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coutura Says, in 9-10-2011 at 10:29:04 from    

thats true ufc fighter get paid nothing its a shame tools

f_u Says, in 9-10-2011 at 10:47:36 from    

This guy is a peice of s***. I hope he gets gang r**** and murdered.

JesusHatesYou Says, in 9-10-2011 at 10:51:11 from    

Im gonna stream the boxing fight for free after the real fights. F*** you Bob you peice of dog s***. Die slow

d8ms77 Says, in 9-10-2011 at 10:55:40 from    

Cenile old F***

DonNs Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:15:04 from    

WHy everyone hating on him ???? He’s only speaking the truth, the UFC is a monopoly and ripping off all the fighters.

joey deacon Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:29:21 from    

‘Bad mouths UFC’ is an interesting way of framing this interview.

Bob Arum makes good points here regarding figher remuneration and the different business models in MMA and boxing.

I didnt really hear any bad mouthing.

badgerpit76 Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:35:42 from    

I usually see things differently when ol’ Bob opens his mouth, but in this interview, he happens to be correct. UFC is a monopoly, and when a business is a monopoly, they get to set their own prices. In this case, lower pay for the fighters. Sad, but true.

mr. x Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:37:48 from    

Bob is right about the pay. MMA fighters need to form a union in order to get a piece of the pie.

mr. x Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:40:48 from    

Correction: a bigger piece of the pie.

asbarran Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:54:42 from    

Hey u idiots, he’s saying the damn truth morons… 90% of UFC fighters get paid s h i t!!! If it wasn’t because sponsorships they would be flippin burgers @ your local Mc.Donalds.
IT IS THE TRUTH DEAL WITH IT… I love mma but have to agree with this man

asbarran Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:55:15 from    

F_U u are the POS…. DONKEY

Ozinator Says, in 9-10-2011 at 11:56:03 from    

all working people should beg for their food and have the decency to shut up and die when they are useless. How dare anyone think that just because they mine the gold, they should keep any of it. We the owners of the world demand that you get back to work or we’ll replace you.

tobes Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:02:15 from    

Yeah, he talked dirty bout the UFC last time if I remember but nothing he says here is insulting or untrue. That thing he said about percentages is interesting. Consider a PPV where the UFC gets 1 million buys. That’s got to be somewhere around $30,40 million in revenue (or more) especially if you total the gate. How much of that goes to the fighters??
UFC is essentially a monopoly. It’s good for the sport now to be under its banner… it helps with promotion and marketability and expansion. However, in the future, I hope legitimate competition to the UFC arrives.

urbanangel22 Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:08:52 from    

Agreed. This was clearly not a case of bad mouthing… deceptive title.

ash Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:13:38 from    

i agree he’s just speaking the truth.

UFC has the monopoly on mma, and they dont even pay much. do you know even C level boxers make over 100k per fight

McClinchey Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:14:39 from    

IMO i think someone making 20 mill for one fight id say that sport has the broken model. The fact that hes not bringing up is that boxers on the undercard of a boxing promotion isnt making as much as the undercard fighters in the ufc. Just because boxing gives its best fighters crazy pay days doesnt make it better Bob.

MMAGiantSilva Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:24:27 from    

Wow he makes great points you posters must not have watched. I think he is really accurate about the fact that boxing besides Don King pays 80% to the fighters while UFc pays well less than 20%

RearNakedSmoke Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:24:28 from    

The part of me that used to love boxing as a kid is saddened to see what a pathetic joke the sport has become.
10 years from now, the idea of paying 60 bucks to see 2 guys getting in a ring with big padded gloves on and punching the s*** out of each other for 36 minutes will be arcane.
I’m sorry, but he lost me at “20 mil. a fight”. I love Pacquiao, and am all for fighters getting paid, but 20 mil a fight is clearly quite excessive, and to ask us poor folks to shell out 60 bucks to facilitate an overpayment of an athlete is just silly.
And 20 bucks says that Arum did that interview with a loaded diaper.

Lando Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:26:14 from    

agreed…what bad-mouthing? Sounds true to me.

