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BigSlick Says, in 4-21-2008 at 12:08:38 from 58.104.169.22    

Sick Sub. Herman really needs to work on his triangle defense. Definantly an illegal knee thrown by Herman as well.

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gunnyhighway99 Says, in 4-21-2008 at 12:46:48 from 68.190.87.8    

I’ve never heard of either of these two. I think maybe the red head was on one of the TUF shows, but I can’t remember. It’s only round two and both are gassed and they look like amateurs. Herman escapes a triangle and then goes right back into one? Give me a break.

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Dogpitt Says, in 4-21-2008 at 12:47:26 from 89.243.15.146    

That was one impressive submission.
Looks like both guys will need to work on cardio so more though.

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KieranMac Says, in 4-21-2008 at 12:54:20 from 68.48.252.138    

Nice, unexpected finish – thought we were looking at a good turnaround there.

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tonysnow Says, in 4-21-2008 at 13:02:22 from 68.49.145.10    

wow those guy were both really gassed in that 2nd round I had to check to make sure it was the 2nd because it looked like the third I really want to know what happend in the first round now……….. Atleast Herman got submitted like a man and didn’t “tap out like a little bitch”

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No Name Says, in 4-21-2008 at 13:24:15 from 24.149.157.84    

Well Herman doesnt tap. You have to give him that the guy will go the whole mile.
That said its 2 times now that Herman got caught.

Good match Ed work on the Triangle defense but dont let it consume you.

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Sunfish Hero Says, in 4-21-2008 at 13:32:17 from 75.111.34.153    

Poor Ed Herman. He’s up and down, you never know what to expect from him.

I hate people like that, you know what happens if you don’t tap due to your foolish pride? Your career ends, break your arm badly enough, or leg, and get choked out long enough to cause brain damage. Your career as a fighter is over, all because you didn’t want to look like “a little bitch.” These guys are professional athletes, it’d be stupid for them to let themselves get injured badly for a reason as dumb as that. Get a brain man. He probably didn’t think he was going to go out like that, It’s possible he wasn’t being choked, but the blood was being cut off from his brain, which is considerably more dangerous.

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mefninja Says, in 4-21-2008 at 15:28:26 from 70.48.231.104    

lol triangled again.. ed herman talks alot for a completely average fighter.. i even remeber on TUF the way he ran his mouth and he lost to grove.. who is below average.

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medsal Says, in 4-21-2008 at 16:09:59 from 71.102.140.118    

you cant tap when your unconcious!

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Ground-Game Says, in 4-21-2008 at 16:46:17 from 72.201.143.62    

I agree Sunfish. Tapping doesn’t make you a “bitch”
It’s a VERY unprofessional attitude to have. SHAME on Goldberg for saying that…there are too many knuckleheads that will try JJ at home without knowing what they’re doing or how dangerous it is. Hold on long enough and a choke is fatal.

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BruceAZ Says, in 4-21-2008 at 18:26:22 from 63.249.55.22    

umm the reason people keep saying the whole tapping out like a bitch comment is because hermans last defeat by triangle he tapped and said, “he wished he never tapped out like a bitch”, so i guess this time around he thinks he took it like a man or something….watch some more mma people before opening your mouths

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NameNotRequired Says, in 4-21-2008 at 18:37:13 from 71.220.17.130    

Sick fight. Maia does JJ at the same level that Silva strikes. Definitely the best pure jj in UFC. He just needs a way better gas tank and to improve his hands and he should start becoming a contender within the next year. Hell he even tooled okami in ADCC, but that’s not mma so it probly means nothin.

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Shaun SToffer Says, in 4-21-2008 at 18:44:21 from 67.34.181.149    

True mostly everyone taps. Not tapping I believe though does show a slight sense of toughenss or refusal to except defeat, maybe not smart but shows some sort of heart. Ed did tap to a triangle though from jasona macdonald, which goes to show the inconsistency of herman.

But hey once your caught your caught, some submissions it gets to the point that you can’t escape once it’s locked in tight enough for long enough. Got to tap out or pass out.

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Fodão do Brasil Says, in 4-21-2008 at 19:27:37 from 200.168.21.146    

Demian Maia = Futuro Campeão do UFC

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DeLaSeoul87 Says, in 4-21-2008 at 19:27:50 from 35.13.16.70    

rotfl Herman was NOT paying attention cause Maia pulled the same exact transition to the triangle twice in a row, within 30 seconds. Also, don’t forget that chokes SUCK, especially when you have a wrist compressing your adams apple/windpipe… it can be quite painful.

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Matt Says, in 4-21-2008 at 19:59:05 from 24.18.254.204    

There is a big difference between not tapping to a blood choke and not tapping to an arm or leg lock. With the blood choke there is pretty much no risk of injury, simply passing out does not take you out of commission for long. On the other hand an armlock can be career ending, so you are a moron if you absolutely refuse to tap.

As this was a bloodchoke it wasn’t necessarily stupid of Herman to go out, just stubborn. However the fact that he promised he wouldn’t tap next time (when MacDonald triangled him) does show a fair amount of will and determination as a fighter.

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Jason Says, in 4-21-2008 at 20:12:47 from 70.19.181.167    

Sunfish writes:
It’s possible he wasn’t being choked, but the blood was being cut off from his brain, which is considerably more dangerous.

A brain doesn’t care how it’s being depleted of oxygen, just that it’s happening.

