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Rick Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:05:16 from 65.78.142.66    

So how come this wasn’t a no contest or a DQ for Kevin Burns?

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Zescape Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:10:15 from 69.136.87.233    

Robbery. Kevin Burns sucks.

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420_submity Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:16:00 from 76.25.101.198    

LOL!!! Cant believe they didnt DQ that idiot. Nice game plan burns!!!!

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Vachousek Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:28:36 from 88.103.180.237    

oh shit…but I wanted to Burns win:)

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Phatty Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:31:03 from 12.215.187.111    

That’s bullshit. He was warned like 5 times and then poked the shit out of him. DQ him for that.

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couture Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:43:02 from 24.61.208.72    

something wrong with the ufc judges i think they getttin paid or they are racist ???????? the sport of boxing lost rating cause of bad calls referies gettin paid and judges jim lampley knows whatss up

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JACK Says, in 7-23-2008 at 15:57:13 from 71.250.232.76    

his hand looks closed to me i think it was a clean punch and Johnson just got caught with his eye open while a glove was movin into it

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theres fight in him yet Says, in 7-23-2008 at 16:29:11 from 64.146.118.66    

LMAO. OMgosh. That picture is HI-larious

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JEF Says, in 7-23-2008 at 16:30:35 from 99.236.249.147    

how are up and coming fighters like johnson supposed to advance with crap like that going on

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EBD Says, in 7-23-2008 at 16:39:39 from 72.45.103.195    

Burns is losing badly. He pokes Johnson in the eye. Burns is given the win.

It’s crap, really. Burns said that his intention was to strike Johnson with the heel of his hand, which is ridiculous when you watch the tape. Think about it: you put as much force into that kind of strike as you do in a punch, so why were his fingers sticking out straight forward? Would anyone fire out with punch force at an object with his fingers sticking straight ahead? You’d break your fingers 100 times out of 100.

I’ve seen this eye-poke business in the UFC, maybe a couple of times, and in each instance the commentators go out of their way to say “oh, it was obviously an accident, he’d never do that on purpose…”

*Right*.

If the UFC has integrity, they will look at the fight, see that it was a deliberate act — a foul, an illegal tactic — and change the decision and award the win to Johnson. It was Anthony Johnson’s fight all the way until Burns deliberately stuck his finger an inch-and-a-half into his eye socket.

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3appleshigh Says, in 7-23-2008 at 17:12:42 from 64.231.137.47    

The ref was not in a position to see this, although it was obvious, what had happened, the REF can only go by what he saw. Therefore it was a TKO, he stopped the fight because the fighter was hurt, not because of a poke. Does that suck YES. Burns stated he throws a palm stike because he broke that hand 3 times in 18 mo and can no longer punch, he had thrown it as a palm all fight long, with some previous pokes, but he would have to be a much MUCH better fighter to be that accurate to try to poke him in the eye and accomplish it, these guys have a tough enough time hitting thier opponent.

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mschuie Says, in 7-23-2008 at 17:14:37 from 24.185.229.127    

that was weak. burns you blow…

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Robert Says, in 7-23-2008 at 17:58:29 from 65.96.150.158    

Omg. So does this mean eye gouges and pokes are legal now cause that’s OBVIOUSLY what won dude the fight.

ROBBED.

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MMAGiantSilva Says, in 7-23-2008 at 18:16:31 from 71.76.239.218    

hey relax with all the hate.

Burns said he didnt do it on purpose take him for his word like johnson did.

Also they are going to rematch it burns agreed immediatly afterwards.

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obluso Says, in 7-23-2008 at 18:28:45 from 65.80.6.167    

that’s when the corner men need to start swinging.

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Jdawg Says, in 7-23-2008 at 18:30:08 from 206.174.11.80    

WTF, Why the hell did kevin burns get the win for jamming a finger in johnsons eye…. UFC needs to credit Johnson with the win

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Trucecity Says, in 7-23-2008 at 18:33:43 from 70.21.206.72    

i think they took a point off and somehow still won that fight.

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JOn D Says, in 7-23-2008 at 18:37:49 from 68.149.63.208    

what a joke… just lets u see how the ufc is run. not one outside ref or judge saw the 8 pokes to the eye.
not maz’s fault he was ring oppisite.

