
This is the MMA fight video of Brock Lesnar versus Frank Mir At UFC 81.
too much hype not enough fight
Man mir looked shitty, but his submission skills came through for him.
fucking pwned
The guy with the penis on his chest got fucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you didnt see this coming youre not a real fan!
More proof that size means nothing when it comes to experience.
Steve Mazaggati should not be a referree for UFC events anymore.. i’ve seen many fights where he does stupid point take aways like that… Lesnar did not intentionally hit Mir in the back of the head…. he TURNED away.. ive seen way worse than that and no point deduction.. I give that fight to Lesnar anyways.. I like Mir but if these two were to meet again I bet it would be different
damm!! frank was gettin his ass handed to him.what a fucking
way to win a fight. almost identical to his win over tank.
brock should have kept it on his feet.
what little girl “frank mir” what to scared to try to stand up gotta fight from your back
wow brock is so strong but skill over strength wins it : )
damn i picked lesnar to to KO in the first and looked like he had it. Then i saw him grab the legs when mir was on the ground and was like oh thats the wrong move but oh well. Everyone knew there was a good shot that he’d get subbed but all in all it wasn’t that horrible.
If he can learn a little more ground game and avoid the silly subs he could be something. This was too quick to judge but everyone knew he was gonna come out and do damage and he did just that.
well thats what he’s good at, fighting from his back.
how tall is mir? he doesn’t look 255. unless he is like 6′5
lol, brock tapped mir so hard i think that steve thought he was hitting him and not tapping.
HAHAHAAaa.. bitter WWE fans.. your boy sucks, and swallows… now go home and share the news with you mom!!!
This is not a “what if” sport either it’s done or it’s not!
If he had stayed on his feet!
If the ref hadn’t stop it…
If .. if.. if…
if only your mom had swallowed!!!
WWE would be bankedrupt
jason i don’t no what fight yuo say. mir wasn’t scard to fight on his feet, lezner knocked him down. with a punch and took him down within the frist 5sec with a double.
this is how i say the fight going personal Brock is a good fighter strong looked great but was realy undertrained in the ground game. give him 5 - 6months more of trainning and this guy will be back strong and hungry.
How about Brock VS Cro-cop?
brock should have let frank up. every one knew that this was way mir was going to win. next time brock, take a breath and think if tangeling with a BJJ master from standing postion is a good idea? well he was dominating and had good ground postioning but he got a bit ahead of himself. shit happens………..any guesses who lesnar or mir will fight next?
What do you expect, it’s mma. what a little girl? imagine getting pounded by a 300 pounder and still managed to win the fight. besides the fact that he’s not 100% physically. people who’s giving him shit about that he wouldn’t stand up, it’s mma , you have to be well rounded. standing up, going toe to toe with someone will not make you a better fighter, you gotta to mix it up a bit.for the people who think that stand up is the only manly way to do it, you got the wrong sport, get out, you don’t belong here.
at first mir looked in trouble but it was because of the slip trying to throw a kick. Mir has better stand up but brock would have just had more power in his punches and a better chance to knock mir out with one punch. true fight viewers knew this should have been the result and mir came through with beautiful technique and body positioning. Great result for mir, bring on the next challenger, he is back!
If that’s fighting like a girl then I guess lesnar got his ass kicked by a girl n so will u if u think u don’t need to know how to fight from ur back
jason ur dumb its lesnar who got him down in the first place because he was afraid to stand up since he is a wrestler. idiot…
Mir is very lucky. What is he proud of? Getting his ass kicked before being saved by the ref and then tapping out a guy who is probably a white belt in JJ?
Besides the fact of the fight being stopped before a TKO, mir better keep working on his cardio because I doubt he’d even make it past that 1st rnd if it kept going.
