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103 Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:08:36 from 75.120.32.156    

Are you kidding me? He stops this fight while Vera is making an intelligent defense, but he wouldn’t stop Kimbo slice who was prone on the mat and taking 70 elbows to the head???? Could we start a petition to pull Miragliotta’s ref license?

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alfredunhill Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:12:18 from 65.2.95.7    

That sucks to see my boy Vera lose…oh well, everybody has got to lose sometime…way too early of a stoppage imo….

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xS.I.Px Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:16:03 from 70.143.83.237    

i wanted werdum to win, but not like that stupid fucken ref. they need to replace him

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Kevin Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:16:06 from 24.195.190.30    

eh, i dunno. didn’t seem as damaging as it would appear…but he wasn’t fighting back…but 20 seconds left and it’s STOPPED? eh, very bad call. there needs to be a line between intelligently defending by punching or hitting back, or intelligently covering up. i think he covered up good enough for it to go to a second round. he was not hurt.

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jack Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:23:28 from 99.248.200.125    

I wanted Vera to lose.. but not like that… lol

Thats enough of that shitty ass ref, bring Big John back.

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Sunfish Hero Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:34:46 from 75.111.34.153    

I don’t often say this, but that was a bullshit stoppage. That is MMA’s worst ref.

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hahaha Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:35:37 from 70.108.223.7    

DAN MIRAGLIOTTA?!?! AGAIN!?!? someone fire his ass….

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BooBoo Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:38:00 from 208.50.223.84    

Pretty bad stoppage IMO … too bad looked like an interesting fight.

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darkmetal Says, in 6-7-2008 at 20:49:23 from 74.61.152.70    

Too bad it wasn’t Kimbo on the ground, he would have let him have 2 minutes and at least 30 more punches…

Am I wrong to think that Vera should have had more time? I don’t think so, he wasn’t out, he was blocking punches (Unlike in the Kimbo/Thompson fight) and still should have had more time to try to reverse the situation.

Geragliotta rules at their finest! sheesh

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GRIMTHUG Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:05:38 from 78.148.177.6    

what the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk is wrong with this fuckin ref???????????????????

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hans Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:14:25 from 74.61.200.186    

MIrgliota you gotta go…

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GRIMTHUG Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:35:39 from 78.148.177.6    

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Drummo Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:37:37 from 75.87.253.64    

This ref sucks…. period.

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Rick Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:41:21 from 65.78.142.66    

I gave Dan Miragliotta the benefit of the doubt on the Kimbo fight but this is just way too early.

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j_satan_666 Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:44:22 from 75.62.110.2    

Brandon the truth is you were fed most your fights with little piss ons. Guys he was full mounted and catching hell. he didn’t even work the bridge at all. stick a fork in him because he’s done. werdum was just softening him up for the arm bar. werdum is a fantastic bjj practitioner. if he didn’t early stop it would of ended seconds later. i personally would of liked it to go longer so you could of seen the carnage.

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smack Says, in 6-7-2008 at 21:55:25 from 202.137.103.247    

vera sucks but that stopage was bullshit, they should fire that ref

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KiDD Says, in 6-7-2008 at 22:07:24 from 74.245.62.52    

yo Fabricio Werdum was done the 2 round yo f*ck Miragliotta that ref suck ass Vera is one of the best fighters out there Werdum was done son you can see it in his eyes lol

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Drew Says, in 6-7-2008 at 22:10:27 from 24.57.192.74    

Baaad stoppage. I defended the Kimbo stoppage, but Vera was not hurt and was intelligently defending himself. Bad call.

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incognito Says, in 6-7-2008 at 22:13:33 from 58.69.0.138    

the fight stopped prematurely by a ref who has had similar controversy. i just don’t understand how that was stopped. covering up, defending is a very important part of martial arts, just like striking. i counted 4 shots come in, others were blocked. they didn’t miss, they were blocked. there’s a difference. now vera’s promising career will just be wasted to nothing because of a ref who’s scared to see a little blood. they have to fight again. that’s the only way to settle this. if werdum wins, it validates this match. but if vera wins, then it means miragliotta has done it again. at most that round should have gone to werdum; but that’s it. there should have been a second round. on the second fight, let herb call it.

