HomeFighter Talk · Grappling Eddie Bravo Talks About The Future State Of Jiu-Jitsu Tournaments Bruno April 9, 2013 Fighter Talk, Grappling 16 Comments Eddie Bravo speaks out about the past, present, and future state of Jiu-Jitsu Tournaments. Wants most tourneys to be submission only Jiu Jitsu. . . . Tweet Pin It Miesha Tate The SHOOT – Tate Talks Cat Zingano Fight Stefan Struve’s 1st Interview Since Broken Jaw From Mark Hunt 16 Comments ymbsnakeeye April 9, 2013 I think he is right in a way… jiu Jitsu will never make it main stream the way it is now. It will keep away the wrestlers who just do take downs and top control the whole match. I think that is one of the reasons it is the way it is. America is full of wrestlers. Not that there is anything wrong with wrestling… but a jiu jitsu tournament should have jiu jitsu. Log in to Reply Amosaback April 9, 2013 Great idea. I’d be MUCH more into watching jiu jitsu in a submission-only format. Log in to Reply trunk April 9, 2013 All i heard is bla bla bla im a tramp. Log in to Reply B-Real April 9, 2013 Good shit! I’m sold! I’ve been watching jiujitsu since 93′ starting out of a garage in hawaii, watching the oldest Gracie brothers (Relson and Rorion)and I’ve been thinking this same thing for the past 20 years. Eddie Bravo is saying best. I could see this concept packing the house. Think about it, Gi and No Gi competition where something is always happening (joint locks, arm/leg locks, stalling gets no love, only action and going for the kill) It’s like the excitment of stricking because of the sub after sub attempts. Reall good stuff! Can’t wait! Log in to Reply michael19819 April 9, 2013 submission only!!!!!!!!!! yes!!!!!! Log in to Reply AOPrinciple April 9, 2013 I like that idea quite a bit. I haven’t competed in tournaments, or anything like that, but I pacing and strategy is different if the goal is a submission and not just “to win”, per se. The goal of Jiu Jitsu is to submit, anyway, right? Log in to Reply foxy shazam April 9, 2013 I agree there should be no points for dominant posistions etc., but what about attempts/defence? Without any structure it will result in a bunch of draws among the elite, i do like the idea though. I wish there was a way to incorporate this to mma too. Log in to Reply skullhead April 9, 2013 No sub tournies are a great idea. If u think about it though..no one would do them better than the IBJJF.. they could make a new division and let people do it. People take for granted that they do a pretty darn good job and they have done a lot to help create many of the jiu jitsu superstars. Props to Carlos Gracie Jr 4 that. Almost all of the rules are there for a good reason (aside from a couple 50-50 details) and most of the time the refs dont get enough credit for how well they officiate which is a task more difficult than one might think. They go over the rules at meetings if you’re confused and once you know them it seems way less unfair. Often times what u think is bias is just a proper understanding of the rules. As far as restrictions ..most people benefit from the fact that they wont get healhooked and blow out their knee for life. Whether they appreciate it or not is a different story. There is no need to talk bad about point bjj in order to build up a sub-only style tournament, but Eddie (as much as I like him) is at it again trying to reinvent the wheel. Im just commenting on the way Eddie goes about it all in love with himself like he is creating it all. We all know that sub only isnt a new idea. The point system evolved for a reason. Reminds me of yrs ago when Eddie and his boyfriend Joe were going on about how the gi is an “outdated superhero outfit that serves no purpose” only to have all the top mma fighters almost immediately rebuke them by emphasizing their dedication to gi training. If Eddie was right then why do al the top nogi guys train with gi too? Because Eddie was way wrong on that. He says gi and no gi are as disparate as Greco Roman wrestling is to Judo (clenching vs pulling) but that analogy doesnt really work. The best guys in gi are pretty much the same as the best guys in nogi..it isnt like there is a whole crew of guys that do well in no gi and then a totally different crew that does good at gi..for the most part if what Eddie was saying is true then that would be the case. Not to mention we dont see Eddie competing anymore. He said “there is nothing left for me to do” .. correct me if im wrong but I dont think he has any world titles in gi or no gi. I think he got beat down so bad by Leo that he quit for life. He is the guy that did really good once and then hung it up to go hit the bong (and i got nothing against cannabis)..Sure he is an innovative master but not a champion and certainly not a role model for the youth. I saw his ad for “10th planet kids” and wondered.. what does he teach in his kid’s class, how to roll blunts and watch porn? One thing is for certain and that is that he really gets a lot of mileage out of his one submission of Royler..and credit to him for that.. but what else has he done? Why is he so passionate about this all of a sudden? Is he even involved or did he just show up and start blathering into the mic? What happened to that stupid combat jiu jitsu he was promoting last year? Maybe he is upset that 10th Planet doesnt do too well in the big point tournaments..but I dont think that they would do much better in a sub-only tournament. The best guys would still win that format too. Just like many if not most of the best bjj guys in mma all come experienced in a point bjj background and many like Benson still do it! So once again Eddie is barking up the wrong tree. He just thinks he is Mr. cutting edge by attacking traditional ways of BJJ. It is his M.O. Training only nogi would be like an artist saying “drawing is bad! one must only paint in oil”..when all the masters do both. It isnt a matter of one being better….they are both good. BOTH are GOOD. Log in to Reply trunk April 9, 2013 Bla bla bla and more bla talk too mutch that is the problem Log in to Reply Adonis April 9, 2013 he’s right. bjj sucks ass most times and it will never rise from a sideshow to mma unless it can be made more dynamic. Log in to Reply Moon April 9, 2013 the matches would take forever… Log in to Reply Jo April 9, 2013 Point wrestling is always boring to watch. Submission jitz (no gi), senegalese ‘lamb’ style wrestling (no boxing), sumo and even Scottish Backhold style is all fun to watch. No points. Quick ‘knock out’ style. Maybe go best out of 3 for some styles, but no judges. Log in to Reply Doyle Brunson April 9, 2013 This guys wants grappling only only because hes to much of a ***** to take a punch. Panzy. Log in to Reply D April 9, 2013 Have two 3 minute rounds, whoever submits the other guy wins the round. If there’s a tie after two there’s a third round. A draw means both fighters lose. Just a thought. Log in to Reply julian moran April 9, 2013 The idea is that their is a time limit to the match. If no sub. occurs both competitors are eliminated. Log in to Reply keyboardcowboy April 11, 2013 Helio would say, “you cant beat me.” he might not submit you, but you wont submit him. whats the point of stalling, then? you dont really win. congrats! youre a wet blanket. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.