HomeFighter Talk Audio Of Keith Kizer Talking About Alistair Overeem’s High Testosterone Levels Bruno April 5, 2012 Fighter Talk 27 Comments Audio Of Keith Kizer Talking About Alistair Overeem’s High Testosterone Levels. Tweet Pin It Nathan Diaz Receives His Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Black Belt From Cesar Gracie Jon Jones And His Ali Like Photo Shoot For UFC The Magazine 27 Comments zmayo April 5, 2012 How much roids does this guy need to do? He clearly roided in Pride, hes clearly big as s***. HES A BUM, way to ruin a great fight! Log in to Reply IIIIIIII April 5, 2012 this lazara guy is a horrible interviewer. he doesn’t even know what kind of questions to ask. jesus. Log in to Reply C outura April 5, 2012 He took super pump max supplement it raised his levels blame gnc his clean .stop accusing him have dignity Log in to Reply gphilos April 5, 2012 I don’t want them to just feed the saint just anybody but he needs to stay in fight shape and ready. He deserves the chance to start building his legacy if he can while he is relatively young. Let him defend his title phuck what a let down. So much of one I want Zuffa to let them fight and then 2saints can just level the slow strongman. I was rooting for him already but man I am now. Log in to Reply gphilos April 5, 2012 after the loss they can fire him if indeed he was taking artificial enhancements, which was very likely the case. Log in to Reply rockinout April 5, 2012 It sucks, I’ve kinda hated on Overeen for years but I’m sad to see him ruin an amazing UFC card. I wish they never signed him and left him in Japan. The guy just destroyed his legacy. He lies and cheats, sure he’s a great fighter, but just not within the rules. Screw him Log in to Reply gphilos April 6, 2012 ooops i guess JDS is defending his title against undetermined fighter. Frank, rematch or who?… John Jones!! hes ready ha Log in to Reply dave April 6, 2012 interviewer sucks badly! Log in to Reply swiss_mh April 6, 2012 After these news I thought all the people who beliefe Overeem is no roid or ghg user would shut up. But I was wrong @ C coutura. Log in to Reply YB3000 April 6, 2012 Roids are a heavy addictive drug. He was taking them all along his career. Its good for sport they catch him, cos i was tired of that naive stories about horse meat. Hope he will be back clean, but i doubt it’s possible in that stage of addiction. Log in to Reply jockstrap April 6, 2012 who cares…let them fight! Log in to Reply Coutura April 6, 2012 Can someone tell me where’s Overeem now. Maybe they injected the horses it has to be a mistake. Why will he destroy his image when his about to accomplish history winning belts in all organization . Why Bruno why . Log in to Reply Swordsmansmith April 6, 2012 When asked about Overoid’s future in the UFC dana white replied”it doesnt look good does it? Hes a liar and a cheater cut him. Hes pretty well done in mma since zugfa owns UFC and Strikeforce now. Good riddance to a fake. Log in to Reply MMA is taking over April 6, 2012 Haha, there’s a quick page turn glimpse at 3:23 and 7:28 Log in to Reply Genghis Khan April 6, 2012 Average man has a T/E ratio of 1:1 Professional athletes 3:1 – 5:1 UFC Juice heads – around 6:1 Cyborg — “I train harder than any fighter in MMA and do not need drugs to win in the cage, and I have proven this time and time again” couple of weeks after she (or he in this case) tests positive for Stanozolol. Overeem – T/E level of 14:1 Conclusion, you want to be the next UFC champ? F*** the skills, techniques, training, just pump your body with roids and become the next hulk. Log in to Reply Jim April 6, 2012 SOOO, let me see if I understand this? The average man walks around with 1:1 testosterone to estrogen. The athletic commission allows for fighters to have 6x that with a 6:1 test. Overeem had over 10:1. So basically what I’m seeing is: they know they’re (UFC fighters) all on roids, but Overeem is an ******* for taking TONS of the shit? Log in to Reply Jim April 6, 2012 ALSO, according to what Kizer said, if Overeem wants to take another test to prove innocents he can. If that second (B) test is clean it erases the previous (A) test? WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD. If I work for a warehouse and get hurt they drug test me. If my urine shows I’ve been smoking Cannabis I’m fired and cannot benefit from work-mans compensation. But if I try to hurt people for a living (fighting) I can say bullshit, take another test a MONTH LATER in which (staying away from illegal substances) I will be clean, and this erases my last test. You’d think they’d be held to a higher standard than a post-man, or bartender. Log in to Reply sammy April 6, 2012 The thing as long as it’s under 6:1 then it is humanly possible, very rare but possible, but 14:1 is just a silver back gorilla basically. Also, they are mostly if not all on hgh and test. Some guys just don’t cycle off it right and get caught. It’s like any other pro sport but I’m thinking Overeem takes more than others. Log in to Reply coutura April 6, 2012 Goodman said she found it “quite interesting” that Overeem’s test included an elevated T/E ratio but did not show a positive for an anabolic steroid. Log in to Reply VisionQuest April 6, 2012 It was verified as 14:1, and Sonnen was at 16:1….so that should put it in perspective. No one is remembering golden mouth Chael, and his same problem. Anti-Estrogens, can also cause this, because your body natural converts Test to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. So, when you keep Estrogen low, or blunt aromatase you actually trick the body into thinking it has low testosterone. Then your test levels will rise much higher than normal. So, brings me to question what they test for as far as pharmaceuticals like SERMS and Anti-Aromatase. The guy saying he took Superpump was actually close because Gaspari had a product called Novedex XT that causes the same issue in a lot of natural bodybuilding organziations and college sports. Log in to Reply mangymongoose April 6, 2012 VisionQuest, could you expand on some of this shit? I only know the basics. Log in to Reply mangymongoose April 6, 2012 Here’s a good article that explains it: http://mmajunkie.com/news/28128/medical-beat-what-are-te-ratios-any-why-do-cutoff-limits-vary-for-testosterone.mma Log in to Reply VisionQuest April 6, 2012 Good article. Explains it well. Basically, men’s brains look to estrogen to see how much testosterone we have. If you artificially lower estrogen you artificially increase the natural production of testosterone. So, even if they are not using steroids, they are subject to possible failure of drug tests. Log in to Reply murell April 7, 2012 Alistair Overoid got his Nick name Overoid for a reason,anyone who thinks that he is a clean fighter is a complete idiot. Log in to Reply Swordsmansmith April 7, 2012 No, the b test is from the same sample as the a test. You piss in a cup and they divide it into a and b. A b test has hardly ever yielded different results than the a test. The b sample is in a backup sample. Oveereem is screwed, his b sample would be the same which is probably why he hasnt requested it tested. Its not like he gets to take a new test and flush his system like he has in the past when he knew a test was coming. Thats why his first random and he gets nailed. Log in to Reply FedorFailsAgain April 8, 2012 So the people who have been asserting that OverRoids was on PEDS since he turned into the Hulk back @ Pride FC are vindicated and the people who thought OverRoids was a natural fighter look like the tards they always were and always will be. Log in to Reply Jim April 10, 2012 Thank you for clearing that up “Swordsmansmith;” makes more sense. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel reply You must be logged in to post a comment.