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Sagaz Says, in 6-7-2008 at 22:26:29 from 68.101.132.237    

Although I don’t like that referee and the fact that he is a piece of garbage, I don’t think Vera had much left in the fight because Werdum would not lose the mount instead he would just continue with the ruthless ground and pound and Vera would continue blocking all the punches with his face.

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Zescape Says, in 6-7-2008 at 22:44:08 from 208.17.34.25    

In the last 2 weeks Dan Miragliotti is making a hard charge to become the most hated ref in MMA. He’s still got some bad calls to go to beat Mazzigatti, but he’s surpassed Herb Dean easily.

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Eddy Garcia Says, in 6-7-2008 at 23:07:55 from 75.74.215.34    

i would have to say the stoppage was a little too early, but not way too early. i dont think those shots were really affecting Vera, but i always tell people that you cant just lay there and cover your face. you need to buck or try and roll.he was moving his legs,but just not trying hard enough to get out.having said that, we need to have a serious discussion with all the top guys in MMA about exactly what defines “intelligent defense”. in my opinion, covering your face when a guy is on top and pounding you is a very intelligent thing to do. i guess they just want to see a fighter trying harder to get out of the position.

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jibba Says, in 6-7-2008 at 23:09:51 from 71.178.131.91    

i dun like that ref

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gunnyhighway99 Says, in 6-7-2008 at 23:23:46 from 208.81.157.90    

I can’t believe this is the same piece of shit ref from the Kimbo fight!! This guy isn’t even consistent, except for the amount of payoff money they give him. This ref is an amateur and he sucks totally.

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bigm Says, in 6-7-2008 at 23:48:24 from 67.207.35.32    

Wow you guys got these fight up fast.
Thanks again

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incognito Says, in 6-8-2008 at 00:13:03 from 58.69.0.138    

“i personally would of liked it to go longer so you could of seen the carnage.” – j_satan_666

we wouldn’t be here complaining of the bad call if vera lost that way. of course you would say werdum was working him up with an armbar. if vera tapped because of the armbar as you were predicting to see, then we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. but that never happened. and some would say vera would’ve come back in the second round to beat on werdum. but that never happened. that is why we need a second fight, to validate this fight. the fight should almost always be decided on by the fighters. this is the best reason why.

and exactly, with a third of a minute remaining, he should have let it go. if vera was truly hurt, the rest period in between rounds would not have helped him, werdum would’ve still pounded him. if vera wasn’t truly hurt, then the second round would be war.

but then, WE DO NEED A SECOND FIGHT.

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Penn Legend Says, in 6-8-2008 at 00:45:12 from 70.171.167.122    

vera was gonna get hurt anyways, dont ya think getting relently punched for another 20 secs by a 230 sumthing pound man is gonna knock ya out even if yur defending?

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durtykurty Says, in 6-8-2008 at 00:54:46 from 75.175.206.135    

I think we all know why big john left.I wouldnt be involved in this b.s.W.W.E,PRO BOXING AND NOW M.M.A $$$$$$$$$$ DESTROYS ALL SPORTS!!!!

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Dr. Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:10:07 from 70.75.10.131    

Miragliotta is a piece of shit.

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Dr. Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:13:43 from 70.75.10.131    

You hear that Miragliotta, you sir are a complete piece of shit. The second I saw your ugly ass face I knew the fight was going to be suspect. Congrats on being the a piece of shit. Herb Dean and Steve Maz. are happy you’ve been taking the rap for being, guess what… the biggest piece of shit ref in MMA. I hope you get hit by a double-decker bus.

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captain_america Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:16:51 from 98.226.37.233    

This is the same idiot ref who officiated the kimbo/thompson fight.

Just like everyone else, if refs mess up or do questionable work, they should not be able to ref the next time. I just dont understand why these idiot refs keep getting work.

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Niv Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:27:17 from 75.155.166.62    

I think the fight was stopped a little early, but that is debatable also. How can anyone honestly say that Vera was defending himself intelligently?

He was being beat on and he had his gloves in front of his face, shots were getting through so the ref does have a responsibility to ensure the fighters don’t get hurt unnecessarily.

Bottom line here is I’m on the fence leaning towards the fight was justifiably stopped, Werdum earned his victory.

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R3X Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:32:01 from 69.224.56.171    

WTF IS UP WITH THESE REFS LATELY????! jeez louise, let the fight play out instead of sabotaging it!