Burns is a looser, who sets up with a open palm finger poke to a left uppercut.

HE SHOULD BE FINED AND STRIPPED OF THE WIN.

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JOn D Says, in 7-23-2008 at 18:40:24 from 68.149.63.208    

MMAGiantSilva

Really learn yourself some MMA cause thats just beerleauge(eliteXC)shit

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I_ARE_BABOON Says, in 7-23-2008 at 20:58:21 from 96.232.3.35    

that was a good fight! kevin was winning the fight anyways, all you haters out there are losers!

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Karson With a K Says, in 7-23-2008 at 21:57:59 from 12.184.80.41    

How about some credit to Johnson for not crying about the decision. He even commented to the crowd that they should not boo Burns, as he was a good fighter. That made me a new fan of Johnson.

K~

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David Says, in 7-23-2008 at 22:26:45 from 99.254.49.151    

oh what the hell, thats just not right

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Phatty Says, in 7-23-2008 at 22:32:54 from 12.215.187.111    

Burns needs to either man the fuck up and throw closed hand punches or find a new career. If you have ever had your hands taped up and worn MMA style gloves you would know that your fingers are going to be bent and poke the guy in the eye. I had bruised/cut knuckles on my right hand one time and decided to use palm strike on the heavy bag. I knew it was a mistake because you can’t really stick ur fingers straight up. Steve Mazagati even told him to close his fingers on the jab. Change the decision to DQ.

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ShawnSEC Says, in 7-23-2008 at 23:14:22 from 70.174.11.118    

yea yea yea whatever! Brandon Vera stinks like my gym socks

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KJC Says, in 7-23-2008 at 23:27:13 from 70.70.139.89    

i was like wtf? Burns via tko? It should have obviously been a dq.

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bart Says, in 7-23-2008 at 23:49:02 from 71.188.140.155    

Johnson got robbed plan and simple. I hope Kevin Burns is done in the ufc. Let your hand heal if it breaks or go to a new doctor. Maybe a new doctor will have a better treatment for it.

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MMA KiD Says, in 7-23-2008 at 23:50:47 from 209.240.117.53    

how can u give him the fight for dq?

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Brendan Says, in 7-24-2008 at 00:21:31 from 146.171.254.66    

It would have been a DQ for burns had johnson not been such a baby and made out he got shot in the eye.If he had taken it like every other fighter I have seen and stayed standing and backed off complaining to the ref it probably would have been stopped and burns DQ’ed but he throws himself across the ring like he’s been hit with the right upper cut (that missed)and then lies facedown while the other fighter gives him another couple until the ref calls it finished as a TKO.The ref had no idea he had been poked until after the fight was stopped and can’t reverse his decision.

Most of you posters should learn a thing or two about MMA before posting your rubbish comments.

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OBIE Says, in 7-24-2008 at 00:24:38 from 75.105.128.37    

polk them in the eye and you win by tko

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KieranMac Says, in 7-24-2008 at 00:33:23 from 68.32.166.219    

Such a shitty fighter. Burns got his ass kicked around the ring and was trying for the eye poke during most of the 2nd round. Did you see him get Johnson’s left eye a couple of times and then immediately start throwing head kicks to the left side of Johnson’s skull? That bitch was cheating the entire fight.

If he ever fights in professional MMA again, his opponents should get 4x the money in extra hazard pay.

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JD Says, in 7-24-2008 at 01:44:46 from 74.15.84.33    

i was watching this fight and i remember him (burns) saying after the fight that he broke his hand a couple of times with a closed fist? WTF.. haha how are u expecting not to brake it throwing a open hand like that…!

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ColChaotic Says, in 7-24-2008 at 02:13:14 from 69.143.70.161    

OK he even said after the fight he cannot close that hand completely due to several times he has broken it in the past 16 months he just cant make a fist anymore. Secondally he apollogized alot and did not do it on purpose. And the ref problem is the same one they are having with the umpires in baseball. They see the view from a remote corner of the field and may every once in a while misjudge a ball. We must realize the refs do not have the same luxoury of seeing the best camera angle of the fight they only see what is directly in front of them. It just so happens he saw a uppercut that put johnson on the ground and looked like it KOed him. Everyone needs to stop flying off the handle like the world is going to explode every time something goes wrong or a bad call is made. The refs are human and cannot see everything, like we can.

