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dirty 7-30No Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 06:14:31 from 99.227.13.44    

Ahhhh this fight…. was entertaining, the commentating was extremely biased. A fight that was six years in the making only had 3 rounds to be settled… hardly enough time. What stopped this fight from being a classic is the 3 round limit. I remember when Sakuraba got to fight Royce Gracie… it was unlimited time… the fight went on for OVER 1 HOUR!!! finally when the ref realized that Gracie wasn’t fighting to win but to survive it was stopped. If the fight had be stopped in 3 rounds it would have settled noting…. kind of like this fight, it really didn’t settle anything, just a win for Liddell which is what the UFC wanted. Too bad… specially seeing Liddell run away for the last half of the last round… too bad he was too chicken to try to finish it…. Rematch any one?

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PashaNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 06:31:44 from 70.70.133.73    

heavy and light heavy fighters in pride not large and strong as ufc fighters

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TKO911No Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 07:11:28 from 68.78.180.178    

Rampage was from pride..

Anyways it was a good fight. I agree 5 rounder woulda been nice but thats title fights so 3 round is all this one got. 1st rd was a little dull but they picked it up. Loved that backup to the wall I though Wandy was hurt lol but suprise. I thought chuck would win this fight though. It seemed like chuck got a little star struck. He was the man for a while there and lot of partying caught up with him and I think he didn’t train like he needed too. After those 2 losses though they were saying he was back and this was a good fight but I wanted to see a finish. Chuck coulda put him down in the 3rd if he tried to but he really wanted to make sure he got the win cuz if he lost this he’d take a fall not only from ufc standpoint but as well in the entertainment industry.

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#1 SHOGUN FAN (RICK AZ)No Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 07:14:59 from 68.3.134.33    

Good fight to Chuck. Wish Wanderlei would have took the fight to the legs of Chuck a little more… But, Chuck will never hold the belt with Jackson still fighting and am sure Dana knows this… Can’t wait to see Shogun back in the mix (YOUR SOON TO BE 2008 LIGHT HEAVY WEIGHT TITLE HOLDER.)

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BlackSpoonNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 07:21:58 from 210.185.15.87    

Only one judge had any brains. I cant see how anyone scored all 3 rounds to chuck. I’m very upset that Wandy lost =(

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Take1DoNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 07:25:25 from 76.170.119.171    

Close fight and very entertaining to say the least. The six years in the making was worth the wait for this epic battle. I agree that Rogan’s commentating was very bias obviously for Chuck. I saw it as a split decision, with R1 & R3 for Chuck and a close R2 for Wanderlei. I looked like Wanderlei had Chuck in trouble at the end of R2. R3 was all Chuck, but in the last minute of the round he was out of gas. It seemed like Wanderlei had more to give….had it been a 5 rounder, who knows, Wanderlei might have won it. Nonetheless it was an excellent fight, one of the best from recent memory. Thanks for posting it.

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howardNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 08:19:31 from 72.215.222.135    

I can’t give a fight to a so called champ. Chuck ran the whole rest of the third round. Kinda had to I guy a fight for running. I lookied like chuck had him for a minute, but he stopped Ithink he know wandy was baiting him in via Ali. Just my two cents.

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YHVHNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 08:31:05 from 87.94.16.248    

American judges are so biased. Do win against an american in ufc you have to submit or knock him out.

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MarkNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 08:55:41 from 86.141.99.69    

This fight was fixed. Plain and simple.

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doctord453No Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 09:28:05 from 67.140.228.249    

Were the judges watching this fight? Or did they tune in just in time to hear Joe tell them who won. Silva is a much better fighter on so many different levels it isn’t even funny. Chuck should consider himself lucky to have ever won against Tito Ortiz much less Wanderlei. I felt that Silva won the first and second rounds. Not to mention after getting into trouble in the third round, he still pushed the fight foward. Where as Lidell started running away and did for the rest of the round. Chuck is a chicken little…

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ChicagojeffNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 09:35:19 from 24.98.83.148    

Chuck won the fight clearly.. i think he got the better end of the exchanges in round one. Round two was pretty close.. Chuck stole it at the end possibly but Vandelei won the earlier minutes of round two and stalked Chuck. Round three was Chucks.. but i was disappointed when at 2:29 he backed off instead of trying to finish Silva.. i think 29-28 Weeks had it right. Possibly Chuck was concerned that Vandelei was playing possum with him. I wouldn’t see this as a welcome back Chuck.. i think he is damn sure on the downside of his career hill.

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KAKIHARANo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 10:16:25 from 69.79.54.9    

WTF!!!!!!!!!! This Axe Murderer isnt the same guy who destroyed Rampage in pride 28, that was a strong savage wandy, now he is a lame, he didn’t even try to hurt Chuck, no knees to the face cero aggressivity cero sadism cero massacre ¡¡¡¡What A Disappointment!!!! all this years waiting for this?

PLEASE FEDOR COME TO UFC AND PUT SOME ORDER YOU ARE OUR ONLY HOPE

Anyway, good for Rampage cause he seems to be the only pride fighter who wins in the cage…..

pd: Please excuse my english

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I know MMANo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 10:51:17 from 99.246.129.176    

Wanderlei was really disappointing in my humble eyes. He didn’t press Chuck, as he typically does and where was that sparkle in his eye that we grew to love while watching him in Pride and Vale Tudo. It looks like the American culture/money has tamed this Brazilian’s ferocity. Chuck Liddell is as overrated as they come. Sure, he possesses a strong MMA resume…until 2007, but Wanderlei shouldn’t have been intimidated by a guy who lost to Mrs. Keith Jardine. Silva is a warrior and here’s hoping that he regains his will to tear his opponents apart.

