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straightAhead Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:15:18 from 41.234.48.240    

Is it arrogance that none of the Brazilians will learn enough wrestling to even pose a threat to an American wrestler? I mean we have American wrestlers getting brown and black belts in BJJ all day but it seems the Brazilians overwhelmingly refuse to learn anything more than basic wrestling.

Junior’s game plan was too simplistic: box, box, and box some more…. He obviously has athletic abilities so why does he insist on only using them for boxing. Just quit MMA and go to boxing full time. Just plain ridiculous.

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drewblood Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:30:40 from 47.16.138.62    

ooof, i love a good beatdown but that was hard to watch at the end.. hey Junior… Cain has your number… please do not fight him ever again… ever.

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myself Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:32:55 from 107.196.216.193    

its call MMA

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Kill em All Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:34:52 from 201.171.105.176    

Cain style in this fight reminded me a lot of Randy Couture

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poopiestick Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:38:39 from 69.127.204.28    

Cigano has so much heart. What a monster.

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Doyle Brunson Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:39:24 from 99.234.40.86    

After all of that massive beating he took it ends on an accidental/lazy faceplant. Unfortunate way to end such a valiant effort. Unreal though.

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fyasko51 Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:45:33 from 75.85.83.20    

Always coming clutch Bruno!!!! Thanks for the upload…

Sincerely

A Loyal Viewer.

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wcoastassassin Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:47:40 from 98.247.202.56    

Dominate win for Cain but that should not have been stopped.

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Noel Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:54:41 from 71.20.70.242    

Not bad for someone who hits like a girl.

@straightAhead: not speaking about all Brazilians but JDS in particular just boxes. That last ditch attempt to choke Cain is the first time I can ever remember seeing him do anything but box.

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Joe Dog Says, in 10-20-2013 at 01:55:34 from 66.228.23.4    

Cain Velasquez, like a dog with a bone.

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Rugburn Says, in 10-20-2013 at 02:03:33 from 98.206.236.170    

StraightAhead you called it right brother!! C’mon Brazilian’s achilles heel has been great Wrestlers. But the problem is that JDS was going against the top wrestler in the world. So even if he did wrestle all his life Cain will still have his way like he does with all the world class wrestlers. Now add to that that he is a smart MMA fighter with superior Kickboxing, KO power, unbelieveable cardio and stamina!! Thats why he is the champ and probably will be for a long time!!!
!!CAIN-USA-MEXICO-CAIN!!

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just a fan Says, in 10-20-2013 at 02:07:04 from 68.8.239.129    

I really love both of this guys! they are the example of what warriors are supposed to be! no loss to Junior< he is still a bad men!!!! Cain, well he is in another category all together………….. but correct me if I'm wrong!

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wEz Says, in 10-20-2013 at 02:12:28 from 97.116.73.9    

Strange and amazing how Cain can keep such a pace for 5 rounds…doesnt lactic acid eventually set in?

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Jacob Says, in 10-20-2013 at 02:18:30 from 100.1.103.53    

If Dos Santos didnt train on his wrestling extensively, Cain would have thrashed him early. The pounding Cain gave him was due to Cain bieng the better fighter. Not even an experienced olympic wrestler like Coirmier can out wrestle Cain. It looked one sided because Cain didnt let Junior try anything and was bombarding him with all kinds of shots. Junior has great will, power, wrestling defense, and endurance, but Fighter like Cain are in another level. MMA is dawning an era of great latino fighters. Anthony Pettis, Cain Valasquez, are 2 great examples of the future. Fighters like GSP who hold their opponents down and find ways to fool the judges have no place in mma. Y los Boricuas y Mexicanos somos guerreros!

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madog1 Says, in 10-20-2013 at 02:25:54 from 120.21.32.65    

Put that man in the hall of fame.
Plus damian maia uses bjj plus wrestling.

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romuro Says, in 10-20-2013 at 02:44:26 from 69.171.166.18    

They just arent training with Top Olympic Wrestlers, like Cain & company are….
The United States wrestling investment in College’s are paying off not only in the Olympic’s but in the UFC. There’s a reason the USA dominates in the Olympics (We are so culturally diverse & we like to mix things up)

Im a proud Mexican American Chicano like Cain, & i find it offensive Cain doesnt represent his family’s new country, the country our ancestor’s sacrificed so much for. At least do what Tito Ortiz does and raise both our flag’s…

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OscarMayhem Says, in 10-20-2013 at 03:22:41 from 108.73.3.7    

I don’t agree. Jr ‘s take down defense was very good. Wrestling was not his only undoing. To diminish Jr, disrespects how smart and well Cain fought. The fact is that the better overall fighter won tonight.