Lesnar showed more in this fight can mir did. I am excited to see what lesnar will bring to the HW division. As for mir? Who cares. He’ll get knocked out or tapped out by big nog if he ever gets a shot.
steve mazagaty sucks
^^I duno, lesnar looked like the lil girl, tap,tap,tap,tap !!!
Steve should not have stood them up. It was too heated to stop like that. Mir was lucky and Brock needs to watch where his feet are. Tipical wrestler style, but what a phenom Lesnar will be.
Frank Mir has skill. Lesnar is an oversized ape and was trying to win w/ brute force no skill no game. He’s just newer version of Tank Abbott
Well done Frank. Great fight, stuck to his game plan and it worked perfectly. Would love to see Frank back at his best
another ground and pounder bites the dust but Steve Mazagatti still has the best stache’ in MMA
why would lesnar be good at MMA hes a amature with a wresterling back ground put him on the ulitmate fight, what did you people expect serouisly hes fighting a ex world champion for his first ufc fight, second mma fight ever hes 1-1 good luck to him in the future, congrats to frank mir hope he gets back in the mix
Brock’s inexperience showed in that fight. Someone should of taught him to roll with a leg lock/knee bar.
are you guys kidding me. mir got he win…with a submission…there’s no more decisive way to win…retards
That’s why it’s called Mixed Martial Arts. Sure he was getting beat in the stand up and with the ground and pound but he could have broke Lesnar’s ankle if he wanted to.
Hey Jason, Lesnar got beat by a dude lying on his back… who’s a little girl? This is MMA my friend not rock em sock em robot. There are many dimensions to this sport, Lesnar is one dimensional he was hell bent on pounding on Mir he didn’t even see the trap he setting for him in the end.
I vote that Steve Mazaggati be forced to retire. What the fuck, dude? Easily the worst ref in MMA.
first of all would like to say i was extreamly excited bout this fight….wat a let down. Did someone forget to tell brock that in the ufc there is 3 five min rounds not 30 sec to knock him out. leasner was controlling the fight stand up and he had him in side controll but insisted on that hammer fist bullshit. i dont care how many black belts mir has got in brazilian juitse, if u get an unfit cunt like mir(who look ordanary) in side controll you use your weight to hold that position then mount the prick. but all brock wanted to do is chuck is hands and legs every and get caught in a stupid basic summsion… start chucking hammer fist like crazy late in the second and third rounds when mir would have been fatigued and less likely to capulize on the gifts brock was handing him
look when u think about it: this wasn’t a fair fight for Brock Lesnar!!! I mean the guy’s had 1 fight in MMA! & they put him up against a former Heavyweight Champion??? you tell me how that’s fair. doesn’t matter how big lesnar is, the point is that he has virtually zero experience & mir’s a beast in the octagon… brock got a raw deal man…
brock needs to fight kimbo slice
Thank God. Thank you Frank Mir. Congratulations.
Hey poop, just want to let you know that if you’re a white belt in JJ then you have no business fighting in the MMA. Also, how would you like it if a 300 pound ape was hammer fisting you in the back of the head. It was a clear foul. The ref took points because it would only take one clean shot to the back of the head in this weight class to debilitate someone. Oh and lastly, Lesnar looked very rigid and stiff and over muscled. You need to be fluid and flexible in this sport and as to who showed more fight? Mir after taking some shots made Lesnar tap out, give up, and surrender. Please i welcome your response.
Wow, great fight. Glad Mir won 2 b honest cuz i think it’d make mma look really bad if lesnar just came in crushing all these fighters starting with a former champ. Better off this way for Lesnar to start with a loss and work up from there(for the ufc that is). If he did just clean house think of all the hacks that would try and emulate him… xpac? mike tyson? ron artest? I think Lesnar will b great but fuck all those other wannabes. Obviously a fantastic wrestler and athlete already… really pumped to see how good Brock can get.
