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cuervoplays Says, in 3-20-2012 at 15:14:18 from    

I’m obviously an MMA fan (or wouldn’t be on this site), and in favor of sanctioning in NY and elsewhere.

That said, I get tired of pro-MMA people supporting their arguments with comparisons to boxing. It’s false logic and sounds retarded, especially when a person goes on and on about it. Just because something is safer than boxing doesn’t mean it should be sanctioned. Move on to a different tactic.

Oh, and can anyone saying that MMA is the fastest growing sport produce a single stat to support that? Anyone?

gripman Says, in 3-20-2012 at 15:53:28 from    

The argument sounds solid to me. Critics say the reason it shoudn’t be sanctioned is that it isn’t safe and mma advocates compare the safety stats to a sport that is already sanctioned. Ummmm…isn’t that logic 101?

Oswald Cobblepot Says, in 3-20-2012 at 15:59:41 from    

MMA is not legal in NY because the UFC does not align with productive organizations…boys & girls clubs, YMCA, colleges or universities…the same people that vote no to MMA vote yes to educational initiatives. Harley Davidson and Bud Light set the mood for UFC progress.

stu11 Says, in 3-20-2012 at 16:28:01 from    

What sport do you think is growing faster? …Moron

J-Bone Says, in 3-20-2012 at 16:50:51 from    

Not a fan at all of Mr Crowder, but a good video. Sonnen’s point at the end sum’s up a lot of societies fundamental problems, that being corrupt, slimeball politician’s.

glassjoe Says, in 3-20-2012 at 17:22:38 from    

Cuervoplays, which union are you are a part of???????
When the arguement that it is too dangerous for New York state as to why it is not allowed then you have have to defend it with the facts that boxing is a more dangerous sport. That is their arguement and it shows why utilizing that as an “excuse” when every other state in the union allows then it is bogus.

As for MMA being the fastest growing sport, here is your article:


JoeDog Says, in 3-20-2012 at 18:17:01 from    

It’s James Toney’s fault?

Grape Soda Says, in 3-20-2012 at 18:32:47 from    

Good video, thank you corrupt greedy unions and your gangster labor monopoly, killing revenue for NY because you want to run the table in the casino labor market.
Scum bags.

zmayo Says, in 3-20-2012 at 19:02:22 from    

I dont live in NY so I dont care. I think its stupid people dont recognize it as a great sport. Boxing is a good comparison because its serious violence that’s widely embraced.

cuervoplays Says, in 3-20-2012 at 22:01:06 from    

Glassjoe: Not part of a union. I’m a pretty big MMA fan and I would love to see MMA sanctioned in NY.

Thanks for posting the article. Good read. The article shows that based on that study, in that market the UFC grew faster than other listed major sports during the years 2007-2009. That’s not the same as being the fastest growing sport in the world, then or now.

Gripman: If you accept the premise that any sport that is not as dangerous as boxing should be sanctioned as a true premise, and convincing others of that is the key to sanctioning, then yes, it is logic 101. But in logic 101 we learn to identify a false premise. That is a false premise. It’s like saying that MMA is safer than smoking, and smoking is legal in NY, so MMA should be legal. There are other reasons why it is not sanctioned in NY.

Stu11: I don’t go around making claims that any sport is growing faster than others. I just think it would be nice if anyone could point to a single source that shows that the UFC is growing faster than any other sport. I haven’t seen it yet.

Ozinator Says, in 3-20-2012 at 23:14:32 from    

yeah, screw unions and working people making a stand altogether! If workers would just accept that they are greedy and instead take what master gives them, then awesome rulers like Lorenzo would pull their obedience sticks out of your uptight assets and trickle down your throats even more entertainment. War sycophancy!

kidfrosty Says, in 3-21-2012 at 00:53:02 from    

I can’t imagine what sport would be growing faster. It would be hard to quantify the individuals, but I would have to say that based soley on new storefronts in my area, martial arts, kickboxing, mma gyms, etc are out-pacing bocce ball by about a billion to one.
I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the storyline in S.I. that mma officially ki11ed boxing.

kidfrosty Says, in 3-21-2012 at 01:02:17 from    

New York City is a union stinkhole. Group-think morons with muscle…

marvelous mad madam mim Says, in 3-21-2012 at 01:51:40 from    

this is nothing but NY gangsters battling Nevada gangsters

Goomba Says, in 3-21-2012 at 02:08:26 from    

The fact that the study proved that it grew faster than any other sport during those years gives more credit to the notion that it is the fastest growing sport today because of the recent successes of the UFC, i.e. more international events and deal with Fox. While it doesn’t one-hundred percent prove the point, it does give it more credit. You on the other hand, offer no evidence of the contrary.

You and I know Gripman’s premise is not that any and all activities which are “safer” than other activities should be legalized. Grip’s point is more specific than that. It compares two similar sports. You on the other and are comparing two completely unrelated activities: smoking and MMA. Therefore, it’s not like comparing smoking and MMA.

You say you haven’t seen any sources which say MMA is growing faster than any other sport, but state in your first paragraph, “in that market the UFC grew faster than other listed major sports during the years 2007-2009.” You contradicted yourself throughout your entire post. Stop trying to sound smart broooooooo

KungFuLowKick Says, in 3-21-2012 at 10:51:32 from    

Unions had their places 100 years ago when people had no working conditions,no minimum wage,no safety etc.Now countries have rules that if yuour boss is an asshole,he will lose his buisness and you will sue him.The casino employee simply don’t want a cut of their pay taken to make the salary of mobsters who don’t do anything to improve the workers condition except stupid things like a work week of 39.5 hours instead of 40 or lame augmentations of 0.10$(wich is useless because they give more to the unions then they get back in augmentations).If you are for unions in 2012 in the USA,you should do some research.

alwaysright Says, in 3-22-2012 at 08:10:31 from    

I’m not from N.Y, so I don’t care.

FedorFailsAgain Says, in 3-26-2012 at 20:43:44 from    

Just tell us where you burried Jimmy Hoffa and we’ll work our way UP from there mkay?…


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