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MMA Brazil Says, in 10-20-2013 at 04:12:18 from 77.99.171.224    

You are partially right. I dont think it is arrogance but maybe Junior needs to change training camps. He was from the word go in a wrestling match. Cain wanted nothing but to push Junior against the cage and take him down, wear him down. Junior was in wrestling match and his corner was giving him instructions as if he was in a boxing match. He should be trying to get underhooks, revert the position, even attempt his own takedown on Cain, but his corner gave him nothing. His head trainer only knows boxing and it is time Junior expanded his horizons he is still young and is a fantastic athlete, he deserves better training/coaching.

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bobbo Says, in 10-20-2013 at 04:19:11 from 184.12.167.70    

Hits like a sissy huh?

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t_donald Says, in 10-20-2013 at 04:24:56 from 216.240.14.30    

Well American fighters tend to get destroyed in straight forward BJJ competition; so, yes, it is silly to excpect someone from a country with a very limited athletic infrastructure in place for wrestling to generally out perform someone who has had an amount of high level wrestling competition available to them since highschool and throughout college.

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Tbthan Says, in 10-20-2013 at 04:40:04 from 74.99.141.14    

You dumb s***, stop talking you make everyone on this website look bad. Wrestling? Learn how to fight before you open you mouth

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anakonda Says, in 10-20-2013 at 05:04:06 from 91.153.157.198    

I think there will be better challengers than Santos. He can’t even box with Cain and boxing is supposed to be his strength.

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ivo3carter Says, in 10-20-2013 at 05:06:16 from 152.131.10.132    

straightahead-

Jose Aldo vs Chad Mendes
Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen
Renen Barao vs Uriah Faber
Lyoto Machida vs Ryan Bader
Shogun Rua vs Dan Henderson

Should I keep going? The only thing arrogant was your dumb ass opening statement.

Signed, an American

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Ac5 Says, in 10-20-2013 at 06:12:51 from 179.211.160.72    

I got to agree with you on the part that against Cain JDS seems very one dimensional, but tell me again who would out wrestle Velasquez. Please, JDS cleaned out the division but he just can’t get past CV because he’s too damn good. Is as simple as that. It’s very easy for me to say that styles make fights but it apllies very well in this case. And about Cain’s BJJ black belts and JDS “lack” of wrestling, are you kidding me? Cain’s a beast on wrestling and is a BJJ black belt right? So why couldn’t he keep Junior down for a minute? It wasn’t just about wrestling, Cain’s just got more skills alltogether than JDS.

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adelrafael Says, in 10-20-2013 at 07:08:14 from 98.211.214.89    

you are right

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juampi85 Says, in 10-20-2013 at 08:01:40 from 201.252.26.14    

straightAhead: My friend, I agree entirely with you….In mma you can not be one-dimensional. Besides that, Cain’s cardio is impressive, all the fight he did it with the same intensity.

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respect2bothguys Says, in 10-20-2013 at 08:46:51 from 108.132.196.134    

Mexico > Brazil

and now that Mexico has banned GMO corn, you’ll never defeat that Inca/Aztec/Olmec spirit.

Of course i’m joking, both guys are studs, i almost wished they had stopped it in the 3rd…not sure if Werdum can do anything different against Cain, but we shall see….hope JDS is ok.

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StraightAhead Says, in 10-20-2013 at 10:19:54 from 41.234.48.240    

@ivo3carter: all those people you listed use their wrestling defensively ONLY.
But th american wrestlers who learn bjj eventually start using it offensively as a compliment to their wrestling. So yes, you can go on but you will only continue to make less sense

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rob Says, in 10-20-2013 at 10:28:50 from 72.253.203.217    

@wcoastassassin, dude, that fight could have been stopped several times. Junior’s energy was gone and Cain got on him. Oh well

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straightAhead Says, in 10-20-2013 at 10:53:08 from 41.234.55.112    

@ivo3Carter:

And to further my point: when was the last time that you have seen any of those listed Brazilian go for a double leg or single leg take down?? When have you seen any of them pull ANY offensive wrestling move?!? ALL of their wrestling is DEFENSIVE!! Whereas we see even Chael Sonnen pulling of HATs vs Brain Stann or Jon Jones pulling off a standing guillotine vs Machida (a bjj black belt)!! Hell even Dan Henderson was going for subs vs Shogun as well as Fedor (not a Brizilan but my point is clear).