Moedawg Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:28:41 from    

@joey deacon

NigerianBoxingMan Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:30:09 from    

Bob Arum isn’t talking crap he’s telling the truth. Why do you think Manny Pacman turned down $30 million simply to not take a blood test for the Floyd Mayweather Fight? Because he’s juicing and knows he could just make $20 down the road while not getting exposed for taking roids. YouTube Teddy Atlas on Manny taking steroids. UFC is a monopoly but then again it’s far less dangerous and brutal than boxing is. They’re is an average of 8 deaths a years in boxing; thee has never been a death in MMA. So I personally believe that because the boxing are putting themselves in a far greater danger that merits a hight payday.

Savage Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:30:12 from    

I actually think he’s right, but on the other hand…the UFC and MMA has only just hit mainstream the past year or 2, quite the contrary to boxing. I’m willing to bet in 50 years when MMA has seen several generations of fighters and has had time to evolve in popularity and talent we will see a multi million dollar fight purse. It simply jus hasn’t had enough time to reach the maturity level of boxing.

Reallynow? Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:35:20 from    

And like boxing hasnt been the most corrupt fighting sport??? Give me a f***** break. Weak.

2 TUFF Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:36:20 from    

I agree with him. One corporation own the whole sport. Dana can pay the fighters as little as he wants.

one thing i dont agree with is that only famous boxers get payed lots of money there isnt any money in boxing unless you are a champion

Bashimus Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:44:46 from    

It’s amazing to me that any reasonable person would disagree with this guy. He is absolutely right. I would love to hear Dana’s bullshit response to this…..common Dana let’s hear some more bullshit! I love MMA but the UFC is a f****** POS!!

casemax Says, in 9-10-2011 at 12:47:49 from    

I agree, mayweather was paid 100 million for the delahoya fight. My coach always encouraged boxing over mma for that reason.

T Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:04:05 from    

he didnt bad mouth at all!!!
poor headline
he is saying the complete truth ,
UFC fighters do not get paid enough as they should,
they work 3 times harder than boxers, mastering more skills,
training in more facilities ,
giving a huge show, and still not getting paid enough.

casyboy Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:09:28 from    

anglos?, what about the saxon’s, dam Arums an old fart, he should cough, i think jimmy hoffa is stuck in his throught!

Freaklegion Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:22:33 from    

Ya, I missed the Bad mouthing… unless he was lying.

The top end UFC fighters make good money, not 20million, but 20million is retarded.

But the lower end guys sure get the shaft.

Georges St. Pierre Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:22:55 from    

I’m with you DonNs, the UFC needs to pay it’s fighters better. I know they make money through sponsorships but it’s still not even close to boxers.

I totally disagree with the title of this. And I’m as big of a MMA and UFC fan as any of you guys and gals.

T’Challa Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:25:24 from    

Agreed. I don’t hear any bad mouthing, he’s just expressing his opinion, which at least concerning the top boxers is true. Big name boxers do make way more than the top UFC fighters.. Plus, he’s an old man trying to protect his business, no need to hate on “Granpa”.

Jack Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:28:20 from    

Bob Arum spoke the truth about hard facts. UFC don’t pay there fighters nothing,and is is a shame while Fertita bros ans Dana reap the profits.

Nikki Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:38:25 from    

joey deacon I 100% agree. UFC fighter do not make that much and they fight up to 3-4 times a year.

Clemmit Says, in 9-10-2011 at 13:58:37 from    

@ joey deacon
Bob Arum was explaining the ufc’s business model as a negative. So you could say that he was ‘bad mouthing’ it. He certainly wasn’t singing it’s praises.

Does a fighter need to make 20 million a fight and be empowered to the point he can pick and choose his opponents and deny fans (the people who pay his wages) the match ups they want to see. I don’t think so.

I don’t see any problem with the UFC controlling it’s employees (fighters) with a reasonable wage. And maitaining the monopoly over other organisations.

20 million is a pretty disgusting wage to earn when you consider the state of the economy. I know you will probably argue that the job of a fighter is dangerous and takes it’s toll but so does any job.

I think the UFC takes care of the fans 1st, we are the people who make the sport, boxing looks after the fighters 1st.

It’s not as if UFC fighters are starving. If you want to pay them all 20 million per fight and create hundreds of different organisations so that we never get to see fighters from the different divisions compete then you are on a different planet to me.