Holly crap rich, Lesnar needs work on his JJ and you need work on your spelling.
brock was looking good , he was relentless but the guy was too much excited and made that fucking mistake , now i want to see brock lesnar vs bob sapp…..
this is what you get from UFC. they made alot of money from Lesnar. But lesnars first debut fight in UFC and vs x HW champion is completely unfair. UFC doenst have ranks, instead you got this retarded kid picking the fights that are unbalanced. Dana wants to make money not good fights. Lesnar should have fought like 3-5 more fights before fightings someone on Mirs level. Pride fighters dominating the UFC btw. UFC really bad line up of fighters compare to Pride.
“brock needs to fight kimbo slice”
agreed!
two over-hyped fighers going at it
Mir sucks he is lucky he got his stupid spinning toe hold
Maybe Lesnar should consider stepping down to the minors to gain the much needed experience he lacks while trying to learn the dynamics of mma. He came out strong in this fight, and he is powerful, but he only had a punchers chance in this bout. Frank Mir has been one of the most well rounded fighters in the world of mma since way before his motorcycle accident, back when he was thought to be unbeatable by most. It was great to see him pick up a win by submission as he works to regain his “unbeatable” status.
well it was an ok fight. I dont get why everyone is calling lesnar a pussy. He is a 4 time all american. He has only had 1 mma fight. and ufc is different then mma. In mma you can give shots to the back of the head repeatedly. ufc you cant cause your in the caged octagon as opposed to a ring. i see it lesnar is a good fighter and needs to develope a different fighting style then he will be better. Frank mir is a former champ kind of an unfair fight between the 2. Mir had more experience then lesnar but all-in-all it was a good fight.
Wow… Well, our WWE fans are still cryin’. Would have, could have, should have… If, If, If…BUT DIDN’T. Now Brock can go back to tryin’ our for pro football or selling Avon or something… Mir is a huge man who uses small-man jiu-jitsu. Better yet, he is a great guy that didn’t run his mouth and just got the job DONE and finished the fight!
i thought lesnar would have more raw striking power from the top with all that weight and power… needs a little more time and development, and a lot of bjj..
For those of you that think Mir was getting handled, you don’t know what you are talking about. The fight went exactly as he planned. He knew Lesnar was going to take him down, and he knew that Lesnar would overpower him. He said it himself. So his gameplan was to fight from his guard take a few punches and wait for Lesnar to make a mistake, and he did.
This fights proves why the UFC today allows lesser fighters to win. If this was the old days (with no rules and no gloves) then Frank would have been out within the first 30 seconds.
you fagots sittin hear sayin mir’s a bitch for not standin up, well if brocks such a good fighter an shit why couldnt he survive on the ground,so you fuckers who dont know shit bout mma just sit down an shut the fuck up
dam, still good for his second only proffesional fight
the referre did a good job!mir wins and that’s no excuse.lesnar lose and that’s no excuse also.Be a gentleman and accept your defeat…god bless UFC AND ALL ITS REFERREE…MIR YOUR GREAT FIGHTER LIKE CHUCK LIDDEL AND WANDERLEI SILVA…
that point being taken away was garbage,there has been way worse with only a warning,I think Lesnar did well for his second fight. He needs to work on his technique big time. Mir didn’t impress me as much as I thought he would, but a win is a win. Both of those fighters will be around for a while.
STEVE: and ufc is different then mma. In mma you can give shots to the back of the head repeatedly. ufc you cant cause your in the caged octagon as opposed to a ring.