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license Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:34:39 from 76.185.22.165    

It just shows how the Kimbo fight was fixed for him to win. Kimbo was taking much more blows then this dude was. What a fucking joke.

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GuessWho Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:48:19 from 74.15.28.42    

103 hit it right on the head.. ive been saying this about Mazaggati since the “no talking” warning in the one fight I saw a little while ago.. I mean this guy hasn’t made a call that everyone has agreed with in how long?? UFC WHY WOULD YOU EMPLOY ANYONE WHO HAD A PART IN THAT ELITEXC i’ll never know

Mazaggati needs to find another job for real.. the guy couldnt call a coin toss

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Dagger Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:49:01 from 75.26.21.200    

Man, at least stopping the Kimbo fight was justifiable due to it being one of the worst fights in the history of MMA. Miragliotta actually did the viewers and MMA fans a favor in that because even he probably wanted that terrible fight to end. But this call here was just horrible. Could have been one of the best fights of the night, but this asshole had to ruin it. Somebody needs to can this fool!

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GuessWho Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:55:34 from 74.15.28.42    

I wonder how many ppl are gonna STOP watching UFC or MMA altogether that are interested.. because the refs are absolute GARBAGE… I know im considering it..

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adam pittman Says, in 6-8-2008 at 02:01:20 from 69.223.49.200    

This Miragliota character was paid to make sure kimbo beat thompson if he could,imo, and now he is making bad calls in other fights to make it look like thats his true officialing style, i see right through it, this ref is not a good ref at all and shouldnt be hired by any respectable organization

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Kimbo Slice Says, in 6-8-2008 at 02:12:52 from 66.27.173.232    

TOO EARLY!!!

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bmoore Says, in 6-8-2008 at 02:50:56 from 71.191.98.231    

I join the “I defended the Kimbo call, but not this one club.” Bad call. On another note though, Vera lost something since he smashed Frank Mir. I think he’s too small for the heavies anyway and he doesn’t seem to be strong enough for the beasts in the big boys division. But, on the point…Dan blew this one!

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Train Says, in 6-8-2008 at 03:00:00 from 72.178.243.98    

Yeah, again… if someone is pounding on you and ALL you’re doing is crossing your hands in front of your face… not trying to grab and pull them down, not trying to bridge out and hip escape how intelligently are you defending yourself.

He was mounted, Vera had no answers, ref stopped it. I’m really don’t think you’ve got to be out cold for the ref to say you’re done.

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REDRUM Says, in 6-8-2008 at 03:17:37 from 97.84.174.252    

GuessWho Says, in 6-8-2008 at 01:55:34 from 74.15.28.42 I wonder how many ppl are gonna STOP watching UFC or MMA altogether that are interested.. because the refs are absolute GARBAGE… I know im considering it..

I’m not there yet. I still love MMA, but if the officiating keeps going downhill, at some point I’d stop watching. Let’s hope it never goes that far.

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GRIMTHUG Says, in 6-8-2008 at 03:34:49 from 78.144.161.17    

I think the fight was stopped a little early, but that is debatable also. How can anyone honestly say that Vera was defending himself intelligently?

He was being beat on and he had his gloves in front of his face, shots were getting through so the ref does have a responsibility to ensure the fighters don’t get hurt unnecessarily.

Bottom line here is I’m on the fence leaning towards the fight was justifiably stopped, Werdum earned his victory.

(((insure that the fighter dont get hurt? they’re fighters and getting hurt is a part of thier jod. vera wasn’t hurt at all 20 seconds left why not wait till he tapped or give up his back or whatever fighters need to do when they know they’re in trouble. i think your just a big stupid fan of werdum who realy wanted him to win in any ways. most of werdum fans didn’t like it only you and what if werdum was on vera’s side you probably crying complaining about that shit. lol

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MarDizzLe Says, in 6-8-2008 at 04:45:39 from 76.198.93.129    

BULLS*IT STOPPAGE! first off he was intellegently blocking, second the shots he was taking werent very powerful, and third look at Vera’s face, no cut, no bruise, no nothing!!!!

very ineffective striking! VERA got screwed!!!

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Atom Says, in 6-8-2008 at 05:19:03 from 90.192.177.124    

Looks like mainstream mayhem for the sport now people!!
Now we’ve entered the realms of worldwide domination for MMA, i guess we have to accept more bad/sympathetic decisions for the sake of popularity over a good fight, til it ‘must’ be stopped rather than ‘predict’ its gona end soon!

