HomeFight Shows Dana White Explains Why Shogun Did Not Earn Title Shot At UFC on FOX 4 Bruno August 8, 2012 Fight Shows 26 Comments Dana White Explains Why Shogun Did Not Earn Title Shot At UFC on FOX 4. Tweet Pin It Wagner Prado Very Frustrated By Eye Poke In UFC Debut With Phil Davis Lyoto Machida UFC on FOX 4 Post Fight Interview 26 Comments FLYINGKNEEss August 8, 2012 shogun needs one more fight to prepare him for jon. I believe that he can take him but he needs to be well prepared. One more win then his cardio will be up to par and he will build his confidence up. He needs to fight a wrestler maybe phill davis or rashad evans to prepare him for jones. Log in to Reply marvelous mad madam mim August 8, 2012 shogun needs to learn to move his head. his footwork is shit too. maybe from the bad knees idk but i believe any fleet footed fighter like machida or gusstafson would just dance around him and pick him apart. vera could of won that fight if he didnt back up so damn much, move to the side ya idiot lol shogun is one of my favs but man he moves like an old man Log in to Reply Anwar August 8, 2012 To marvelous You new in the game? any fleet footed fighter like machida or gusstafson would just dance around him and pick him apart?????? Shogun already KTFO of machida and everybody gave him the W in the first fight. It seems like you dont know who shogun is. One bad performance and people start bitching. Log in to Reply marvelous mad madam min August 8, 2012 @ first off shogun beat machida twice he was probably injured and thats just his muay thai style and he said to joe in the ring that it wasnt his best performance he probably didnt have a good fight camp, preparation, or injured… Log in to Reply Stranger August 8, 2012 Its better for Shogun to not get a shot right away. If Jones beats Hendo then it would set up Jones/Machida 2 & Hendo/Shogun 2, which works out perfect in my eyes. Vera vs Bader too, they would (should) both be very motivated for that fight. Log in to Reply MMA_KING August 8, 2012 Shogun is always a disappointment in the cage. His UFC career minus the lucky Machida KO has been a joke. He almost lost to MARK COLEMAN!! Forrest Griffin choked him out and Brandon Vera went 4 rounds with him. Poor Shogun…. Log in to Reply YMCA August 8, 2012 @marvelous mad madam mim did you forget that Shogun beat Machida (knocked him out) and probably beat him the first fight they had (very very close decision). Log in to Reply sidekix August 8, 2012 An idea i have heard people talk of that sounded cool was shogun vs machida 3 and then the winner fights jones… Log in to Reply samsonite August 8, 2012 @MMA_KING let’s not forget that the loss to Forrest was after a major knee operation and so was the Coleman fight. AND he avenged his loss to Griffin with a brutal KO. I do agree however that his fight with Vera was less then stellar… Both seemed exhausted after RD1…WTF! Log in to Reply uncledana August 8, 2012 dragon is hitting his prime as shogun is steadily declining. i dont see a third fight going well for rua. Log in to Reply Rugburn August 8, 2012 @4M you are absolutely correct. Shogun loves to just stand in front of his opponents and brawl. He takes alot of damage and its starting to build up. He really needs to work on fighting like a fencer(Machida). But his style makes great fights!! I don’t know what to tell you bc he beat Machida with his style twice. But with Jones he better work on dancing and using angles like Dominic Cruz bc it will be a repeat of his last defeat. But then again, Bones caught him early with a flying knee and Shogun was from then on out in survival mode. This fight showed that he can stand in front of HW’s and take their shots and finish them. If Bones rematches, I believe Shogun will use this same brawling strategy and this time finish him. Unless he gets caught early with a flying knee again. We already know Bones has no KO power in his punches or kicks!! Also Shogun was no where near 100% in his first fight vs Jones!!! Log in to Reply wcoastassassin August 8, 2012 @Stranger I believe Bader would kill Vera which is why Shogun is not fighting for