Jbs77 Says, in 9-10-2011 at 14:02:28 from    

I like how he raising boxing up as a better sport because their top fighters earn bigger purses. Boxing is boring, I don’t care how much money any of them earn, how about dos nuts?

JonDoe123 Says, in 9-10-2011 at 14:33:12 from    

Yea I think the title is all to “off” here. This will give some UFC fighters a chance to think about how they make Dog sh*t. UFC is a monopoly. He’s right! Then He says Manny will make $20 Million. You couldn’t take all the UFC purses over 6 months to compete with that. Excellent commentary Bob!!! We’ll see what Dana comes back with, if anything!

sooooopernate Says, in 9-10-2011 at 14:47:04 from    

Yeah Bob, 80% of the revenue goes to the main event, and less than 1% is split between the undercard. You make peanuts as a boxing prize fighter until you make it to the top. And the monopoly point? What about the NBA, NFL, MLB, and so on? Those guys seem to be paid pretty well for monopolies. Truth is, the UFC is still growing, and it doesn’t have the capital yet to pay their guys millions of dollars every year, but that’s not to say that they don’t make a good living, on the contrary. Bonuses are pushing 100k now, plus they get sponsorships, ppv cuts, and they fight multiple times a year. When was Floyd’s last fight? When you can be a prima donna and command 40 mill a fight, you can pick and choose your fights, which is terrible for the fans (that’s why we haven’t seen pac v may yet). I understand he’s in direct competition with mma so he has to highlight boxing’s strengths and mma’s weaknesses, so just take his comments with a grain of salt. I wish boxing was more like the UFC in terms of unification, 80 dif weight classes and title belts are a little ridiculous. Sorry for the diatribe.

Ozinator Says, in 9-10-2011 at 14:58:39 from    

clemmit and rearnaked,

And is there any amount of money that a promoter can make that you’d find disgusting, or do they deserve all of those private jets that “we the fans” pay to watch them fly around in? I’d argue that “we the fans” pay for watching the fighters fight. The USA has become a nation of self hating sycophants.

PitFighterZ Says, in 9-10-2011 at 15:19:17 from    

Both sports still pay sh*t to 90% of the fighters. The difference between boxing and MMA is that the boxing model is already broken and can’t really be fixed any time soon. Boxing will eventually have to go under and be resurrected to become exciting again.
Although MMA is now concentrated in the Zuffa’s hands, you still have a few different models in people’s radars and a few smaller orgs. with some real potential. MMA is not frozen like boxing is and can evolve and become much better than the UFC and much better than boxing. Imagine a model where all professional fighters have some health security and make enough to pay the gym and the bills.
I couldn’t give less than a f*ck of how much the top fighters make. $500k or $20 mil for any athlete sounds absolutely unnecessary waste of money on people who contribute very little to society. I still think the gyms and coaches who get this young kids and take the time and effort to keep them out of the streets and teaching them some decent and noble skills are the ones who should be making a bigger share of the profits. I’d say 50% of all the money goes to the coaching team (not just the gym owner), 25% to the fighters, 15% to all the support people not related to the gym) and 10% to the orgs. After all, the gyms and coaches are the ones investing the most in the sport (relatively).

johnathandoeseph Says, in 9-10-2011 at 15:28:45 from    

this video makes no sense because if you look at the wages of boxers 10-15 years after boxing was created it was NOWHERE near what UFC fighters get paid today…the UFC not only pays more then boxers were getting paid 10-15 years into the sports creation they also treat the fighters alot better and give them insurance and purses plus pay the undercards 8-10 times more then boxers on undercards they also treat the fans 100% percent better which is what its all about…hes an idiot and thats why boxing is spiraling into the ground

johnathandoeseph Says, in 9-10-2011 at 15:33:45 from    

wait until the UFC is as old as boxing is and then you can say they are underpaid its unfair to say that about business thats brand new because OBVIOUSLY they cant pay fighters what a sport 10 times as old as the UFC can pay…if anyone doesnt see that logic then try starting a fighting company today and paying them what boxers get paid as well as putting on the type of events that UFC puts on…you’ll see then that the UFC does an great job with pay and events

Op_of_Faith Says, in 9-10-2011 at 15:34:12 from    

Arum was correct here-nothing but props…

The Creep Says, in 9-10-2011 at 15:47:12 from    

He is not bad mouthing at all, he is just telling the truth!

nascent_ninja Says, in 9-10-2011 at 15:55:22 from    

“so in other words boxing still ov ufc..” what??

wulfis Says, in 9-10-2011 at 16:01:18 from    

No bad mouthing at all, Top UFC Fighters make 500k plus sponships, at most hitting 1 mil. Prime boxers make millions.