I mean it fathoms me why Refs are happy to letby many hard kicks to the head, foreheads/eyes split wide open from elbows, pple bruised and battered for 15mins……but a few GnP shouts and NO WAY, THIS IS TOOOO MUCH FOR FIGHTER TO TAKE. PPLE CANNOT SEE THIS, I MUST STOP IT AT ONCE! Whers the damn consistency and context?

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Atom Says, in 6-8-2008 at 05:20:20 from 90.192.177.124    

WTF happened to ‘Keeping It Real’??

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Xhytype Says, in 6-8-2008 at 07:17:37 from 125.60.241.70    

That is ONE BIG BULL SHIT CALL!

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palito_lippi Says, in 6-8-2008 at 07:28:33 from 121.93.104.159    

Dana White have you read my comments about Kimbo and Thompson? oh men, what kind of ref you are Dan Miragliotta? the UFC must fire this kind of ref, Brandon is defending himself, can’t you see? and also he’s taking some punches, Big John please comeback in the UFC, for the million fan’s sake……

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thestank2004 Says, in 6-8-2008 at 08:22:53 from 98.221.212.171    

Vera was done he saved him a trip to the hospital

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whewe Says, in 6-8-2008 at 09:25:48 from 78.100.3.3    

what the F### was that???? damn DAN!!!!! where’s BIG JOHN?! Dana White should do sumtin bout this ref. must have a rematch!

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yoububg Says, in 6-8-2008 at 09:30:13 from 71.168.98.165    

Dan needs to be fired bring back Big John, I am so sick of every fucking fight being called early.

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cw0207 Says, in 6-8-2008 at 09:51:40 from 67.187.61.193    

I think Dan is making side bets he lets Kimbo get beat on for over a min but stops the Vara fight with 15 sec left in the round come on this cat has a booky. He needs to be under investigation he’s making a mokery of the sport.

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cw0207 Says, in 6-8-2008 at 10:05:44 from 67.187.61.193    

Rogan needs to be a ref

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J34nLuC Says, in 6-8-2008 at 10:29:23 from 189.95.118.27    

Look… I know the ref stop soon this fight.
But vera don’t fight well.. and Vera say shit sometimes
Werdum is a great fighter!

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Jasonicus Says, in 6-8-2008 at 10:29:27 from 71.240.38.3    

Wow! I am so pissed watching this. What the hell is wrong with this ref? I am just speechless. Vera was in no danger.

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Darkangel Says, in 6-8-2008 at 12:24:09 from 74.166.70.38    

It’s not the UFC that should be blamed for the refs.

The UFC doesn’t actually hire refs anymore, they are employed by the State Athletic Commisions. It just so happens that the UFC owns the two best mainstream MMA promotions right now.

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Matman Says, in 6-8-2008 at 12:37:51 from 74.56.135.185    

I miss Big John! Why did he quit again?

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obluso Says, in 6-8-2008 at 12:57:40 from 68.217.165.145    

inconsistent ref is bad for mma. too bad it wasn’t Yves Lavigne. he lets fighters fight.

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bosse Says, in 6-8-2008 at 13:24:35 from 99.255.17.141    

Admin: there is fighter bashing, and then there is ref bashing, why notdelete negative comments about refs and offcials also?

MMA fans are so fickle and idiotic it surprises me sometimes. First you guys criticize Dan last week in the kimbo fight saying the 2nd round stoppage wasn’t fast enough, and now when Dan tries to fix this and err on the side of precaution and safety by ending the vera fight in a timely fashion, he’s called out for it.

MMA fans need to make up their mind, it seems you can never satidfy them, first its too slow, now too quick. I bet many of you guys think this is a ll a ‘conspiracy’ right? Pathetic.

You guys don’t even pay for the PPV and aren’t supporting the sport, so shut da f up and enjoy what you are getting for free you bums.

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mike Says, in 6-8-2008 at 13:35:55 from 99.246.57.212    

damn that was a bullshit stoppage, and it was a good fight, going back and forth. you can’t talk shit on vera he put up a good fight, and might have won had it kept going. i personally think werdum would still take it, but i guess now we’ll never know.