the title, Dana knows this Log in to Reply anderson cheats August 8, 2012 Shogun didnt look so Hot,he doesnt deserve a shot at the title yet,if they fought again Lyoto would beat him. Log in to Reply ThatDude August 8, 2012 Well see what happens… Takes a chug of water Log in to Reply caxias August 8, 2012 Shogun have not yet realized that the sport evolved and he needs to make changes. Its hard for me to say that specially because I am a proud brazilian. He needs to invest some more in his future otherwise he will be done soon and became a gate keeper, and that will be sad. Log in to Reply freee August 8, 2012 can we stop saying that shogun beat machida twice? LOL. yeah, he threw some leg kicks. big deal. Machida won the first fight. stop whining about it still. Log in to Reply glenn August 8, 2012 shogun is done to much knee injury,last 3 fight no legs kick what so ever Log in to Reply Rio_Warrior August 9, 2012 I wonder how the fact of Machida being ckoked out that way by JJ resonated in the world of karate and among his family. Glad to hear lyoto is hungry to another fight with JJ. As for Shogun, to beat JJ he needs to be back at his Pride shape and stop accepting taking so may hist during his fights, this extra shots he take may give him a shorter career as a top fighter. Log in to Reply UnbanNickDiaz August 9, 2012 Ya’ll forgettin about Gustafson. he might have what it takes to beat Jon Jones. Machida looked Anderson Silva -like even though Bader kinda just stood there. And Jones owned Shogun so bad that I dont want that rematch Log in to Reply thaddiuslustre August 9, 2012 Vana white & all you fools are a bunch of idiots! white criticizes Rua but on the other hand he knows damn well it’s precisely the type of fight he ****ing needed for his little deal with fox(free on TV). You all think the same old Machida evasive performance concluded with a predictable KO is what kept the viewers intrigued? Hell NO! what they wanted & got was a truly exciting back-n-forth fight between Rua & Vera; that’s what kept them tuned in. **** ufc & the unified rules for castrating real MMA/ValeTudo! PrideFC has been the epitome of MMA thus far! a)10min. 1st rd. b)Ring(as opposed to over-sized octagon that only promotes running & back-peddling) c)ANY kick or punch should be legal(except groin or rabbit obviously)whether standing or on ground! 4point attacks, stomps etc. d)elbows while standing ONLY(on the ground, seldom produce KO’s just maim & cut) e)eliminate the inapplicable to MMA! borrowed from boxing bullshit 10point must system nonsense! f)judge fight in its entirety. Log in to Reply thaddiuslustre August 9, 2012 caxias all the more reason why you(a Brazilian) should know that it’s thanks to this lame brand of watered down MMA promulgated here in the States by ufc, unified rules, Vana white, marc RATner & co. That Shogun Rua’s arsenal has been completely deemed illegal. Even this very fight with Vera could of ended early in Shogun’s favor on several occasions had it been in Japan due to 4point attacks & stomps. Log in to Reply mmafan11 August 9, 2012 Shogun is past his due date he needs to RETIRE. Log in to Reply Iron_Cobra August 10, 2012 I think this was a tune up fight for shogun. It seemed liked he was working on some of the weaker parts of his game. More take downs and g/p. Shogun should take it easy he’s been in a bunch of tough fights. Then let the title fight come to him. Plus shogun vs Vera was stylistically a tougher fight oppose to machida vs bader. Everybody saw that ko coming. Shogun passed on Glover Teixeira bc nobody knows who he is except joe rogan. Log in to Reply screwballhk August 11, 2012 No, he passed on him because he didn’t want to lose to an unknown. (which would’ve happened) Log in to Reply mystiso August 11, 2012 because he looked slow and shitty Log in to Reply pac144 August 12, 2012 shogun needs cardio and needs to learn to manage his cardio he goes all out in the first then nothin. he wont beat jones if jones wasnt 6’5” we wouldnt even be talking about him i still havent seen him put someone to sleep Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.