the knock out, don’t just throw punches hoping to land. Point fighters look to score points and win via cheapness. REal mma-ers look for the win in their own hands, not the judges.

Ben won easily, he was never in any kind of trouble. Yes Edgar took him down but did nothing when he was there!!
The amount of Damage Ben did to Frankie as we all can see was devastating.
Frankie’s pitter patter punching without any power is not enough to win.

@KungFuLowKick: Well said bro. Not only that, but every time Hendo was bringing that GNP, Edgar got saved twice by that BELL. The first time, Edgar would have been beaten to a PULP. DING!!! God saved that kid last night..

@KungFuLowKick-

Ok then, as a Fighter you know the point system is because not every fight is a knock out, and you also know that the Champ has a given advantage-the challenger has to TAKE the belt. Hendo doesn’t cut easy and yes had some hard strikes but his connection percentage was WAY lower and he only capitalized once in an attempted guillotine, which he couldn’t complete. IF the Champ has WAY more connects, puts you on your ass repeatedly and you, as the challenger, didn’t FINISH him, how are you the winner? Frankie SHOULD have won on points.

I’m not like these new fight fans, or like the Diaz supporters who support their hero no matter what…I think Henderson beat Pettis, honestly. If you ask most people who saw that fight-”showtine kick, showtime kick, showtime kick…” It was pretty even,but then Benson got ahead in the last rounds and pretty much had won. If Pettis had fired a normal kick and dropped Benson he wouldn’t have won that fight-Benson was up RIGHT after the kick. People respond to flash…that’s what I object to…

Did you notice how Benson kept shrugging his shoulders last night after getting hit? That’s showmanship-non fighters and dumb judges respond to that…but you STILL got hit and the point should have gone to Frankie. Period. I don’t like point fighting but those are the rules…

All that bullshit about doin’ it for Christ is really sickening. Jesus freaks are nuts. Great fight nonetheless

Ben Henderson is So SMOOTH and great CHAMP Now
Frankie is too small for 155lb, and especially for Bendo, just like BJ fighting in 170lbs.

LOL

Benson won that fight clearly. It doesn’t matter if you land more shots if there is nothing on them, anybody who has done any standup training in their life knows its a lot easier to land shots if you are not putting anything on them, doesn’t mean you win a fight when your face looks like mincemeat at the end …

Babel says that Ben didn’t do enough to “win” the title from the champ…Upon completion of the fight, take a look at Frankie’s face and then take a look at Benson’s face. Then tell me that Benson did not do enough to “win” the fight from the champ. R U Kidding me bro. Seriously??? What else does Benson have to do to “win” the title? Does he have to inflict permanent brain damage???

I just want to know who the kid or girl saying “comon frankie” and “lets go frankie” and tell them to shut up. every freaking frankie edgar fight.

@chiroguy-…you are a shinning example of what I’m talking about. Chael Sonnen, as much as I hate him, looked like hamburger after the Silva fight but if Silva hadn’t pulled off that triangle then he EASILY would have lost to points. This is what I mean about people not understanding the sport. Bendo has only looked beat up ONCE that I know of because he simply tends not to cut…He gets hit all the time. That is my one criticism of him…AS A FAN.

Once again, you just don’t get it. I was a Bendo fan when he was in the WEC. I STILL call the Pettis fight for him because you don’t win a fight because you threw one flashy kick-not to a real fighter. I wanted BJ to win against Edgar… Frankie. Simply. Won. The person who hits the most, knocks the opponent down the most and HAPPENS to be champ wins by default and always has. Go watch the fight again and count points. Until the judging changes and there is a new point system (and I hope this happens) by the rules…not by wannabe bullshit, Frankie Edgar won that fight.

it was a good fight. close but not close enough. edgar is a tough guy and moves really well, but ben is waay bigger and stronger and reminds me of guys like jose aldo, guys who want to hurt you, not merely win on points.

that said it could have been a split decision, but either way ben won.

also benson…asking Japanese for an ‘amen’=FAIL

I really like the way Henderson fights but man I have endless respect for Frankie what a Heart he was a much smaller fighter but with a huge Heart. I think the fight was actually pretty close in the technical aspect but Henderson did more damage and controlled the center more. thats how I had it

Round 1 = Frankie

Round 2 = Henderson

Round 3 = Frankie

Round 4 = Henderson

Round 5 = Henderson (very close round almost a draw but near the end Henderson was dominant which is important)but henderson did more Damage and center control overall

I have so much respect for Frankie what a heart he has.