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Rematch Says, in 7-24-2008 at 02:35:54 from 68.5.55.25    

No point was deducted and it was ruled a tko. The eye-poke / missed uppercut combo is the new finisher apparantly.

@Jack: his hand was no where near closed. He even said after the fight he couldn’t close it because it’s been broken so many times.

When I first saw it, it looked like the uppercut connected and that’s what put him down. Replays showed otherwise, but it’s easy to see how the ref got it wrong from his vantage point.

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chyeah Says, in 7-24-2008 at 02:43:45 from 69.136.49.75    

blasphemy

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Teach Says, in 7-24-2008 at 03:10:51 from 86.166.150.211    

if they are repealing decisions though they may want to look at Liddell Couture (although randy said he was ok), Liddell Ortiz, and Kongo Cro Cop. Clearly though in this case they shouldnt have awarded the win.

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dEMIURGE Says, in 7-24-2008 at 04:02:47 from 119.94.60.135    

ufc, to clear all allegations should review what transpired and give the win to johnson. accident or not, eye poking is a serious ground for disqualification. and burns did it for numbers of times. whew

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Lkotzias Says, in 7-24-2008 at 04:48:40 from 72.93.0.189    

one of the most stupid results I have ever seen on the ufc history, I believe this will be changed. The decision was from the ref. not the judges and whn it happened he couldn’t see it… so we are hoping for a change on Anthony’s record

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replacement Says, in 7-24-2008 at 05:08:30 from 77.103.154.90    

that’s Bullshit and very annoying!

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Allen T. Says, in 7-24-2008 at 09:16:45 from 98.16.129.85    

Ok. For all you morons claiming that the UFC judges caused this (because they are racist???), please take this opportunity to learn.

The ring ref. is in control of calling fights. Now, the ref. here saw some earlier eye pokes, but he did not see the last one. So, what he saw was a huge upper cut and Johnson dropping to the ground. He stopped the fight.

Now…under certain circumstances, he could have looked at replay and decided to DQ Burns, but not here. Why? Because the Nevada gaming commission does not allow the ring ref. to look at instant replay.

Therefore, the ring ref. had to make his decision based only on what he thought he saw. Johnson going down, no longer able to fight, after taking an uppercut (which didn’t connect…if you watch replay).

So everyone shut up and racism, and conspiracy theories, etc. If you need something to gripe about, Santa Claus is not real. Someone needs to break that crap wide open.

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smack Says, in 7-24-2008 at 09:17:51 from 58.173.164.147    

fuckin stupid call, hope it doesnt catch on

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Allen T. Says, in 7-24-2008 at 09:19:41 from 98.16.129.85    

Oh yeah. The UFC is not the party that awards wins and loses. All they do is set-up and promote the fights, and pay out the earnings.

Each state has it’s own gaming commission that independently makes those decisions. In this instance, the UFC can’t go back and reverse it, only the Nevada gaming commission can.

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Karo25 Says, in 7-24-2008 at 10:12:24 from 69.124.62.184    

I blame the ref. He should have disqualified Burns right away.

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fakename Says, in 7-24-2008 at 10:14:23 from 141.216.1.4    

I see this too much. Guys need to learn to throw out a quick jab or move. Throwing out an open hand with fingers extended will result in an eye gouge, minor or fight ending. This was not a palm strike. He did it several times, was warned several times, and each time his fingers were extended and leading the hand, which was casually pushed forward to protect himself and keep the fighter at a distance.

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James Says, in 7-24-2008 at 10:30:02 from 65.199.186.2    

I love the allegations of racism as soon as someone’s favorite fighter, who happens to be black, gets the shaft from a ref. I don’t know if any of you dipshits follow the UFC and other fight promotions but many a fighter have been given the shaft by the ref….. White, Black or Brazilian. How about the Kimbo Vs. Thompson fight? Virtually everyone agrees that was a BS call for Kimbo… So is Dan Mirgliotta a racist prick because of it??? or is he just a shitty ref? I tend to think the later.