MMA Richmond Says, in 9-10-2011 at 16:10:56 from    

Usually a dork, but, today, he kept it real

thaifighter Says, in 9-10-2011 at 16:38:03 from    

for once Bob isnt bashing mma but that said his facts arent really on point. yes top name boxers make more but thats it. all the money paid out on a ufc undercard beats the undercard of a top rank show. but to say fighters in the ufc cant make a good living is going a little far because i know a bunch of guys that do just fine. top rank may also pay out 80% to the fighters but how much is left after Pacquiao and Marquez take their GIANT SHARE of that revenue. I wouldnt say the UFC pays 20% but i also wouldnt think they are paying past 40% either. just one more fact to point out boxing is a world wide establisted accepted sport and the UFC does possibly up to 90% of the work breaking into new markets and parts of the world doing all that takes a big pile of cash that boxing as a sport never really had to do. if the UFC wasnt doing that all the time and the sport was legally accepted everywhere the paydays would deffinetly be higher. if they werent then ya could say they are keeping more than they should but right now there is no evidence to back that up

thaifighter Says, in 9-10-2011 at 16:44:15 from    

and another thing the ufc has to be payin a f***** assload of money for fighter accident insurence. boxing has been around payin the money for a damn long time but they never have taken care of their fighters like that ever. that in its self has to have quite the drain on their revenue

jdogg Says, in 9-10-2011 at 16:50:30 from    

Anybody here that wishes bodily harm/death on Arum for stating his opinon really need to step back and re-evalute themselves. I mean, Seriously. I hope you people are not calling yourselves adults making comments like that. He didn’t even say anything worth getting upset over lol. Good lord.

PizzaPugilist Says, in 9-10-2011 at 16:58:05 from    

Lets make this clear. The UFC, no matter what you think of their shows or business practices, is NOT a monopoly. They do not have %100 percent control of the market, and since this is a free country (for the most part), any joe schmoe like yourself can invest in, and create a fight promotion and choose NOT to sell it when the UFC starts breathing down your neck. I much prefered PRIDE FC personally, but I can also appreciate the UFC’s aggressive business practices. If fighters want more money, I agree with SAVAGE in that it’s just a matter of time.

sephong Says, in 9-10-2011 at 17:13:41 from    

bob arum is a good guy…don’t say bad things against him because he only says the truth…hard to accept but all he said was true. he is not destroying the reputation of the fighters in UFC but rather exposing some negative management or system of the company.

I.C.E agent Says, in 9-10-2011 at 17:21:58 from    

Again,fans acting like they know what it takes to run a company like the UFC!
Its not as black and white as many of you think!You people you think Bob is telling the truth,and not spinning it to fit is agenda,are pretty gullible.

The UFC is not a monopoly,there are other mma promotions!! Just because they are the biggest and most popular,doesn’t make it a monopoly!

Everyone of you guys that think he is correct,don’t know what the hell you are talking about!Its not as simple as you guys think!There is a lot more to it then what he claims,and he knows it,but he says it because he knows that people like you will buy into it.

Only the fans cry about this,99% of the UFC fighters are happy fighting in the UFC,and making a good living!