WTF are you talking about?!… Ring/Octagon… stop trying to act like you know anything. There is no organization that allows punches to the back of the head you dumb shit!
sure we knew mir is a submission master but look at the power of lesnar sure you guys dont like him because of wwe. but he did beat the shit out of a former ufc HWT champion and hats what you fuckers dont see. lesnar just needed a little more experience and trust me he will learn from this hes got time to learn and beconme the champ in the future. that was a text book submission he got caught on and well he was forced to tapout. props to lesnar though cant wait to see him fight again.
i think mir got lucky, lesnar had him!
i gotta hand it to lesnar i didnt think he would do as good as he did but i think the next time they fight it will be different and hes gunna go for the knock out
That big fucker can’t even make it in the WWE. Why did anyone think he could make it in the UFC he also didn’t make it in the NFL. So I did tell my mom Brock Lesnar lost.She paused for a moment as I told her Frank mir submitted him. She looked at me again for a pause and said….. you really need a life!
brock would of killed him standing up i think we all know that. and i think mir is a dick bag who just got lucky. give brock a little more time and then well see who the next champ will be. have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW saw this last night!!!Man we all predicted this as the outcome brock tapped like a girl!!!looked like he knew right away what to do,tap, tap,tap man I love Mirs reaction when he got the sub down priceless!!!and for all these girls on here that are talking about mir being a lesser fighter please go back to your basements and wait for the WWE fight..IDIOTS
I’m an huge MMA fan but for you dumbasses that say brock is all size and strenght or talk this WwE crap you are a fool. Brock (like many wrestlers) is naturally going to start out as a ground and pounder, but definately not going to be a BJJ expert. Brock was blatantly robbed by steve, and I am shocked it happened. Mir did a great job submitting him, but he might not have gotten the chance if it wasn’t for the point deduction.
alrite this fight was big bull shyt steve mazighatti fucked lesnar over bad he didnt even give him a warning for hitting in the back of the head if it would have been herb dean he would have said watch the back of the head and let it continue and lesnar would of won as he should have by knockout instead of getting submited… lesnar will be back with more improved skills and will have his title shot soon
Ok, first off, Mir ain’t no damn pushover, he’s been there before in long fights, he knows what it takes. At the pace Lesnar was pushing, he would have gassed FAST in the first round. Mir is a ex world champ, AND he was in a motorcycle accident that put him out of the UFC, or any other fight org. for 2 years. Not a pushover in the slightest. It’s simply amazing that he is back. WWE is fake as fuck, Lesnar had no clue what he was getting himself into. I’ll give him the fact he’s a good wrestler, and he took Mir down hard, and hit him hard, but those hammers to the back of Mirs head were fucked up. Totally illegal, there’s a reason why dumbshits, it’s only slightly harder than your temple back there, and your spinal cord is totally exposed, we’re talking permanent damage. Steve M is a great ref, he prolly should have stood them up faster, after just one shot to the back. Wanna see a bad ref lol, Herb Dean is the worst in MMA, he stands people up in stupid situations. just search in YouTube for Herb Dean screw ups, lol, you won’t find Steve M in that category.
Are you guys farking kidding me??? Lesner tapped out, meaning he quit. Part of the UFC is getting a tap, and Mir did exactly that. Yea, he took a few punchs, but that is how frank has always fought. He is still the Former HW champ in the UFC, and he is working on getting back there.
I think all of the hate for Frank is people that only watched this fight because it had lesner. WWE fans are the ones that are butt hurt, and saying Mir lost.
Brock Lesnar is dominate and he will dominate like no1 ever in the ufc has ever done B4…he dominated frank its just he stepped over him and made a mistake every1 loses he dominated frank mir its just when he stepped over him he fell and it was over…UFC better watch out…cause the trains commin through and its Brock Lesnar…to be the biggest guy in the ufc and that quick…it doesnt matter if he is the worst on the ground (in which he isnt) fighting the best on the ground its gonna be hard to get him in a submission unlike frank mir…he just stepped over…and gettin him in an upper body submission….like frank mir tried the armbar how many times?….huh..lol u better mark that out of the things to do list….all in all Brock Lesnar is gonna be the most dominate fighter in the Octagon.
I think Frank was rolling into that punch and he shouldn’t of lost a point for it.
I think if Brock can step up his jujitsu game he could be quite a force with his sheer size and power, and great wrestling skills.