You sir, are the dumb ass. Congratulations.

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kill Says, in 10-20-2013 at 10:56:41 from 98.202.90.14    

america is greater. if cain grew up in mexico he’d probably be begging for money of giving tours to americans for a living.

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mangymongoose Says, in 10-20-2013 at 11:04:19 from 24.255.176.34    

Definitely reminds me of Randy’s style. Even more effective because Cain is good at striking and mixing that in. Still don’t like that he only reps Mexico, why not both? If you love Mexico so much, go back. If you love the country that gave you so much opportunity, then rep it. Just ungrateful and annoying. Good one sided fight though.

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Joe Dog Says, in 10-20-2013 at 11:14:53 from 66.228.23.4    

Another impressive domination of the #2 heavyweight. That was an example of how skilled, fit and determined Velasquez was to absolutely brutalize Dos Santos rather than just win.
After watching that, I ask you all, who could challenge Velasquez? …Werdum? (Chuckle)I don’t think so. Travis Browne? (LOL) Not. Josh Barnett? Doubtful. Miočić? Maybe, in time. Velasquez is like a super human beast. Who is next?

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CaptainObvious Says, in 10-20-2013 at 12:49:58 from 174.230.0.164    

Um… Um did Dos Dantos get a dieded?

I dunno anything about MMA. Do these fighters get died after the fights?
I heard Dos Santos gotted a dieded after fight.

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blindsteel Says, in 10-20-2013 at 13:23:37 from 107.210.214.239    

man velasquez has a fusion reactor for a gas tank…wonder what his diet is like when training

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smokinjoe Says, in 10-20-2013 at 13:28:55 from 90.15.229.41    

These guys are both great warriors.Velasquez is just superior; better in the stand up and on the ground.He broke the distance perfectly .
JDS is great but he should have been stopeed in the 3rd and in the 4th.The referee , trainers and doctor are unconscious;there was no solution for JDS he was just beaten up.
He should change his trainers; they have no respect for their fighter.
I am no MMA fighter but I have been a boxer for 20 years.
JDS couldn’t forget what velasquez did to him in the 2nd fight.JDS quicky realised it in the 1st ans his trainers should have understood it and stop the fight in the 3rd.
JDS took too much beating;it was not necesary and those who say he shouldn’t have been stopped are stupid and never entered a ring.
Props to both but JDS will never be the same after this 2nd fight.He was already not the same after the 2nd fight but now it is worse.
He should retire, he no longer has something to prove

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Dharmaboy Says, in 10-20-2013 at 15:00:09 from 68.149.25.217    

Damn man, that shoulda stopped in the 3rd. Stupid JDS corner should have just saved their fighter from a royal beatdown but their foolish pride just had their boy get the s*** kicked out of him.

Cain is just one bad ass mofo. I highly doubt Werdum could take that barrage but I have no idea how Werdum even got to this point.

With that kinda cardio and condition, how do you stop an elite level wrestler that has that much punching power? I think Cain can rule the roost for a long time to come

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Kakihara Says, in 10-20-2013 at 16:10:40 from 190.156.31.120    

Retire??? the man is 29 yrs old with only 3 loses in his record and two of them are against Cain Velasquez for GOD´S SAKE…. Junior can still keep going… he just CANT BEAT CV but that doesn´t mean he should retire…

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Mcfly Says, in 10-20-2013 at 16:11:01 from 76.94.186.54    

@ Straightahead

It does not matter whether they have offensive or defensive wrestle but if they won the fights. If they did it defensively, oh well, they won anyways.
That’s what they train for, not to be a better wrestler…

Don’t be a last word freak dumb ass! ! !

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Mcfly Says, in 10-20-2013 at 16:15:04 from 76.94.186.54    

@ StraightDickHead

In addition, I totally agree with Ivo3carter, the only thing arrogant was your stupid opening statement A55HOLE!

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CaptainObvious Says, in 10-20-2013 at 19:06:13 from 174.237.228.89    

Smokinjoe needs to retire from the internet after what he just said. Loser.