Kyle Says, in 9-10-2011 at 17:36:47 from    

he’s just being real about it, it’s the truth..I can respect that.

lllibbbo Says, in 9-10-2011 at 17:54:54 from    

it is clear from a fan’s perspective you want the ufc business model: let the top fighters in the world fight as frequently as possible. who give a sh@@ how much they get paid? we all be watching paqcuiao vs mayweather 3 now if boxing were run by ufc… too much drama for boxing

Crazywhitie Says, in 9-10-2011 at 18:48:18 from    

People need to understand that Boxing has been around alot longer the most sports.. many in 20 years with a super stable economy MMA Fighters will get paid more.. How many Boxers do you no? who’s the Heavyweight champ? you only know the big names thats all

KeyboardWarrior Says, in 9-10-2011 at 19:12:23 from    

UFC doesn’t have a Monopoly. Technically, it is an Oligopology, in which there are a few dominant companies in terms of market share. Sure, the UFC doesn’t have much competition, but they have some…

wcoastassassin Says, in 9-10-2011 at 19:30:27 from    

Yes boxing has been around for a long time. There is nothing that Bob Arum said that is not true though. Dana is growing a sport that has already possibly passed boxing in popularity with young people and he has a chance to make it way bigger. Maybe not a bad idea for boxing right now to put on a few big fights on free tv to gain some viewers but he’s right they pay out to one big fighter more than UFC pays out for 5 or 6 cards. Chuck Liddell was lucky if he made $20 million for his whole career. Tyson and Holyfield grossed over $60 million between the 2 of them for one fight and that was 15 years ago

mirfan Says, in 9-10-2011 at 19:35:42 from    

i dont think he really bad mouthed ufc. he was just stating that they get paid a lot less…which no one can really deny that

Ruddo293 Says, in 9-10-2011 at 19:40:15 from    

There is only really money in boxing for the top guys. Those guys fighting on the undercards don’t make anything really. Maybe 30k at most if they are lucky. Of course you will never see a MMA fighter make 20 million a fight because then the promotion would be lose millions. We seen something similar with Affliction; they were paying huge purses to guys who didn’t deserve it. Paying Matt Lindland 300k? Tim Sylvia 800k? All in all, it’s good to see these guys get paid what they deserve, but from a business perspective, it’s a huge loss for the company. Most of these guys would make less elsewhere and they would take the money regardless.

morbidcro Says, in 9-10-2011 at 20:37:43 from    

Does anyone know what the lesser known boxers fight? Like what’s the amount each boxer is making for their ppv? $20 million for one fight? That by far surpasses everyone from a UFC ppv. I’ve seen the undercard for a UFC event where the fighters get paid $6,000. I imagine UFC sells more than boxing nowaday (I could be completely wrong) and can pay the fighters a lot more.

sterling Says, in 9-10-2011 at 20:44:26 from    

It’s the same with boxers. The top makes the money, the rest eat s***. Fight business is hard. I’d say that mma has a more even pay scale than boxing, but I’m no expert.

RearNakedSmoke Says, in 9-10-2011 at 21:02:01 from    

@ Pit. Well said, my friend. Well said.

Genghis Khan Says, in 9-10-2011 at 21:08:46 from    

Agree with Bob 100%. UFC fighters are getting screwed up the ass it’s not even funny. In 2010 PPV revenues alone were over 450 million dollars. Less than 3% of that went to the fighters..,

Boss Rutten Says, in 9-10-2011 at 21:15:05 from    

please, some1, let bas rutten get ahold of this guy

bob Says, in 9-10-2011 at 21:36:13 from    

he nailed it on the head – and what did UFC do – buy the competition out – keep the monopoly.

marvelous mad madam mim Says, in 9-10-2011 at 21:43:46 from    

he speaks the truth

Twana Says, in 9-10-2011 at 23:27:14 from    

with an ass hole like dana white..these UFC warriors are underpaid…

psyopus Says, in 9-11-2011 at 03:03:10 from    

hmm ya i dont see this as bad mouthing. but will say yes sometimes the truth hurts dana white is fukcing the fighters over and makin it like hes a cool cat cos hes paying them extra for fight of the night and s*** if u actualy paid them they wouldnt have to make ur self feel better about fugging them over … that being said i hate boxing… my question is did he really just say that the dude wins or he saying reguardles win or lose paq getting 20 million cos sounded like he just said whos winning already ..

Dave Says, in 9-11-2011 at 03:24:19 from    

some people are such idiots posting lol.
I’m a huge mma fan and have been active my self, and yest what he says its the truth not bad mouthing! Most mma fighters in ufc get paid very little money while Dana lorenzo make huge money i’m not saying they should get paid 20 mil since boxing is promoted more but just fair amount of what ufc makes from those fights. its shocking some of the amount I see. 4000-5000? thats just laughable at least for fighters in ufc level! its not like ufc isn’t making any money.