Would love to see Wanderlei and Houston Alexander in 2008. It has slug-fest written all over it!

Piped!

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PooCocktailNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 11:03:16 from 76.176.18.51    

Not what I expected. Chuck was just trying not to lose during the last round. He wasn’t all out like I thought. Wandi didn’t engage other than with boxing. Where was Wandi’s clinch, kicks and ground game? Odd. The way you beat Chuck is by taking him out of his game. Wandi just played right into Chucks game.

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AndrewNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 11:28:56 from 204.111.113.17    

I LOLed at the end of the 2nd round when Wanderlei pulled Chuck to the ground and Rogan screams “Chuck gets a takedown” I agree the commentating was biased, it was a close second round, but unfortunately I’m afraid Chuck won that 2nd round purely because of his “takedown”

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DrewNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 12:35:51 from 24.150.124.185    

I know the Silva fans are disappointed, but Liddell clearly won the fight. I had him winning all three rounds. Round two is the only round you could arguably give to Silva. I would like to see Chuck use more knees in the clinch. I think he might’ve been able to finish him with those. As for running away, I don’t think he was running. But the man was tired and Silva did nothing to try to attack him, so it is what it is. I say put Liddell against Machida for the #1 contender fight and Jardine against Silva.

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Say It SimpleNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 12:37:07 from 70.120.236.89    

That is not the same Silva that was destroying people. Don’t think the judges were baised, just watch the fight! I think Pride fighters have a little Octagon shock coming in, so if a fight does go the distance they are in survival mode. Just look at Shogun, I know he’s bad ass, but Forrest Griffin dealt with him like nothing.

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Say It SimpleNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 12:39:56 from 70.120.236.89    

DOCTORD453, I’m pretty sure you were the one not watching the fight!! As for Silv’s “better on so many levels”, they why didn’t he use any of those “levels” to win, all he did was swing for the fences. I know he has more skill than that, but HE DIDNT USE IT!!!!!!

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shaneNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 12:52:53 from 66.190.74.35    

What was that about pride fighters not being big and strong enough. In case you have forgotten Rampage is from pride, Shogun Rua, Fedor Emalienko(the most dominant heavyweight ever), Dan Henderson, Sakuraba, Wanderlei Silva, up until recently Pride was the premier mma event. Learn your stuff. Give Chuck credit he is the best 205 pounder ever. The only one he can’t beat is Rampage and Im not sure Rampage can beat him 3 times.

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torboldNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 12:58:53 from 74.136.147.237    

chuck liddell fought but he will be a champion again!!!!

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ACostaNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 13:05:43 from 88.157.200.39    

“Anyway, good for Rampage cause he seems to be the only pride fighter who wins in the cage…..”

What about Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (aka:Big Nog)?!

Anderson Silva also fought many years in pride as well and don’t forget pride fighters need to adjust to a diferent set of rules.

P.S:Wanderlei silva,Dan Henderson,Mauricio Rua and many others still got plenty to give in UFC world.

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Don CNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 13:48:05 from 99.248.52.193    

I agree with Dirty 7- 30…..a rematch would be nice to see.

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SanchoNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 14:25:58 from 71.228.54.183    

Silva looked way to small next to Chuck. Chucked toyed with him with his reach through the whole fight. Everyone who says its cause he’s not use to fighting in a cage? I really dont think it makes a big difference from a cage to a ring. I just think the ufc has some really good fighters compared to pride. Was the cage a disadvantage for Cro cop from getting knocked the f-ck out? I think Silva can be better at 185. Especially that he went the distance with Chuck. Styles make fights, maybe he’s different from the rest who got annihalated from Anderson Silva

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dirty 7-30No Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 14:52:09 from 99.227.13.44    

The cage is totally diff from a ring… the ropes on a ring can’t really be used for leverage not like the fence on the cage. SO not having the experience of fighting in a cage will alter the fighting style. That’s why UFC fighter like taking the fight to the fences vs Pride fighter, on the ground or on their feet, the UFC fighters know the fence is their best friend. Look what happened when Liddell when to fight in a ring.(A)Silva had lots of experience fighting in a cage, and so did (Q)Jackson. They weren’t solely Pride fighters. I would like to see Griffin fight Rua in a ring… I think he will get the QJ treatment…

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C dizzleNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:15:20 from 65.92.103.63    

This fight has fixed written all over it. Money corrupts all. Dana WHite could not allow wandy to make his ufc legand look like a joke..God I hate the UFC its the land of BULLSHIT and DISSAPPOINTMENT

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WARNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:16:31 from 66.41.114.43    

rampage is going to kick and punch the shit out of chuck the snow man liddel

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GavinNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:19:57 from 81.111.205.128    

Why do all you guys argue about UFC and Pride
Who cares about Fedor or ifRamgae was in Pride and Anderson Silva was in Pride cant you just enjoy good MMA fights.
Like schoolkids the fact is Chuck won fair and square
I do agree that Houston V Silva would be a great watch

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Lespaul2209No Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:49:03 from 96.2.104.126    

Wanderlei should have finished Liddell with the two chances he had. He knocked him down twice, but then let him back up. He wanted him to keep fighting. He should’ve got the knockout.

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NickNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:50:37 from 76.182.212.48    

Pore Silva i score 10 for chuck and 8 for Silva round 1-2 i giwe to silva 3 for chuck.Now for a Rogan woud be nice to see him fight any fighter in a cage .I mean he knows every fighter ther is all thers game plans all the time.So i am sure it will be a good fight.