This is exactly the way i thought the fight would turn out. Brock Lesnar only has size. He has no strength. If you hit someone the way he was hitting Mir then they should go out. This only shows that all Lesnar is, is talk. I think his UFC career is going to be straigh down hill. And to BLACKBELTKARATE, an unintentional hit to the back of the head is one thing, but he hit Mir three times while Mazagatti was saying stop. You dont know what you’re talking about so you can just shut the hell up.
I was really looking forward to the fight and it went pretty much as i expected. Thought it would have went a little longer but you have to give Brock some credit, he definitely has a bright future. I mean Frank Mir is a solid, experienced fighter. Brock needs to fight Tim Sylva…Sylva would get his ass handed to him.
Wow for all the people bashing brock there is a coule of things u have to realize. first is that was his firdt fight in the ufc and i would have to saya he did damn well but just got caught. second is if this guy gets some serious bjj training, you could be looking at the most dominant heavyweight the world of mma has seen. outrageous strength, size, speed, and heart. third is he was not fighting a nobody, frank mir is pretty damn good heavyweight when it comes to submisions. i wish the ufc would have put brock against a striker like tim sylvia, cro cop, or kongo. i guarantee he whips all there asses. we wiil see a much improved brock in his next fight.
ok great job to mir for getting the victory.. i was going for lesner and thought he was going to win unless he made a mistake from inexperience which he did and he paid for it mir is an amazing fighter who is going to capitalize on peoples mistakes great job on the win… for all u people talking shit about brock tapping if he doesnt tap he gets his leg broken and maybe never fights again stop hating on the guy because he lost… brock gets some expeience in bjj and he is probably going to be unstopable.. and besides fedor will dominate ne heavyweight in the ufc neways i dont like fedor but the guys good
that was mad unfair givin lesnar a former champ for his first ufc fight and second fight ever in his mma career, but now brock knows where he stands and wut he has to do to be the best. i bet brocks next fite will be against tim sylvia and mir’s next fite is gonna be for the title.
Obviously there are very little people on this forum that can be non bias. WWE vs UFC? The WWE was not represented, only 2 UFC fighters, regardless of there backgrounds. Lets be honest here.
1.Lesnar looked better than most probably expected.
2.Lesnar had Mir in some very compromising positions.
3.Steve M should never have stood up the fighters from one accidental strike to the back of the head, let alone deducted a point without warning for an accidental blow.(listen to Mike and Joe, they both were in awe).
4.Lesnar should have never been thrown to the wolves(Mir) in only his second fight.
5. None us really know how hurt or not Mir ever was.
6. Bottom line: Mir = Winner
PS. Looks like the public perception on Silvia was starting to look positive for him.
congrats. mir tapped out a guy who probably hasn’t even entered a JJ competition in his life. WAY TO GO BUDDY! might aswell tap out his brother in law at the next family BBQ
jujitsu 1 - wrestling 0
Good fight, didn’t know there was rules to fighting, lol, tell that to the guy I knocked out in the bar… This is crap, a punch is a punch, you put your head down, because your getting punched in the face they you get hit in the head, so this fight should be scrapped or you true fans should realize this isn’t a fight, its just a sport, like wwe…lol
Lesnar hits were hard, and it seemed Mir was dazed. Lesnar had bad footing when Mir was on the ground, mir knocked his legs out from under him and put him in a foot lock… it was only expected that an inexperienced Lesnar lossed. He’s lucky he wasn’t in an armbar…mir broke his last opponents wrist to win a fight.
So let me get this stragiht… Lesnar beats the crap out of him, but the other guy grabs his foot and twists it, so he wins? If this is a fight, Lesnar wins, but its not a fight, its a foot twisting contest, so the other guy wins.