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danada Says, in 7-24-2008 at 10:43:13 from 204.50.208.4    

Does anyone else notice that Anthony Johnson has the words “CONDOM DEPOT” written ON HIS ASS?!?!?!

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tom Says, in 7-24-2008 at 10:45:50 from 67.85.239.186    

there is already a rule against eye gouging. refs need to start deducting points if there are repeated pokes to the eye ESPECIALLY if they are determind to be intentional.
I would hope that burns is just a sloppy boxer laying his left out to distract to set up the right, but because of the repeated attempts one must think they eye poke was intentional.
good luck to johnson in the future.

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zamman Says, in 7-24-2008 at 11:16:32 from 68.75.43.50    

This is one of the worst decisions ever made. I can’t believe it was not ruled DQ. That ref needs to be fired. Who the hell gets warned so many times without a point deduction. That does not happen and that is why it leads me to believe that ref is racist. I mean wtf! How can the ref not deduct a point and NOT DQ! This is BS!

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KieranMac Says, in 7-24-2008 at 13:01:27 from 68.32.166.219    

“danada Says, in 7-24-2008 at 10:43:13 from 204.50.208.4 Does anyone else notice that Anthony Johnson has the words “CONDOM DEPOT” written ON HIS ASS?!?!?!”

Uhh, danada: welcome to MMA - there are a ton of fighters out there sponsored by the Condom Depot and who wear the logo on the backside of their trunks.

I used to think it was odd, but it’s so common now that eh, whatever.

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Dr. Says, in 7-24-2008 at 15:10:58 from 209.82.79.49    

Burns is a piece of shit. Yeah, like he’s going to say that he did it on purpose. Was it an accident that he was striking and reaching out with an open hand? NO. Let’s see me throw my open fist at someone’s face and not get a finger in there.

The fact that he CONTINUED to do it after being warned more than once shows that he meant to do it. I don’t care if your hand is broken. Doesn’t give you the opportunity to not follow the rules.

UFC and the AC shit the bed on that ruling. Hope it gets overturned if it hasn’t already.

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Mike Says, in 7-24-2008 at 20:13:31 from 24.188.107.168    

I don’t blame the ref, there was no way he could have seen the poke from that angle, and when Johnson went down he had to assume it was from the uppercut (that missed). Everybody should blame Burns, that was real low. He blatantly stuck his fingers out to Johnson face and it went in deep. He can have that stupid win, but I hope they review the tape and take his purse away! Oh by the way in my 10 years of boxing I’ve never seen a spear hand uppercut combo.

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Baren 8076 Says, in 7-24-2008 at 21:53:24 from 69.244.217.200    

I read all the comments above and I agree with a lot of you but you have to admit that if the commission does not allow the refs to look at replays at what actually happened than screw making a bet on a fight when the call is no good anyway. Obviously racism exists and there would be noway to determine if racism was a factor. Anyone that says otherwise is a very lucky person to not have ever had to whine about it. Back to the actual subject at hand, if referees are making blind decisions that effect the ultimate outcome of a fight than take the power away from the refs and leave it in the hands of the judges. Is that not why they are there in the first place. Or allow the refs the ability to look at a replay. I know this is not a hoarse race but could you imagine one without the ability to look at a replay.And by the way, if someone is grabbing there nuts it usually means they got kicked in the nuts. If someone is grabbing there eye it usually means they got poked in the eye.

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Baren 8076 Says, in 7-24-2008 at 22:43:44 from 69.244.217.200    

What is with the poll question, What is the youngest age you should allow your children to practice mma? It’s not an alcoholic beverage.
I did not know ware else to ask this question and the topic on this page is just a bunch of name calling. Are you guys from Tallahasse, FL because
it seems everyone from here is really hateful.Oh yea, very bad call for Johnson.

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CockneyRebel Says, in 7-25-2008 at 10:08:18 from 86.136.134.145    

results like this does the sport no favours maybe video technology should be brought in.