Where in the rules does it say that if you “land” (or even touch gently) someone more, you deserve the round? GTFOH you crybabies! Stiking = Henderson. 1 power shot is worth more than some tick tacky flurries. Is this not obvious to everyone? The category is effective strikes and damage, not “this fighter touched the other fighter with baby punches”. Damn, look at their faces and even their bodies. Benson beat Frankie like he stole something from his church.

Octagon control = Henderson. Controled the center of the ring, always moved forward. Edgar just basically ran around in circles like a gnat and while he did land some minor shots, he took WAY more damage. Hence the running and not engaging.

I will say Frankie took Benson down more, but that was more likely due to Benson not even being worried about it and being able to absorb ZERO (read again, ZERO) damage. In top control position, Benson, once again, did WAY more damage. Hell, in fact, from BOTTOM position, Benson did WAY more damage. He actually almost finished the fight twice from the bottom on an upckick to GNP, and also an arm in Guillotine.

Benson threatened to finish the fight 3 times (twice very close), Frankie didn’t threaten even one moment in this fight.

Listen, anytime a round is even close, the guy who does more damage or threatens to end the fight should ALWAYS get the round. This is, after all a combat sport that is supposed to be a FIGHT. This isn’t dancing or a compulsory point performance requirements sport. Frankie should have looked in the mirror/monitor and taken his A S S beating like a man.

Also, Frankie gave immediate rematches because he really lost all the first fights. Fight metric had BJ winning the first fight. Maynard really should have won the first title shot fight as well. Getting beaten up and “winning” gets you rematches, getting owned like a pack of cigarettes in the joint doesn’t deserve a rematch.

Pride FC is dead. Pride FC scoring has nothing to do with UFC scoring. You cannot simply take a snapshot of two fighters faces at the end of a fight and make that your sole determination in deciding the winner. Please have a better argument than “look at their faces” if you are going to argue the outcome. UFC is judged on a point system round by round. That’s just the way it is. All that said, I think it was a good call by the judges. I do think it was a pretty close fight, although no one’s put Edgar in more trouble in a title fight than Maynard has.

Secondly, why is it excusable to show that much vehement hate for someone because they believe differently than you? I don’t think I’ve ever heard Henderson attack anyone else for their beliefs, but you hate him for mentioning Jesus? Is that truly more rational than you claim he is for not being just like you?

Thanks Bruno!

Edgar didn’t even landed more shots;
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/henderson-vs-edgar-official-ufc.html
Also he did nothing with the takedowns. Or wait.. he got a brutal head kick.

I agree with the idiots who think little Frankie won. I could tell by Frankie’s face that he was the winner LOL Are you people serious? LOL

BTW. I liked Ben for a minute until the Christ stuff came out. Yuck. I wish there were some ancient Roman Legionaries around to throw that Christian into a lion pit.

i thought henderson won. i also thought condit beat diaz and sonnen beat bisping.

freedom of religion vs freedom of speech. you are free to rip on someone for their beliefs, it just makes you look like an asshole.

i’m a huge edgar fan, but benson cleaned house. my favourite part was henderson’s corner after round 4. “You got 5 more good minutes?” “I’ve got 15 minutes!” Benson’s cardio is rock solid.

I just saw zxfc post and now people saying Frankie won have no argument at all.Ben landed more significant strikes(jabs to the body don’t count imo)had the more significant grappling exchange and the more damaging strikes.He also was the better fighter in every grappling exchange.So what’s left to defend Frankie?He got takedowns who did nothing.And I like Frankie aot more then Jesus freak but Jesus Freak definetly won.

You could make a case for Edgar winning the match if all you score was strikes and takedowns landed, like a boxing match. However I don’t think you can claim that Edgar landed more SIGNIFICANT strikes.