Steve Mazzagatti is the worst ref in the UFC.
we all know mir was going to win. once the fight hits the ground, thats mir world BJJ isn;t easy to get :). gotta give it to brock his fast and strong. his no push over. if you saw that double take down. he switched lvls faster then any one is seen before. just needs to work on his jj defense. he was under trained for somone of mir’s level in the sport but give him time guys. but all the credit to mir for the win, he is a great fight one of the best.
CEEMAR 1991: if u were watching the fight frank turned into the strike ,brock hit him twice and steve never gave a warning, in the tyson griffin fight the other guy punch tyson in the back of the head 4 times and all he got was a warning,and to say brock has no strength u are just retarded.
Mir was out of it. That same ref called the first fight and warned that other fighter five times and still didn’t take a point from him. Lesnar did what he said he was gonna do. Not a mark on him. And he isn’t injured so he can continue his crazy workout routine. Lesnar is legit and now we all know that. Mir couldn’t even strike Lesnar and Leznar was faster and more accurate on his feet than Rick was. For Lesnar first fight, you can’t hold it against him for not seeing the swivel leg trap that eventually led to the kneebar; at that point Brock’s stance was too wide anyway. He will be back.
Brock Lesnar will be the heavy weight champ…he fights again in a few months
mir pulled a mayweather and gave his back to avoid getting hurt even more than he had been. bad call by the referee.
he kept frank mir alive by resetting him. brock is going to be a force. they fight again hes going to hurt mir bad and fast. lesnar will be the most dominant heavyweight in mma history.
Mir is just lucky that its only Brock 2nd mma fight. Otherwise, Brock would have destroyed Mir. I liked to see Brock fight Tim Silva, he would kill Tim’s big ass. I bet Brock Lesnar doesnt loose a fight for a long time now.
I was a brock hater but he proved he has very good potential. With more training in BJJ he could be a force to reckon with. He was very classy in his interviews. He clearly has the size and strength to over power anyone in that division, he just needs to tune up his skills.
Mir’s just lucky that its only Brock 2nd mma fight. Otherwise, Brock would have destroyed Mir. I liked to see Brock fight Tim Silva, he would kill Tim’s big ass. I bet Brock Lesnar doesnt loose a fight for a long time now.
mir is like nogeira got beat on stand up or punches but insane with the submission
you guys are retarded i swear. the better fighter won and that it. Stop whining like little girls man. Lesner has no experience and lost to a much better opponent. Also, lesner picked this fight so its his dumb fault for fighting him. Thats what he gets for being an over sized ape.
Brock who? Another attempt from a one demensional wrestler trying to compete in a sport that you actually hit someone. I agree he was putting down the smackdown, but he needs to be sent down to the minors to learn to crawl before he walks.
and to all the WWE fans who are bitter, heres another stab. Wrestling is fake. ![]()
So is Frank Mir the WWE champ now? The UFC should have a tag team match- nogueira and mir vs sylvia and lesnar.
bhahahaha….. I can’t stop laughing …..that Nick guy talking about how dominant Lesnar was and is gonna be ….bhahahahaha …… Let me ask all the cry babies that are talkin abut how dominant Lesnar was two questions, would you rather take a few punches or get your FUCKING LEG BROKEN AND POSSIBLY SEVERED AT THE KNEE!!?? Had you rather bleed a little or WALK WITH A LIMP FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!?? No reply neccessary…Brock Lesnar answered for all you cry babies when he so dominantly tapped to avoid having his leg broken. I wonder if Lesnar felt dominant as he limped around the octagon listening to Bruce Buffer announce Frank Mir as the WINNER of the bout due to a SUBMISSION by knee bar.
steve fucked up it happens and he works for NSAC NOT for UFC btw
I agree with MackTruck’s comment.