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ricciNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:57:38 from 70.121.239.61    

this fight was clearly fixed…..there’s so much money in the game…..

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ChalingaNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 15:59:06 from 24.10.126.191    

I can’t believe so many people are complaining. Chuck was fighting like crap his past two fights. He let the fame get to his head and wasn’t training as hard. What we saw last night was the Chuck who knocked out Couture… twice, Ortiz… twice. He beat the crap out of silva (Im a silva fan) there is no doubt that he won that fight. So get over it!

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kappiNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 16:11:43 from 70.171.180.192    

Chuck earn the fight but not respect of hard core MMA fans.
He was trying to win the fight…thats all…He was backing up most of the time…Silva stand up to him but chuck went for a take down which shows that he was not ready to trade punches…This is much closer fight than score card shows…
Wanderli Vs Houstan would be better fight…

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Fixed FightNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 16:32:51 from 71.195.146.59    

This fight definitely had a degree of being fixed. In the first round chuck went down because he tripped and silva didn’t even rush him to seize the opportunity. This is completely uncharacteristic for silva. Then to top it off Chuck had every opportunity to finish silva at the end of the second round. Worst of all the third round chuck looks at the clock with about two minutes left to see how much time he had to waste. Chuck had several times in which he could have finished, but didn’t. I really think that silva has the toughest chin in the game or chuck wasn’t swinging for the fences. This was the least aggressive fight in silva’s career. Chuck trying to take siva to the ground was completely odd especially at the end of the third round. They were killing time in part and were probably told to avoid a knockout to guarantee a rematch!

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xavierNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 16:51:26 from 71.201.87.147    

ok this fight was not good.. wandy got stolen from this fight.. americans cheat by buying the judges,,, and of course joe is gonna be on chuck’s side
but what else can u expect foggot ameican fighters.. brazilian fighters rule

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FIg.MutantNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 17:03:41 from 71.133.163.21    

I was always a fan of both fighters, so was very neutral, Chuck won this fight decisively. However, I became an even bigger fan of Wandy after his post-fight in-ring interview with Rogan. Classy in defeat, and just loves to fight. Great fight, sorry Pride Huggers ;(

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AlexNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 17:51:58 from 99.233.6.210    

Commenting is always a bit off, but that’s the nature. I think some of you are putting too much weight on Chuck being a poster boy for UFC, since he is probably not the fan-favourite as much as he once was. Fans would be just as happy if he got knocked out brutally than if he won, which would not have been a truth two years ago.

Not a fix. Not Dana White pushing for a win.

However… Chuck is lazy. And Wanderlei looked off. Happy with the fight, but neither one of them are top 3 in the division.

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JeffNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 18:08:23 from 68.23.152.141    

I am not a Liddell fan, but I am not sure what you guys were watching that did not think that Liddell won this fight. Liddell won it easy. Silvia looks like to me he has some work to do.

I felt the fight was kind of boring. Maybe I just like the ground and pound better.

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Big BenNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 18:42:48 from 74.70.6.77    

Hey dirty 7-30 I’m calling you out cause you said that Chuck Liddell was running away the last 30 seconds of the 3rd round because if you think that he was running away you are obviously not a fan of “The Ice Man”. He is known for pushing the action and then backing off so his opponent chases him and he catches him off guard. This was actually a much better fight than I imagined it being. It had a bunch exchanges and even a couple take downs from Chuck. I was figuring it would be kind of like the Andrei Arlovski vs. Tim Silvia fight number 3 in that they were very slow and looked like they didn’t want to hurt each other but in fact this fight was exactly opposite of that and greatly surprised me…awesome fight and a rematch is def. in the making haha… CHUCK IS BACK BABY!!!!

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KevinNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 18:59:02 from 70.124.83.76    

You always see posts like “Yes he lost, but he wasn’t the same fighter”…or…”Fixed fight”…or…”bad judges”. If you really look at the fight and think about it, Wandy seemed to not be as effective without corners or ropes that a ring provides. Look at all of his fights and he’s always got someone trapped when he does the lion’s share of damage with his knees. Now look at this fight, Chuck always rotates when they exchange so he doesn’t get caught against the fence. Combine this with Chuck’s reach advantage and straight punches, and it’s fairly straight forward. And yes, Chuck was tired at the end and wasn’t looking to keep high powered exchanges going, so he went for the takedown. Punch a heavy bag for 15 minutes and you’ll have some sympathy for him and understand why he did that. His body was flush and he was obviously trying to pace himself at the end. Could Wandy win a rematch, sure. He just needs more cage work to learn how to cut off the octagon better so he can do what he does best, destroy you with knees. Accept the fight for what it was, great entertainment.

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FightMuttNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 20:21:59 from 65.10.15.156    

where was the silva that we all know? where were the elbows and knees? and that devastating clinch? what happened to silva? maybe he over trained. it’s a shame, he worked so hard only to lose. silva’s career is up in the air…

i wish silva had won. let’s face it, liddell can’t beat rampage. he will never beat rampage. so as long as rampage is champ, liddell won’t ever be. where else can lidell go at this point? move up to heavyweight? it would probably be better for the ufc if he did after all, the light heavyweight division is way over saturated with talent.

liddell deserves credit for being a great fighter but he is far from the best. he is not a complete fighter. and the way things are right now, i doubt he will get a title shot in this division. he would do better to jump up to heavyweight and try his luck there. but he can’t beat rampage or griffith. hell he can’t beat keith jardine.

maybe i’m being hard on the iceman… but i at least know for sure that he can’t beat jackson, not even on his best day and jackson’s worst.