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boaluta Says, in 4-21-2008 at 21:53:57 from 216.186.171.3    

Never heard of Maia? He’s a legend. His BJJ is phenomenal. I actually never gave Herman a chance in this one, although he’s improved a lot since TUF.

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Corey Says, in 4-22-2008 at 00:52:08 from 12.157.134.103    

So um.. hermes was choked out.. but he was punched in the face and knocked out, while being choked out. That was freaking vicious. Im not sure why they called it a submission. I guess even if Maia hadnt beat him in the face, he still woulda lost, so they picked the default.

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Train Says, in 4-22-2008 at 02:14:57 from 72.178.243.98    

Herman’s a loud mouth ass. Nothing is more fun than seeing an ass get his ass kicked.

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Mike Says, in 4-22-2008 at 06:09:23 from 24.193.16.219    

Both guys were gasping for air in the second round. Herman was so exhausted he didn’t couldn’t defend himself for the relentless bjj moves that were being thrown at him. It goes to show you, no point in having awesome bjj moves, sledgehammer elbows and fists, and thunderous kicks and knees if there is no gas in the tank.

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OriontheKiwi Says, in 4-22-2008 at 12:23:56 from 128.172.247.75    

Darn… I like Herman. He has good ground and pound.

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Matt Says, in 4-22-2008 at 17:20:39 from 76.16.122.106    

gunnyhighway99 you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Demian Maia is THE best BJJ fighter to ever enter the octagon. He has won just about major Jiu Jitsu competition there is. He is 8-o in MMA. He will be winning a UFC title. Do some research before you leave ignorant comments like that.

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BakaSurvivor Says, in 4-22-2008 at 23:39:26 from 99.232.27.37    

Nice to see the MW division is starting to get some new contenders.

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Creonte Hunter Says, in 4-24-2008 at 02:33:32 from 68.96.250.152    

Demian Maia has a sick game!

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Stuart Says, in 4-24-2008 at 10:32:14 from 82.70.72.209    

At 4.28 in the video what is Herman doing? Like he is waiting for Maia to do something to him.

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troy Says, in 4-27-2008 at 01:46:00 from 81.66.238.225    

so funny , herman is really a son of bitch that was so cool to see this piece of shit get fucked

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Steamer Bean Says, in 4-27-2008 at 03:08:53 from 164.58.150.67    

I agree, tapping out is for bitches. Because laying limp on the mat while your opponent is celebrating (and not being able to shake his hand), then twitching/convulsing around a little before being filled in on where you are and how you got there makes you look like a real man. They should do a before and after IQ study to see how many points it costs each time you decide not to be a little bitch.

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davey Says, in 4-28-2008 at 00:53:04 from 12.206.153.198    

herman sucks ass he gets caught over and over

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bbd Says, in 4-29-2008 at 10:32:43 from 24.158.15.42    

maia actually beat jacare in a sub match – easily the best sub set of anyone in mma imo (yes better than penn’s..)

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jaydee Says, in 5-2-2008 at 12:59:13 from 71.38.152.28    

I love to listen to the overweight, beer drinkin, pot smokin, couch tatters talk shit about the conditioning of these two fighters…bottom line to the experienced grapplers of the world is a tremendous amount of energy was exerted in the first round defending a very talented apponent ..that was expelling an equal amount of energy to gain advantage…try it some time for say…five minutes..let me know whatcha think lardass…I am a Herman fan..always brings game to the table…his fights are fun to watch.

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Savate Says, in 5-5-2008 at 21:32:43 from 96.224.207.137    

Herman gets his ass handed to him everytime he faces a quality opponent. I liked the fight when MacDonald opened his scalp…that was a good one.

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Fatfinn Says, in 5-7-2008 at 06:52:38 from 194.215.7.82    

Demian Maia is VERY good grapler,

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt.
BJJ three-time World Cup champion,
BJJ two-time World Champion,
Pan American champion 2006,
ADCC champion 2007,
ADCC 2nd place in 2005,
Brazilian champion,
7x state champion,
4x Brazilian team champion.

I think there’s even more… UFC belt soon ;)

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jujiman Says, in 5-9-2008 at 11:39:05 from 70.232.77.134    

I would like to see some of u fuckers fight at that pace for 8 minutes and then say that Demian and Ed are in bad shape.

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SuchaPimp Says, in 5-9-2008 at 19:05:44 from 76.20.106.106    

Ed Herman is so overrated. All he really has is a decent right hand and a decent chin. Time and time again he gets submitted. Is it just me or was a guilitine choke available for him at like anytime during this fight, and yet he loses to someone ive never heard of and probly wont ever hear of again…sad.

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jaydee Says, in 5-10-2008 at 23:05:46 from 71.214.99.207    

Ed Herman is not overrated. Just happens that “someone you have never heard of” is one of the best, if not the best BJJ fighters in the world. I can understand why you think Herman is overrated, as you obviously don’t know shit about the game, its strategy, or it’s fighters. Ever thought about changing your spectator sport preference to say …Golf ? It’s easier understand than MMA, but your still gunna struggle with the TOP names in the sport.

If you get a chance, ask Demian Maia if he thinks Ed Herman is overrated. My guess is he doesn’t share your opinion. He knows Shortfuse is one bad mf.

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Nick_V03 Says, in 2-27-2009 at 13:09:19 from 71.254.96.150    

Highway needs to educate himself when it comes to MMA. Maia has the best MMA BJJ in the UFC.


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