Lesnar and Kimbo Slice should fight… with the winner (if the word ‘winner’ shoud even be used for either one) taking on the Iron Sheik in a bout that will be televized and shown free on large screen televisions in trailer parks all over the world. Ohhh, there I go fantasizing again if only the world was perfect. hahahahaha
lol at all the haters
i second that tag team match with special guest referee sean michels
Sour grapes, anyone?… Sounds like the WWE hype-wagon is rollin’ outta town now. Too bad. Those who jumped on it gotta realize that Danna thought he was feedin’ Mir to Lesner, but ooops!, it didn’t quite work out as expected. Kurt Angle and the rest of the WWE Zoo forgot to remind Brock’orilla that he would need a lot more than a big mouth and a one-dimensional game to stop Frank Mir. Yep, we got treated to all the hype and glitz but bottom line, all the pissing and whining that is getting posted in this string is from “experts” who needed a REALITY CHECK and got it! One more thing, hats off to Brock for tapping really well! Ouch, my kneee hurts!!!
1) I am not a fan of WWE or any other entertainment sport wrestling.
A good fight.
I anticipated a submission loss( as many did), UFC one on one showed Lesnar’s training regime, lots of strenght and cardio and only glossed over any of his BJJ trianing or other MMA training.
There is no doubt about it he is a hulk, WWE is entertainment sport, no one denies these gentleman are in good athletic condition, you would have to be to perform thise acrobatics week in and week out. NO ONe HAS EVER SAID THAT wwe is “real fighting”.
Lesnar fell due to inexperience- plain and simple- with some further training he will do well in the UFC or anyother MMA venue.
You can not blame the ref- they make mistakes in all sports
clearly Lesnar was warned re: the back of the head strikes and they were stood up.
For those whining about Lesnar had Mir in the ground and pound and this was a crappy “girly win by leglock” - you bet he did- and guess what superior technique won the fight.
That my friends is MMA
For those whimpering it was an unfair fight” Lesnar’s 1st vs a former champ”- Lesnar could’ve said no- he is a big boy and entered a fight he thought he could win- we’ve all done that- brock will take his lumps ( like all fighters do) learn some lessons about BJJ defense and come back a better MMA fighter for it.
Those are my thoughts for what they are worth.
Cheers everyone till the next big MMA event in March
for those who said lesner had no skill, he got out of some arm bars and made some impressive take downs. what he needs to learn is counters, some jujitsu of his own, and most of all he needs to learned to Mount if he full mounted mir would be nothing more than a blood stain on the mat.
lesnar and the rest of the wwe should stay out of real fighting. imagine if he fought one of the better heavey weights. this should shut kurt angle up, unless he wants to man up and get humiliated as well. keep the glam in the wwe. ufc should be about bringing heart not hype.
hes a good wrestler.. but thats all.. hes just a big guy which gives him a stand up advantage over someone who isnt a striker.. but when it comes to skill as a mixe martial artist.. lesnor has NONE
Everyone of these WWE fans need to get their head on straight.
Brock lesnar will be great for a few reasons-again.. if he wants to be..
1. He is a millionare.. he can afford the best trainers anywhere and afford to train with the best fighters.
2. He is athletic for his size. Moves great for his weight. He is also a pretty damn good fighter for only 2 fights.
3. He is also strong as hell. I have read some of his lifting stats-amazing. Which means for MMA-he will probably be able to power bomb guys in the air like Rampage has done in the past.
I think he could be great. Frank Mir is awesome-one of my favorites. I thought he would win the fight with a submission-and he did. If Brock trains correctly with BJJ and top notch fighters-he will be a great contendor, possibly champion someday.
Some of you peeps really don’t know shit about MMA and should not even bother posting. And for the record-it is a shame that was his UFC debut fight. I thought he was outclassed from jumpstreet. Name anyone in the UFC within the last 5 years that had 1 MMA fight , then took on a former HW champion… that’s right, none. Great way to sell tickets, but shitty for Lesnar. I am actually impressed from what I seen from Lesnar, but his BJJ stinks-he needs great improvement to dominate the HW division.
Anyone that doesn’t agree with me, I will gladly argue my points further. If you turn into “ride this beotch!”, then I won’t bother with such uneducated thug drivell.