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DavidNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 20:33:00 from 99.232.173.170    

whats with all the controversy, im a wandy fan and ill be the first to admit that chuck kicked his ass

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jricNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 20:46:02 from 162.84.191.149    

Say it aint so Wandy, say it aint so, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Great fight! regardless of whether chuchy won. NOt Wandy’s best performance, but after fighting in Pride for so long, he may have been a little coutious not to get disqualified. See the last seconds of round two where Wandy instict is telling him to kick chuck’s face in, but ref. Dean jumps in to save chuck. I thought when a person was laying on his back he could kick the oponent, but the person on top could not, although chuck did have both knees on the ground. Interesting.

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DogpittNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 20:47:30 from 79.65.154.104    

I had a feeling that Liddell would win the fight even before watching it.Silva has been a far more tentative fighter since the Crocop fight. Liddell on the other hand hasn’t changed despite his 2 losses.

I wanted Silva to win but nonetheless, I scored it 29/28 in favour of Liddell. One thing that did kinda frustrate me was that come round 3, Liddell knew that he was ahead and decided to let it go to decision, hence the two take-downs. These were merely an attempt to win the judges over.

I agree with other people in that 3 rounds wasn’t enough. I hate fights going to decision, especially considering the current point system is unsuitable for MMA. Silva might well have achieved the KO/TKO in round 4 or 5…

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Psycho_JoeNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 20:52:30 from 70.126.235.3    

I watched this fight, and I liked it.
In fact, I was a little awestruck by the toughness of Silva.
I watched Dan Henderson knock Silva’s block off.
It looked like chuck couldn’t knock him out, no matter how hard he hit him.
What I enjoyed the most, however, was the dirty boxing from chuck.
That little elbow against the fence move he did was very nice.
Wandi’s face split like a friggin’ water baloon.
Blood everywhere.
What I liked most about Wanderlei’s fight was his boxing.
Wanderlei has such a unique aggressiveness about him.
When chuck hit him in the first round, Wanderlei staggered.
Not a trick, he was hurting. When chuck came in, Wanderlei exploded.
Wanderlei did this time and time again, to chuck’s amazement.
Every time, he came out with a flurry of punches.
Chuck had to step back.
IMHO, a very evenly balanced match.
Either man could’ve been better.
I also aggree, that this fight was closer than the cards scored it.

One last thing, if you think pride fighters suck, remember Anderson Silva. Then remember that this is Wanderlei’s brother. As for Anderson, the man is a walking clip show, everyone knows it.
Just sayin’

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Black GerbilNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 20:57:35 from 84.13.255.101    

All i can say is what a fight. Respect goes out to both fighters. Went out all guns blazing, what the fans want to see.

Wooooo

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PennyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 21:10:45 from 76.184.17.158    

The fight was fixed I do not believe any sports outcome especially if owners are casino owners. Gambling is a huge money maker for the sports industry. Las Vegas was built on crime, distortion and all other unethical events, and they have tried to cover it up saying Las Vegas is no longer a MAFIA TOWN YEAH RIGHT!! Wake up People!! Furthermore, Why I can not find Wanderlei Silva post-fight interview on UFC but I can find Matt Hughes which he did not when either.

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mma 2 beNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 21:31:45 from 68.33.170.29    

Absolute bullshit. Silva should have destroyed liddel. Definetelly something funny about this fight shit probally was fixed

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stoneponyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 22:36:46 from 71.236.204.35    

People need to stop whining… Chuck won this fair and square. I would have lost money betting on this one, I’ve always been a big Wanderlei fan, but Chuck won. That’s it. He won decisively. The “knockdowns” were slips, Chuck wasn’t hurt. It would have been nice to see this extended to 5 rounds, but they both trained for and knew they were fighting in a 3 round fight. I don’t think Rogan was biased, nor were the judges, Chuck just out boxed Wanderlei. Took him down twice, easily, and beat the hell out of him. It was a great fight either way, a rematch would be awesome. Congrats to Chuck.

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DanNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 22:57:38 from 58.108.241.54    

a bit disappointed, wanted a war and got a boxing clinic
chuck looking good punch wise , witch is good to see but take downs for points sake is not why we fight…..
im use to seeing Wand leave it all in the ring/cage but he didn’t, why? u tell me. it was what it was
for see jardine v wand next fight, hope he gets the lead out.
very arverage event, left to gsp to give the fans a smile on there way out the door. and to the ufc better luck next event.

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raggamonNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 22:57:44 from 65.32.179.43    

Chuck whooped his ICE…….

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palefaceNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 23:48:24 from 74.196.188.8    

Good fight but truth be told chuck won the fight. All the hype about Wandy and whatching pride fighting clips i thought Wandy would win but Ice man kept him from getting in close, and most significant attacks by Liddel was the elbows he threw against the cage that really hurt Wandy. yes Liddeil was tired by mid third round and so became cautious and continued his ever so present counter punch game

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Henry DNo Gravatar Says, in 12-30-2007 at 23:51:59 from 68.91.94.39    

yeh i think this fight was fixed too. how can silvia lost to chuck there is no way in the world silvia loose to chuck. cause look at the fight silvia and rampage he beat the shiet out of rampage, and rampage knock the hell out of chuck. so there is no way that chuck win that fight. it a fix fight and that is mess up. i give it to silvia cuz i know silvia can knock him out.