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Originalfan Says, in 10-20-2013 at 20:20:13 from 76.66.199.13    

Ok
Now that jds and everyone else knows Cain is the better man
Here’s a tip for jds the next time they meet and I’m sure they will
Junior stick and jab don’t use up all your power punches in the
early rounds. Most importantly use the entire octagon run a
frick’ marathon if u have to and maybe chill out the roids cuz
your muscles are weighing you down slim down (think Ali vs
Forman)
then pray your big shot hits the sweet
spot on Cains chin. Better luck next time buddy

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justafan Says, in 10-20-2013 at 22:29:16 from 68.8.239.129    

CaptainOvious, u you are not!!!! Smokingjoe is right< no need for that punishment to take place!! I love both fighters, different opponents??????? matchups make fights, but Cain has Dos Santos number my friend! I can tell you are not a fighter, but I could be wrong……………cheers!

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justa fan Says, in 10-20-2013 at 23:38:38 from 68.8.239.129    

JoeR!!! Really,who were you broadcasting for??????? I KNOW YOU ARE A bjj practitioner, dnt really care……. as fighter ur not!!!! You could sooooo easily see who you were supposed to root for, you dumb ass!!!!! but, you obviously get a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$ for that. Cheers!! I do love ur other show!!!! Yes, that one!!! hahahaha

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Ozinator Says, in 10-21-2013 at 00:29:26 from 24.150.11.142    

I can’t believe that not one of you before me noticed that Cain almost lost this fight by ko in the first round -early before the first clinch. And it’s not just Junior he lost to that way once and almost twice…Kongo too. I have no dog in the fight but am embarrassed reading all of this.

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JoeS Says, in 10-21-2013 at 03:44:13 from 205.250.227.91    

JDS trained with an Olympic wrestler in the lead up to the fight. Thing is, Cain trains with an Olympic wrestler three times a week and has a lifetime of wrestling experience to go with it. JDS uses what he’s most comfortable with and what has been the most successful for him his entire career and to call him arrogant for not learning how to wrestle is – ignorant.

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Ben der done it Says, in 10-21-2013 at 05:46:51 from 68.57.36.46    

Put cain in a straight glory kickboxing event and lets see how far he can go in a real fight. This laying/leaning on someone s*** is p**** fighting.

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smokinjoe Says, in 10-21-2013 at 06:35:20 from 90.15.229.41    

@ captainobvious
If you had fought just one time in your life, you would understand.He will never be the same, never.
You seem to be szo tough!You have absolutely no idea of the physical and mental pain JDS went through.It is the 2nd time it happens , he is 29 .Stop the massacre JDS and I hope keyboard warriors like you will have a little reflection.

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Origional fan Says, in 10-21-2013 at 07:46:06 from 76.66.199.13    

Ozinator
I hear what u r saying the camera angle of the punch that landed on Cain
was horrible. I saw the cameras zoom and focus in on the fighters at the very start of the fight and the punch was already landed. Either way we won’t know how much it affected Cain if at all. It could have just thrown him off balance. Did Cain even acknowledge being rocked at the start of a fight in any of his interviews……anyone??

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Skeptical Says, in 10-21-2013 at 08:09:47 from 83.42.158.23    

JDS: Hey Cain, you hit so much like a gurl that I have to knock myself out!

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Joe Dog Says, in 10-21-2013 at 12:33:12 from 68.186.104.36    

So, I ask again, who is next for Velasquez?

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rob Says, in 10-21-2013 at 16:29:39 from 172.56.16.42    

I’m sure Junior was just trying to hype up the fight with “he hits like a girl” but he genuinely showed class by declaring Cain the undisputed victor. Great card. On to 167

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Rugburn Says, in 10-21-2013 at 21:50:16 from 98.206.236.170    

Lucky for JDS that Cain didn’t throw more liver and body shots in his combinations. Otherwise he would’ve been kissing the floor earlier. Every great boxer knows this trick. I don’t want to see a fourth fight bc Cain already proved that he’s a better striker with wrestling aside. JDS really needs to work more Greco Roman, Judo, and Muay Thai!! Only then will he be able to give Cain a real run for his belt!!

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bunbury26 Says, in 10-22-2013 at 21:17:00 from 172.251.99.218    

I was rooting for Cain but you have to admit that JDS is all class after defeat.

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