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PhilYHC Says, in 7-25-2008 at 10:41:10 from 86.138.37.144    

i watched the fight in the complete program, and he said he broke his left hand a whole bunch of times…regardless, i still think it was an accident.
a lot of fighters reach out with the jab hand to guage range etc, i do it myself when i spar.

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Xhytype Says, in 7-25-2008 at 11:08:53 from 125.60.241.70    

This was not a clear win to me and after 5 warnings…this should not have come to this! Ruling about the times given warnings shold only be down only to three calls or he’s everyone will be in the poking business here! And one more thing….REFS SHOULD BE DEMERITED FOR BAD CALLS which UFC refs are pretty known for…

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Steamer Bean Says, in 7-25-2008 at 23:38:10 from 164.58.150.70    

I was impressed with Burns ability to take a punch, other than that, he sucked. This clearly should have been a DQ. After all those warnings he throws the “Super Upperpoke”. Hey “Jack”, watch the replay closely, it was not a clean punch. He had his thumb hangin out and drug it through Johnsons eye. Not cool. Possible new nick names for Burns: “Pokemon”, “Pokenstein”, or how about “The Thumb Bandit”. Xhytpe i kind of agree with you, though calls are nothing more than a matter of opinion, if the majority agrees your opinions are idiotic, there should be some form of disciplinary action to hold refs accountable. Doesnt really matter, I’m under the opinion that roughly half of all professional fights now days are rigged any fuckin way.

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fingerlickin Says, in 7-26-2008 at 08:43:17 from 69.116.209.150    

finger ko never saw that before

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Cez Says, in 7-26-2008 at 14:54:54 from 141.154.230.252    

Yet another black man robbed of a fight. Fuckin racist judges or fuckin skin-head Dana White are preventing the black fighters from succeding. They already f’d Rampage’s life and now this?? This is b.s.

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jaelyn0308 Says, in 7-27-2008 at 00:30:09 from 12.217.130.149    

Johnson showed class by recognizing that it was a mistake. Other than all of you morons who just want to pass judgment and having nothing better to do than run your mouth and talk about someone you don’t even know. You seem to know all about the MMA then why don’t we see you fighting. For those of you who said Burns sucked. I would love to see you in a ring with him. With his arms tied around his back he would still kick the shit out of you. I applaude Johnson for his class and he would probably tell all of you to f**k off with your comments.

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hammer Says, in 7-27-2008 at 23:31:07 from 24.79.246.93    

what i think a lot of ppl are missing is that steve mazagatti put himself in the shitty position so as to not see the eye poke. follow me on this…

ref has warned burns a few times about the unintentional pokes on the jab. instead of positioning himself on the side where dubious actions have taken place, he goes to backside of burns where he has a lower chance of seeing another poke/jab. thats just not thinking on the job. to me its just ANOTHER in a lengthy list of steve mazagatti screw ups

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paddedummy Says, in 7-28-2008 at 17:53:46 from 66.130.150.232    

I think Burns assumed that since his opponent’s name was “Johnson” and that he had Condom Depot written on his ass that he wouldn’t mind being penetrated in any opening,lol… You see this and unintentional kicks to the sack alot in mma. Faber did it to Jens Pulver, Lawler did it in the first fight with Smith. It just shows how stupid kickboxing is, you aren’t protecting the most sensitive areas of your body and the way you kick/strike actually causes your oppoonent’s kicks to slide up into your balls and you to walk right into eye jabs even when he isn’t trying to foul you! Not to mention the unintentional clashes of heads. I find it really funny that any 130 pound average Joe throwing groin kicks and knife hands to the eyes can drop any heavyweight MMA champion instantly,lol. I wish there was an alternative to MMA where groin kicks and eye gouges were legal. With a cup and protective goggles there would actually be less injuries than in mma and it would be way more realistic. It would kind of look like Olympic fencing but empty handed. More like point sparring than the retarded, bloody slugfests and KO’s the fat drunks who buy tickets and PPV pay to see. The grappling would look really different also. Greco Roman and BJJ would be replaced with more standing joint locks and throws, you would see zero dirty boxing/thai clinches, jumping guard, dry humping or fagotty lay and pray. One thing is certain, the champions wouldn’t be the same guys.


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