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stoneponyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 00:25:54 from 71.236.204.35    

You give it to silva because you don’t really care who actually won. You should be watching WWF or something. If it was a fix it was because Wand took a dive, not because of biased judges. Chuck won fair and square, deal with it. Reality sucks sometimes.

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DonNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 00:48:05 from 71.205.37.8    

silva never has been hit that hard before thats why he looked like a different fighter both fighters were out of gas by the thrid and if any fight needed another round was rampage and dan that might have been diffeerenthoustan had one lucky fight no match for silva hopeing to see tito vs rampage I think it might be a upset to most of you but then again what do you know read your comments

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LeticiaNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 00:48:52 from 68.6.189.101    

What was up with the Axe Murderer? I think he was playing it so “safe” that nothing got done! Well, Im no pro but dang, The Ice-man Lidell, I’ve seen him fight much better. I think that if Silva was on his toes a bit more he would have beat Lidell hands down. Dont get me wrong, Lidell is great but this fight he was slow, winded, slipping a lot… I loved the spining punch thing but after 3 rounds with Silva I would have thought there would be more to the fight; I was a bit disappointed.

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palefaceNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 00:49:21 from 74.196.188.8    

henry d, styles make matches just because Wandy was able to beat Rampage (whose style i like) doesn’t mean he can beat chuck, and since when did they start fixing mma fights, oh yeah when your fav fighter loses

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David WehmeyerNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:11:05 from 189.148.12.61    

From what i saw, silva wanted to beat lidell in his most fearsome attribute: punches. Silve didnt try to take him down where he has an advantage and didnt try to get close when lidell fell, to use his muay-tai skills. Silva could have got alot of recognition if he had beaten Lidell with punches and thats what i think he was trying to do. Other than that the fight was Lidells, but it would have been better to see a longer fight, they both had a pretty clean face to anything close that resembled a knockout.

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CityNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:16:05 from 70.54.77.224    

Good fight. chuck had rounds 1&3 wandy had 2. It looked like wandy was stickin to his word when he said he didnt care if he won he just wanted to throw down with chuck… as he did. on the other hand chuck needed a win so he threw in some take downs to help his cause. that spinnin back fist was sick lol i thought it was a good fight though, chuck def wasnt runnin lol and as for a number one contenders match rashad should def be in the mix. maybe rashad vs chuck, wandy vs jardine.. just a thought winners fight then get either rampage or forest griffen who ever wins the fight after next season ultimate fighter

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smarmyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:45:09 from 68.199.172.240    

Chuck won, no question! All the respect to Wandy, but Chuck stood toe to toe with one of the best strikers in the world and dominated. Wandy certainly didn’t look like he wanted any of Chuck’s punches. I knew Chuck would win, and he looked like the intense Chuck we’ve seen in the past, much more focused. I still think he can beat Jackson if they fight a third time. Bring that loud mouth on!

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SleepyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:47:21 from 24.128.18.120    

UFC is dungheep,,,the big 2007 fights are all crap..The better fighters who has so much in their armada always loose…It seems like they always freeze and hold back and NEVER FIGHT LIKE THEY’RE KNOWN FOR, there’s a good show but the end of it always looks like a one sided cheesy match,,,,,even liddell was backing up…what the heck is wrong with the anouncing and Rogan and that dude??? should shut the heck up,,,talking about one sided jackasses…they’re like UFC commercials….I wonder if there’s a sindicate betting going on….

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omarNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:51:03 from 200.66.35.118    

PRIDE FOREVER!!!!!
i like to see this fight in brazil in a ring with pride rules with brazilian judges and brazilian croud

maybe liddell could die in a fight with this factors!!!

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smarmyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:53:56 from 68.199.172.240    

Oh, and another thing: For all you dumb asses who think this fight was supposedly “fixed”, in your own feeble minds because Wandy beat Jackson twice, who beat Chuck twice; look how Silva got destroyed by Vetor, who Chuck whooped, and Chuck also beat Tito, twice, who defeated Wandy. So, take your ridiculous conspiracy theories back to Hollywood, and just man up that Chuck whooped Wandy’s ass fair and square. You sore losers should read up on facts before you talk out your asses.

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boNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 01:58:15 from 67.191.96.209    

Even if it was fixed as some of you say Chuck beat him badly just watch the fight. Yall make it out like silva was so much better than chuck

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JeffNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 02:22:24 from 68.23.152.141    

I am getting a kick out of the fixed comments. Some of you act like they pulled a bum off of the street to fight Silvia. Last time I checked Liddell was a pretty good fighter.

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RaidenNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 02:54:10 from 121.218.67.204    

1 word
Fedor
Unbeatable. HW. Best of all time.
Where-ever he goes, we will watch…
End of story.

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BritishBullDogNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 03:37:44 from 195.137.62.51    

THe UFC really should put together a LHW Tournament next year.

The pool of talent is so rich now it would be a massive money spinner for them

In the Tournament:

Liddell
Silva
Rampage
Shogun
Machida
Henderson
Griffen
Ortiz??
Alexander
Soukjodou

Plus at least 2-4 others. It would be amazing.

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slashonerNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 04:09:56 from 207.200.116.135    

if it was at pride silva could have kicked chuck in the face when they were on the ground in the end of the 2nd round

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DRE MICHAELSNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 05:01:13 from 69.105.21.233    

This was some fixed ass scoring, they kept acting like Chuck Liddell was slipping but in reality he was getting hit in the mouth and getting dropped. The UFC definitely wasnt going to give the decision to Silva under any circumstances but a Unaminous Decious for Chuck thats B.S. It was a slip at best….all in all nothing is settled they need to fight 1 or 2 more times to really say who is the better fighter.