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103 Says, in 6-8-2008 at 17:29:48 from 75.120.32.156    

If covering with your hands and forearms while mounted isn’t considered intelligent defense…..then what the hell is Tito Ortiz going to do for a living? See Ortiz vs. Couture for reference.

No, he wasn’t bridging. No, he wasn’t pulling down on Werdum. Werdum was raining punches at a furious pace. Perhaps Vera didn’t want to eat 3 or 4 of them to make the reach up for Werdum’s body. IMO, he was more likely betting that the pace of Werdum’s punches couldn’t continue and he was attempting to weather the storm and let him punch himself out making the escape easier.

Or…perhaps he had an idea of the time remaining and was willing to just block until the round ended. Either way, without a rematch, I’m calling bullshit on the stoppage.

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ryanr5150 Says, in 6-8-2008 at 17:38:49 from 207.200.116.6    

fuckn bs that pissed me off ufc sucks!!
never paying for fight again!

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Us Says, in 6-8-2008 at 18:04:05 from 80.7.114.53    

Are you guys watching this to see a guy get his face punched in with little or no protection? He was mounted by a worldclass bjj player and taking punches without giving anything back or moving out of the bad position he was in. Ok, its a fight game maybe he couldve sweeped a worldclass bjj expert or rode out the beating until round 2….or maybe he’d take 20 more punches to the face leaving him with a concussion that didnt need to happen. Its a sport not a streetfight.

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mefninja Says, in 6-8-2008 at 19:10:41 from 69.156.21.183    

pre mature stoppage.. ref sucks.. and vera is a idiot.. fight at 205 you fuck

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Dynamitek Says, in 6-8-2008 at 19:28:20 from 72.253.204.191    

the stoppage was early considering that Werdum does not have KO power and probably would not KO Vera, but i dont think it was horrible since Vera was put into a position where he could not fight back. The fight could have continued but i understand the argument why it was stopped. I’m happy because i picked Fabricio to win considering how underrated he is by n00bs that never heard of him until the arlovski fight, and at the same time overrate Vera as one of the best fighters in the world.

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adam Says, in 6-8-2008 at 19:35:36 from 69.223.49.200    

Bosse….in the kimbo fight the main issue the fans had was that Dan stopped the fight way early in the Kimbo fight because Thompson was still standing and fightin in the sloppy manner he had been fighting the whole fight pretty much, it was back and forth James got hit then Thompson got hit, the stoppage was the craziest weakest stoppage ive ever seen, Secondly, in contrast to the stoppage in the Kimbo fight the ref let kimbo take undefended elbows for 2 minutes in a row…..but he didnt let Branden vera take defended gloved punches for 20 seconds.
Fact is, Dan miragliotta, however you spell it, is a shit ref, who, if not being intentionally partial to Kimbo was in the very least inconsistant and erring majorly in his decisions in both these fights.

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MMA fan Says, in 6-8-2008 at 19:36:32 from 74.59.207.202    

Hahaha I think a lot of people here are Ufc fan , if you look at Verdum’s fight you would see he’s a machine he took out gonzaga on 2 occasions, this stop was shitty but I have seen way worse in Ufc. I definitely miss Pride where they did not stop the fight until one of the fighter was K.O or bloody and defenseless.About the Kimbo stoppage, no decent human being would had let Thomspon lose his ear which was clearly going to happen without the fight stoppage.

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adam Says, in 6-8-2008 at 19:36:50 from 69.223.49.200    

in my last post i said james got hit then thompson got hit, what i meant to say was “Kimbo got hit then James got hit”

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incognito Says, in 6-8-2008 at 21:36:51 from 210.213.195.112    

for one, the reason vera had his hands on his face and not all over werdum trying to grab him is you have to understand werdum is a world class jiu jitsu fighter. the reason he was punching away, not even worrying if he was hitting him or not was because he wanted vera to do exactly what you people call intelligent defense, to try and extend his arm and grab werdum, so werdum would catch it and get an arm triangle or an arm bar. vera was intelligently defending because he knew about that. so the best way to keep from getting that arm caught was to defend the way he was defending. and he did a good job in that. he was using his hips to try and get werdum off-balance but it didn’t work. so that was the next best thing to do. i keep my opinion that they should fight again.