I couldn’t believe that dumbass ref took a point deduction after ONE hammerfist to the back of the head, EVERY SINGLE OTHER fight i’ve seen in a similar situation, the ref has given a warning first. Mir was simply lucky brock wasn’t being careful, otherwise he would CONTINUE to have been dominated.
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I don’t think they should stay out of “real fighting” as you put it.
I think they should learn some skill b4 talking smack and entering a ring where the outcome is not predetermined by a script.
lesnar has proven that he has championship roman greco wrestling skill, he has proven he has size and power, however he has also proven to be elementary in his knowledge of BJJ and defense.
This transition proves to me and I hope others that you can not be a one dimensional Fighter in MMA. I hope this lets other fight sport enthusiasts realize that UFC, Pride and MMA in general is a “real sport”
Cheers as always
lesnar did better than most at 2 years experience.altho- he walked right into that sub, and mir did his thing. mir is outta shape bigtime and was lucky it ended cuz he was gassin. years of jj helped him tonite but barely. give lesnar time, to learn sub defense
How many times have you heard Steve say, “Watch the back of the head!” five times to a fighter during a fight and never do anything. Brock was singled out because of who he is. Frank was getting his ass handed to him and Steve saved his ass in a poor call. Do you people think that love tap of a hammer fist grazing Frank’s head hurt him in any way? But… Frank Mir DID win the fight. Brock lacks the experience against the submission skills of someone like Mir. I would however love to see Brock Lesnar vs. Tim Silvia!
Mannn. Brock is ganna come back. He just lacks the experience right now but hes ganna dominate eventually. He will probably lose more future fights but hes ganna come back that much stronger.
All you WWE fans are just retarted. Submissions are not fighting? WTF? Brock didnt have to tap out and keep fighting with a broken leg… See how well can he do without his leg!!!
Most ground and pound fighters are not true fighters… They are just muscles with no brain… Its like having a 2000hp car without any steering!! and the result shows exactly that…
Steve is a great ref. It was a great call. People like brock should not be allowed in MMA. He is too reckless. He has no control of himself. A fighter is someone who is skilled in fighting, someone who have control, and not all muscle and swinging wild hoping he will hit something. He might as well low blow frank while he at it or poke his eyes out.
Even if brock wins… he would be just another “strong guy”… not a fighter…
Brock reminds me of Bob Sapp,all size and strength but very little skill.He will end up with a record no better than sapps too I bet.But considering the UFC is more about making money than setting up decent fights its no wonder they let guys like brock get in the ring with a fighter that totally outclasses him.
with the point i think its just because. its lezners frist fight. and his a super strong guy like one of them shots could realy hurt somone soo steve was just trying to tell you HAY this crap isn’t going to fly in here. smarten up
It is so funny, how Frank Mir is being critized because he supposedly, fought a white belt, in ground fighting. Well, Brock Lesnar, should have taken more time, to prepare, if he is considered a white belt.
MMA, is still mixed martial arts, right? So, if Brock Lesnar’s ground skills, were not there, why take the fight?
Wether MMA or a street fight, if I fight someone as big as Brock Lesnar, I am not going to trade punches, with a guy that size. Brock Lesnar, is clearly bigger than Frank Mir.
Frank Mir, did what he had to do, to win.
Brock Lesnar, was doing quite well, in the initial part of the fight however, Frank Mir, knowing that this is MMA, used what he felt, may give him the victory. In this fight, it was an ankle lock. Is it illegal?
frank got lucky and every1 knows it
whys everyone hating on lesnar… if he learns his ass some bjj he’ll porb be one of the best heavyweights in the world… he lasted longer and looked more impressive than the 2 time ufc heavywight champ tim silvia…..
Lesner showed absolutely no skill. he’s slow and dumb, and when he had dominant position his punches were very poorly executed. apparently his years of MMA training didnt teach