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AceNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 06:06:45 from 67.166.109.137    

Surreal. That isnt the Wandy from Pride in there. That isnt the man that crushed rampage…twice…

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smarmyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 11:07:17 from 68.199.172.240    

Chuck won this fight, no question! Sliva was getting popped in the mouth, and didn’t want any of it. Yea, he was dominant in Pride, no doubt, but to say that the competition in Pride is more intense is foolish! He dominated a good portion of Japanese fighters who come to the UFC (with the exception of Okami) and get beaten. That’s not taken anything away from Wandy, but it’s true. He got owned by Tito and utterly destroyed by Vitor, in the UFC. Not much else to say there. Yea, he’s much improved since then, but Chuck kicked his ass. He’s never fought someone like Chuck, and it showed!

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ANGERNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 11:47:22 from 24.10.127.236    

Dre Michaels…what fight were you watching? If this were Pride on about 3 occasions Silva would have fallen through the ropes after Chuck’s shots. When the fight was over Silva looked like he was allergic to Bee Stings or Peanuts. Liddell dominated the fight and controlled the pace. Silva is strong and was successful against guys like Rampage, but people have figured him out…don’t let him get inside. With a 3 inch height advantage there was no way Wandy was going to get close. And for those that wanted to see 5 rounds, Silva is lucky it only went 3. Liddell took down Silva twice very easily in the 3rd round, Wandy was gased and hurt.

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showmewhatyouvegotNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 13:48:45 from 72.95.154.147    

all of you are a bunch of dumb fucks, trying to analyse the situation, cheering for the butt buddy you wish would have won; take the fight for what it is worth. for this fight, liddell won, silva lost; fair and square. there is no way around it, quite crying, liddell simple came out the better man. if that is not what you wanted to happen, wait until they fight again, and if the result is different, state it.

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PureMMA FanNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 14:04:36 from 192.76.84.196    

3 Rounds, Lidell 2, Silva 1. It is what it is. Not a tournament, just a 3 round match. Like any sport it comes down to match ups and what happens that day. Look at St Pierre and Sera. Sera won (he’s not better) Silva is a beast, he lost.

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A RODNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 14:42:46 from 69.14.72.219    

Chuck will be the champion again. Silva knocked out Jackson in the pride fights. Chuck tore Silva up. I wanna see the rematch of Chuck and Jackson

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anglNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 15:23:42 from 66.238.86.130    

Dre anger…what fight were you watching? silva knok chuck ones in the second round an he did noting theres some thing wrong there

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johnnyNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 15:39:56 from 76.238.7.113    

u guys r ridiculous u still say pride is better than ufc wen almost every fights thats come over from pride has been dominated by ufc guys plus i dont even think the whole ufc vs pride means jack. its about how good the fighter is. and as far as silva goes liddell vs silva chuck beat him the whole time with the exception of a couple punches and some slips he outstruck him and even took him down. liddell won no doubt u silva fans just hate 2 admit it but it happened and makin excuses like it was fixed is just making u look even more of an ass and as far as fedor goes HE IS A BEAST PLAIN AND SIMPLE he would DOMINATE ANY UFC FIGHTER in my opinion

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bNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 17:04:47 from 72.69.139.95    

Chuck shouldn’t have won round 2 at all. He did get a few good shots and the cut on Wanderlei BUT wand was the aggressor the
entire second round, landed more shots AND had two knock downs…watch the round again. Liddell did come back in the last minute a bit but it surely didn’t match everything else silva did in that round. best fight of the year

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daveNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 17:10:32 from 74.12.35.157    

jackson will beat chuck now and silva.

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billy blanksNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 18:24:09 from 99.245.162.253    

its definatly wasn’t fixed, chuck won the 1st and 3rd round for sure, the 2nd could have went either way. silva has a strong ass chin. overall it was an enjoyable fight

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ANGERNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 20:42:43 from 24.10.127.236    

What scoring system counts a fighter slipping on his own as a knockdown by the opposing fighter? No matter how you score the fight Liddell dominated it.
And while everyone was arguing this fight, PRIDE’s biggest joke, Fedor, was beating a freak show in Japan.

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BillNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 20:53:33 from 70.49.239.33    

Well clearly biased people here. Chuck did win the fight hands down. Silva showed how tough he really is. Silva I believe didnt press the attack as much as he usually does because he felt Liddells power in the first round, he didnt want to be knocked out again. Liddell is a counter puncher always was so why the suprise when he backs up and waits?? Silva looked like he couldnt see very well at the end or seeing double…I like both fighters but someone had to lose.

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BillNo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 21:16:51 from 70.49.239.33    

Oh and Liddell wasn’t knocked down twice by punches…Silva backed up during the fight as well.

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KAKIHARANo Gravatar Says, in 12-31-2007 at 22:10:49 from 69.79.54.9    

Ok ok, lets make it simple, the fight was NOT FIXED and i´m a wandy fan, but the fact is that wandy (along with anothers pride fighters that get their asses kicked in UFC emmmmmm…….Cro Cop, Shogun) seems to be affected in the octagon and UFC rules, in the case of wandy the restricition of soccer kicks in the face while the opponent is on the floor, was an important fact in the result of the fight, the Griffin-Shogun fight was all Griffin, no doubt, and i wanted Griffin to win, Cro Cop didn’t expect the elbows from Gonzaga, but Wandy-Liddell emmmmmmm………. Chuck was on the floor and wandy didn’t nothing cause HE CANNOT KICK HIM IN THE FACE WITH SOCCER KICKS and get savage and brutal like he always do in PRIDE, that blinded himself psicologicaly and that is the reason off his lost.