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logic Says, in 6-8-2008 at 22:14:27 from 65.5.215.140    

DAN MIRAGLIOTTA is a joke and I can’t believe the UFC would allow this prick to ref a fight for their org. after that Elite XC freak show he helped put on.

He allows Kimbo to take roughly 70 punches, elbows, and “forearms” (as he said)without a stopage and he stops this. He is garbage!

It would only be fair for the UFC to require DAN MIRAGLIOTTA to fight Vera in a redemption fight. Then let Thompson kick the shit out of him, then let Kimbo get in a few punches for allowing him to take 70+ punches without stepping in to save him.

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Plague Says, in 6-8-2008 at 23:56:01 from 205.233.198.246    

Dan Miragliotta is pahetic. Kimbo vs Thompson was fixed and this stoppage was BS.

Dan is giving a bad reputation to MMA and I hate his guts for it. He should get fired ASAP.

This stoppage was BS because Vera was never rocked or in serious danger…and the round was coming to an end. It was too early.
Dan has failed miserably once again.

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David Says, in 6-9-2008 at 01:02:54 from 99.232.168.208    

why? the round was almost over too, could it not go through the refs head that a fighter knew it was the closing of the round and would rather take a few rather than give up their back to a bjj black belt?

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hman Says, in 6-9-2008 at 02:02:57 from 144.36.169.226    

Call a rematch! Brandon Vera vs. Dan Miragliotta.
If i were Brandon, I should have kicked Dan’s ass at the back stage!
I know Brandon will bounce back, forget about that nightmare, train harder and be ready for the next upcoming fights.
Proud Filipino!

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MMAGiantSilva Says, in 6-9-2008 at 02:14:21 from 71.76.239.218    

How much money does Dan have on Kimbo and Werdum?

Or is it Dana and Gary making the bets I am starting to wonder.

ref should be fired or dropped down to ref the amataur fights

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doctord453 Says, in 6-9-2008 at 03:25:26 from 69.40.21.151    

Miragliotta needs to find another career. But I’m glad to see everyone is at least concerned enough to spell his name right.

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dr. whoop ass Says, in 6-9-2008 at 12:34:46 from 70.174.151.212    

start the petition to pull the guy’s ref license absolute bullshit

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GRIMTHUG Says, in 6-9-2008 at 13:40:37 from 78.150.198.28    

incognito Says, in 6-8-2008 at 21:36:51 from 210.213.195.112

for one, the reason vera had his hands on his face and not all over werdum trying to grab him is you have to understand werdum is a world class jiu jitsu fighter. the reason he was punching away, not even worrying if he was hitting him or not was because he wanted vera to do exactly what you people call intelligent defense, to try and extend his arm and grab werdum, so werdum would catch it and get an arm triangle or an arm bar. vera was intelligently defending because he knew about that. so the best way to keep from getting that arm caught was to defend the way he was defending. and he did a good job in that. he was using his hips to try and get werdum off-balance but it didn’t work. so that was the next best thing to do. i keep my opinion that they should fight again.

I AGREE ON THIS

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bobinho Says, in 6-9-2008 at 19:31:27 from 88.105.76.21    

thompson and vera should both get to fight mirgliota or what ever the fuck he’s called while the other one refs it. lol. i’d pay to watch that

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whiskyredboy Says, in 6-9-2008 at 23:47:55 from 122.2.92.34    

I wanna see them fight again,and i want a diff. ref this time!!!!!!!!!got officials.

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bigbonesaw Says, in 6-10-2008 at 11:43:14 from 207.195.67.168    

Its sad when people start deciding whether to spend money on a PPV by who the ref is. I myself will second guess spending 55 dollars for a HDPPV if Dirty Dan is the ref for some or all of the main events. I thought I had lost all respect for him during the freak show Elite XC event, but I was wrong, there was still some respect to be lost, luckily Dirty Dan is a gamer and imposed his will on both these fighters by ruining a great fight.

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3starandasun Says, in 8-8-2008 at 07:42:42 from 66.198.41.11    

hahaha!!! hope next pay-per view DAn vs. Vera or Dan vs. Vera vs.Werdum.

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sir drinks a lot Says, in 10-17-2008 at 13:24:37 from 151.198.18.184    

steve would kick the shit out of all you fag posters,being he holds 2 black belts.


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