While Edgar may have won the match, anyone can see that Ben clearly won the fight.

After re-watching this fight Benson Henderson won this fight not only because he did the most damage but because he was never threatened. That upkick in the first round won and then him finishing in top position landing ground and pound won that round. He landed the harder shots in round 2 and almost finished Edgar with that guillotine. His takedowns were fewer but when he was on top he did damage and Edgar didnt. He looked fresher throughout the whole fight and Edgar was not only busted up but when the fight was over he didn’t look like a guy who thought he had won. I honestly didn’t give Edgar any of the first 4 rounds. He was the more active fighter but the only big punch he landed was in the 5th and even that round he ended up on the bottom and getting ground and pounded … Henderson is the truth!

Henderson won rounds 2-4. 3 rounds to Frankie’s 2 so its a UD win and a new champ. If Edgar wants to win decisions and not finish his opponents off then he needs to do more damage but since he has no power I guess thats not an option.

Yo the Angel wings on his back etc. is such a crock of s*** cuz it basically saying that “God” favors him more than Edgar blah blah blah. There is no god or religion in fighting. All this thanking some mythological supreme being after a combat sport is just plain retarded.

Brainwashed is right. Bendo won because he trained hard. not because some bullshit god went into the minds of the judges and made them see the fight go his way.

Dude needs to get those stupid chick tats off his back. Good win for him.

@captainobvious-

Best comment so far IMO. The fact is…we are using boxing as our standard. This is why Diaz lost to Condit and why being the aggressor is bullshit. Diaz spent the whole fight getting punch up and missing and he supposedly won cause he swung a lot. I think this is yet another fight that demands a standard. We all know that the judges score take downs…REGARDLESS of what happens after that. To say that “he didn’t capitalize on it…” is bullshit. The take down is a point. I’m fine with not going with boxing standards but if you do-that’s the guide and its a point system. Until we go back to no time limits or some sort of sudden death then the fact that you really believe something doesn’t count…sorry.

Well, you can all argue as much as you want, but the truth is that the rules are very clear on this point… Oh, wait…
Yep, you can yap all you want, but there is nothing in the rules that defines what the main things that people usually use to score fights mean:
1. Significant strikes: quantity v. damage
2. Octagon control: controlling the center v. controlling the action by forcing the other guy to chase you
3. Takedowns and jabs: should they count for themselves or only if they are followed by a damaging attack?
4. well, you get the drift.

There’s nothing there to clarify. My point is the same as ever, get rid of the need for judges. Increase the time of the first round, give the ref. some yellow cards, and make the fight be only stopped by KO, TKO (ref. call), or submission (either tap out, unconsciousness, or towel from the corner).
Anything else is just like this:
http://www.mmatko.com/2-toddlers-go-at-it-sherdog-forums-style/

So, I will just climb this fridge here…

Tough to see Congrats to the new champ Henderson. Frankie will be back more determined and hopefully get more power behind his strikes then he will be a new force to recon with.

@Odin
I so agree with you, I liked him as fighter and thought he is a pretty smart dude until I heard that Christ stuff.

no disrespect to anyone that is too religious but in my opinion people that are too religious are mostly judgmental, discriminatory and not too wise (messed up in the head)

Frankie Edgar won this fight. I’ve watched it three times now and the one thing that stands out as usual is that Edgar got bloody.

Do ya want to see a fighter that came out looking beaten and still was winner?

Georges St. Pierre vs. BJ Penn 1

I absolutely can not fathom how people not only saw that as a really close fight, but that Edgar DOMINATED?! I just can’t see it…
He scored a couple really lucky/sloppy take downs, and a couple really good take downs. The only 2 times he scored a really good take down and Henderson did not get up IMMEDIATELY AS HE PLEASED, was when he kicked Edgar in the face, and almost submitted him with a guillotine. He then reversed the action and continued beating him up. He landed damage in every round, and threatened to finish in 3 or 4 of the rounds. Edgar never threatened to finish, and only very briefly had any sort of advantageous position, which Henderson immediately reversed and did more damage in return. I just don’t see how people saw it so one sided for Edgar. I think it was a great fight, a competitive fight, and in the end Henderson got the best of Edgar.