If you pay atention to wandy reaction when chuck is on the floor, you realize that wandy wanted to kick Chuck´s face but of course he knows that he cant do that in UFC.

And for Liddell, ok he won fair inside his own rules cause he is an UFC fighter and thats all, but in PRIDE i think the match would take a different direction.

Anyway good fight for Liddell…..

pd: Please excuse my english but all of you got the idea

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PrideNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 03:59:19 from 76.88.95.10    

Vanderlei Silva is NOT the fighter he used to be. He killed Rampage in his prime and Rampage in turn destroyed Chuck twice, once in Pride and once in UFC.

Sad to see a great fighter no longer in his prime. Don’t know what it is, but all the Pride fighters came out of Pride not fighting so well in the UFC.

Even playing field now.

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TommyNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 12:22:38 from 88.81.144.7    

Well done Chuck. I guess they wont rematch them straight away, if ever.
Chuck should have to take at least 3 more fights before he gets a title shot. He must also be behind Jardine in the que. Silva will undoubtebly get more UFC fights, good job too.
Good fight, could have been much worse. Chuck gassing at the end is alarming if he wants to fight around Championship level…

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fixfightNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 13:02:14 from 69.66.231.1    

work. work. work.plan and simple the fight was a work. the ufc needs chuck to be its savior since monte cox started m1 global.any fighter would tank a fight for the right$.

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BillNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 16:52:58 from 70.49.239.33    

People who think the fight was a fix then their man Silva is a sell out and doesnt deserve any credit for anything he has ever done. Silva is 31 past his prime??, Liddell is 38 ever think of that?? Oh right Cage Rage is better than Pride because anderson Silva fought there and beat up most of his opponents….facts speak for themselves….??

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Newt14No Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 17:36:10 from 142.167.109.132    

there is alot of post on here..i dont know if someone already said this buy, chuck fought for the win and silva fought to give the fans a show..was a awesome fight . i loved how silva backed up and had that grin when chuck came comin at him silva got some good shots there!

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MattforrealNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 18:43:19 from 70.55.104.152    

This fight was a big waste of time. First, there was just three rounds, not enough to see a great fight. If there was 5 rounds Silva would have knocked out Liddell. Liddell wasn’t in a good shape for this game, especially at the end of the fight, he was too tired to do something. And Silva, WHAT A JOKE ! In the game chuck went down several times and silva didn’t even rush him to finish the fight. This is unbelievable for a killer like silva. Seriously, when i looked at the comments i don’t think that we saw the same fight.
This game was fixed from the beginning to the end. We can thank Dana (the bookmaker) White for that.

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mikeNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 19:05:53 from 66.67.5.140    

SO DISSAPPOINTED

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dirty 7-30No Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 19:29:00 from 99.227.13.44    

Can you believe Liddell got $500,000 for this fight?!!! Now I can you see now why he was running away in stead of risking getting knocked out… $500,000 was not deserved… I think if he knocked out Silva he should have gotten it, not just for winning. What a Rip, GSP only got $160,000, and the real bargain was Lyoto Machoda $60,000.

That’s why Liddell wanted the win more than a knock out, I’m starting to wonder if he offered some to Wandi to throw the fight.

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dirty 7-30No Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 19:53:00 from 99.227.13.44    

Liddell 50% to show and 50% to win…. now tell me what liddell was working for?…why he did those shoots, and why he was running away…. I know many of you Liddell jock riders will excuse his style…. I’m not saying he didn’t win, what I’m saying he didn’t go there to show he was a better fighter than Silva… he went there just to get paid… ripping off the fans from a potential great fight.

Silva was the only fighter that wouldn’t double his earn with a win…. Fix?.. you tell me. Please all you guys saying that it wasn’t fix tell me… prove me wrong now that the purses have been disclosed. Why would Silva’s earn be doubled with a win like every fighter? and why was Liddell’s ear so high, and doubled with a win?…. FIXED!!!! FActs are out UFC is shit… every one was talking about the YAKUZA running PRIDE…. who is running the UFC?????

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dirty 7-30No Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 19:54:56 from 99.227.13.44    

CORRECTION: Why wouldn’t Silva’s earn be doubled with a win like every fighter? and why was Liddell’s ear so high, and doubled with a win

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dirty 7-30No Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 19:58:38 from 99.227.13.44    

Sorry liddells was a guaranteed sum… which doesn’t change anything. plus he got $50,000 for fight ot the night….I thought GSP was the foght of the night… but the UFC is willing to do anything to stroke Liddell’s balls

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WARNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 20:21:11 from 66.41.114.43    

Rampage would kill silva and chuck in a third fight so it does not even matter, and silva looked alot differnt because his all washed up

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CKEINBNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 21:37:57 from 68.42.161.7    

dirty 7-30… truthfully, nothing u said made any sense but if it’s something bashing Dana White… I will most likely agree with you. It is so ridiculous that Liddell made $500,000. He’s not champ or number 1 contender right now… what gives. And the second most guaranteed pay out was wanderlei with $150,000… not former champs hughes or GSP. The best fighters should get the best purses. This bullshit happens in boxing and the NBA… and I guess the UFC. Hopefully when M1 gets bigger their politics won’t be so fucked up

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WillNo Gravatar Says, in 1-1-2008 at 21:54:53 from 70.174.143.170    

I agree that the American referees were a little biased but i find it a little too harsh to show this much bad hostility to Chuck. Chuck is an awesome fighter and has beaten many others that would easily break Silva in they’re prime, most notably Vitor Belfort who i believe would destroy Silva easily in his prime. Anyways I for one saw that Chuck won this one all the way even though he fell a couple times and the second round was very close. The only thing left to do is put these guys in a 5 round match where they can truly find out who’s better, but even then one 5 round match could still be insufficient time to decide which fighter is the better of our time.