Sinist3r Says, in 9-11-2011 at 13:38:16 from    

@Ruddo293 you said boxers on the undercard don’t make s***, and said they make about 30k for an undercard fight. You know what undercard fighters in the UFC make? Like 5k if they are lucky.
@sterling “I’d say that mma has a more even pay scale than boxing”
MMA might have a more even pay scale, but that doesn’t make it right, that means the top fighters get f***** along with the undercard fighters, at least the undercard fighters have something to work for in Boxing.
To make it political:It’s kind of the same argument for socialism vs. capitalism, socialism wage scales are more even, everyone gets to live in poverty, vs. capitalism where everyone has a chance to work up to higher earnings.

pookiepoopants Says, in 9-11-2011 at 21:18:33 from    

He’s telling the truth this time BUT…..

He’s leaving out the 80% of struggling boxers that don’t make s*** because Boxing is so huge and the people he’s talking about represent the top elite few of the genre

So yeah UFC fighter should get paid more but boxers should be given more of a chance instead of just the very few who do get that 80% payout and when will Mayweather vs Pacqqio happen cause after that boxing is over lol

Monopoly is a Great thing Says, in 9-11-2011 at 23:02:47 from    

He keeps saying monopoly, monopoly… Yes, the UFC is trying to monopolize MMA, which you have to do to become a true sport, one organization for the best, like the NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA… all monopolies. Oh let’s be like borin-I mean boxing and have eighteen champions in the same division with 49 weight divisions spread out over 6 organizations…. overpriced borefest.

amf018200 Says, in 9-12-2011 at 01:14:14 from    

It’s difficult to compare the salaries of each sport mainly due to the time value of money.

Looking back at boxing’s early years, $1 isn’t the same as $1 today nor will it be in 50 years (assuming we’re not all dead).

Boxing is definitely in its twilight years, and this has nothing to do with the rise in mainstream popularity with MMA. The sport of boxing just doesn’t evolve. It’s too 1 dimensional for match ups to happen repeatedly for 100 years, and still garner interest from people who aren’t complete simpletons.

paddedummy Says, in 9-12-2011 at 03:39:10 from    

The majority of germans did not live together in poverty under national socialism, as matter of fact they never had such a high standard of living until they were attacked by the international banking conspiracy for being a model to be emulated by other nations. Every uneducated blue collar factory worker owned a volkswagen and had several months of paid vacation time at the beach every year. The only reason Bob Arum doesn’t pay fighters the way the UFC does is because he isn’t able to. There are cross promotions in boxing and champs of different orgs fight each other to unify the belts. Pac and Floyd not figting doesn’t have anything to do with there not being only one promoter, just pac being a juicer

csari0 Says, in 9-12-2011 at 17:18:21 from    

Boxing vs MMA reminds me of Snooker vs 8 ball pool.

One makes all the money, the other requires real skills. All the snookers players went and played 8 ball to get $, since that’s where the money was.

Maybe MMA fighters should go to box, even if they lose they’ll get a bigger purse, and will look good for bosing in a sales point… MMA fighters thinks he can beat boxer…blah blah blah.

I guess that’s why Diaz wanted to do boxing, win or lose you get real money, not just enough to pay the bills.

f_u Says, in 9-17-2011 at 18:51:28 from    

asbarran: Shouldnt you be worrying about your aids test results from getting pounded in your azzcrack when you cheated on your boyfriend in didnt use a rubber. please kill yourself loser. it would be the only thing useful youve ever accomplished.

Xhytype Says, in 9-20-2011 at 10:13:26 from    

SAD but TRUE…dang UFC , their fighters gotten beaten up more than those boxers but gets paid less…

ericsson Says, in 9-23-2011 at 18:10:13 from    

man !! this retarded Jew is one jealous, frustrated Matzo Ball

bcuz Says, in 10-22-2011 at 23:44:13 from    

hes not talking crap about mma just that ufc fighters get paid less then again maybe boxers get payed to much


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