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BillNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 00:10:54 from 70.49.239.33    

So fans of Silva you think he would take money to throw a fight…wow that is very disrespectful to a man that you think is so good. They were both tired Liddell did not go down twice due to punches Silva didnt attack because liddell wasnt hurt and Silva obviously wanted a standup fight which he was losing judging by the fact that he was rocked many times…

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HustonNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 00:53:53 from 71.239.14.6    

alrite…well 3 rounds just wasnt enough..it was a badass fight both fighters throwing and exchanging..liddell looks like he was actually into fighting unlike when he took on jardine…idk about everyone else but i would love to see liddell vs silva 2, but this time have dana make it a little more interesting and make it a 5 rounder any one agreee ???…….. chuck liddell is a badass striker along with wanderlei silva but i think that if they fouhgt a second time wanderlei silva would come out on top he stood toe 2 toe well with liddell and would have won a decision if he didnt get the knockout by using his clinch game he has a great muay thai clinch and knees if he would have used this more he would have one verry decisivly…. so hopefully there is a second matchup……but i really think that rampage is going to be the champ for a long time at 205 unless someone shows something….. and was anyone else dissapointe with the african assassins debut..

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ThankNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 02:58:34 from 24.205.204.109    

“Jeff 30December2007 I am not a Liddell fan, but I am not sure what you guys were watching that did not think that Liddell won this fight. Liddell won it easy. Silvia looks like to me he has some work to do.

I felt the fight was kind of boring. Maybe I just like getting pounded in the ass better.”

WTF?

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ibnasinaNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 03:19:43 from 65.98.158.103    

I believe the fight was fishy or Silva was nervous because of the UFC crowd.

Silva has to fight a fight cage fights before we can determine whether or not the fight with Chunki was staged.

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2uidiotsNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 06:45:07 from 70.95.79.25    

A lot of you people on here are extremely stupid to be on here talking about something you dont understand. Kudos to all who are speaking rationally. It is well known that Liddell throws people outta their gameplan because he rocks them early and gets them second guessing. The most stupid thing on here I have seen is people thinkin it was a set-up (congrats to u idiots that said that)… as far a longer fight goes….. Liddell knew it was only three rounds and it seemed he didnt want to leave anything left out there…it doesnt matter cuz Wanderlei was just tryin to survive anyway.
The long forseen fight has been settled congrats to the best light heavyweight to ever step in the ring Chuck Liddell

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czech republicNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 09:04:38 from 88.103.180.237    

wanderlei is the best!!! chuck is pubfighter!!

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chuck liddellNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 09:17:02 from 72.10.125.130    

ok lets just say at the end silvas face was messed up and gushing blood and liddell still looked fine

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KAKIHARANo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 11:48:08 from 69.79.54.93    

To the guys who says that the fight was “fixed”, please stop saying that cause that’s wrong.

The Fight was a disappointment, ok, but that doesn’t mean it was “fixed”…..both fighters didn´t nothing spectacular to win, see Rampage-Henderson for example…. that was a real fight, both fighters wanted the victory.

I only have to say that i want a rematch, but in the fu….. ring with PRIDE rules to see who really is the best fighter, and obviously Silva in the ring is a killer, HE CAN KICK THE OPPONENT FACE IN THE FLOOR!!!

Well, nothing more to say

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MDizNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 12:07:24 from 69.216.133.214    

all you guys saying Silva didnt ATTACK like he used to… he tried, Chuck had great defense and counter defense for all of his attacks. Plus he tired him out greatly! this was a great fight regardless.

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Antonio R. Mabini Jr.No Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 13:29:16 from 124.106.136.139    

people have different sights in life but for me silva and liddell are the greatest fighter of all….best fight of the century…goodluck for both fighters chuck and wanderlei!!!

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JamesNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 16:00:41 from 68.14.101.246    

Chuck dominated this fight. He beat him standing, in the clinch, and even on the ground when they briefly went to the mat. Silva could have won the second round until he nearly got KTFO’d in the last minute of the round. In fact, Chuck nearly had Silva KO’d in both the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Silva’s boxing was wild, undisciplined, and inaccurate. He caught Chuck once or twice with the wild windmill flurries, but he never hurt him, and looked completely lost.

Some have speculated that the rampant steroid use in Pride vs. UFC accounts for some of the poor showings by former Pride fighters. . . after watching Silva get dominated this badly, I have to wonder myself.

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Chuck WinsNo Gravatar Says, in 1-2-2008 at 16:26:03 from 71.130.165.22    

Kudos to 2UIdiots, Chuck won that fight fair and square. He worked Wanderlei the first round, which reflected the rest of the fight(HANDS DOWN). To all you idiots that said it was fixed…BULLSHIT! You get in the ring with Liddell and see what happens. I like both fighters, but styles WIN fights…and the better man that night was Liddell.

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Chuck WinsNo Gravatar Says,