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Rhino Says, in 8-23-2008 at 13:33:08 from 68.144.228.181    

The only thing more embarrassing than this is the Kazakhstan guy jumping around the ring waving his flag after. You didn’t win s*** buddy.

Taekwondo should be removed from the olympics, what a joke.

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mmapr0 Says, in 8-23-2008 at 13:34:39 from 24.182.4.47    

what a p****, he needs to work on his power in those high kicks, the ref just took that s*** and said is that all you got??

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SuN Says, in 8-23-2008 at 13:43:18 from 66.74.143.96    

That Kazak is a twat… look at him running around like he just dusted Bolt hopping on one leg.

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Rick Says, in 8-23-2008 at 13:44:33 from 65.78.142.66    

See, you can’t even knock out a fat judge when you learn how to kick for scoring and not for knockouts.

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WsW Says, in 8-23-2008 at 14:30:58 from 74.170.41.195    

You are going to see Castro soon in the news saying,this is a terrorism act by the Cuban Mafia in Miami and the CIA.

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RoyalBeatz07 Says, in 8-23-2008 at 14:34:57 from 208.100.154.236    

How would you feel if you made it all the way to the olympics and that s*** happened to you? That’s a high strees environment for these athletes. Not to say what he did wasright, but he just snapped. All that hard work over from a miscommunication. Too bad it will be his last time. And the fruit prancing around with his flag, what a f**. No offence to gay people, you’re still men, so take a joke.

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Penn_fan Says, in 8-23-2008 at 14:40:41 from 12.206.44.138    

haha…classic…Dude should take sum kickboxing!

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John MMA Says, in 8-23-2008 at 14:45:32 from 70.231.158.182    

It’s time Taekwondo goes away as a sport. It was almost removed from this year’s Olympics, but it just barely survived an inclusion vote.

With all the reversed decisions, the judging f*** ups, this dude may have well kicked Taekwondo out of the Olympics.

Good riddance, it is the most useless art on this planet. The commentator said it “spiritual.” There is nothing more contradictory — be spiritual and then violence? Clearly, this guy was trained to kick the referee in the face. It’s useless. Use it in street fights, don’t waste time of people watching Olympics.

If a violent sport wants to be included, include MMA. Be straight up.

They need to include

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Joshua Says, in 8-23-2008 at 14:52:19 from 68.117.91.232    

All I can say is, poor Ara Abrahamian… he can’t even win the gold medal for being the biggest jack@$$ at these Games. He’ll have to settle for a silver medal in that “event”, which he’d probably just throw away anyway.

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John Says, in 8-23-2008 at 14:55:58 from 193.188.105.220    

he should have damaged the f****** face of the referee

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alfredunhill Says, in 8-23-2008 at 15:33:13 from 68.215.90.12    

Castro is going to bend that guy over and have people lined up taking turns kicking that guy in the ass for embarrassing Cuba…

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bigmango Says, in 8-23-2008 at 15:33:18 from 76.226.180.246    

Tae Kwan Do is too commercialized. Tae Kwon do has forgotten its roots and true fighting system of honor. All you see in town are those
schools charging $50.00 or more a month.
I do not respect that Martial art anymore, it is a system of greed and disrespect. TKD should be banned from the olympics.
Anyway, do you see any TKD practioners winning in MMA?? NO. TKD is all show!

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jabbyjap Says, in 8-23-2008 at 15:33:39 from 76.183.139.94    

on a tangent note, just out of curiosity i went to the international edition of granma (largest cuban news paper) to see if it was covered and it is not…so far. they did have on article on “cuba clobbers us” in baseball but strangely nothing on the most wretched act in the olympics since the nancy kerrigan debacle

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reddhelium Says, in 8-23-2008 at 15:40:53 from 71.59.76.101    

what a dick. ban for life.

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K3ViN Says, in 8-23-2008 at 15:46:02 from 71.167.36.133    

I can’t believe people are defending that doush… He couldn’t even control himself. If you wanna get pissed off and scream and yell no body cares but when you are an olympic level fighter you don’t kick someone in the head. What a chump, I’m happy he didn’t win, though it would have been awesome if the ref caught it and swept the leg.

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Mute Says, in 8-23-2008 at 15:49:40 from 74.129.211.64    

Foot looks fine to me. :)

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Rob Says, in 8-23-2008 at 16:13:52 from 99.230.43.1    

too many people are hating on tkd. it’s an awesome sport and deserves to be in the Olympics like any other. those of you putting it down are simply uneducated bums.

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Toxic_Society Says, in 8-23-2008 at 16:58:43 from 72.213.142.29    

Tkd is nothing compared to mma. For an olympic sport, sure, it’s kinda cool. But if mma were ever brought to the olympics, nobody would care for tkd at all.

Oh, and that Cuban is a dick weed.

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gummo-815 Says, in 8-23-2008 at 17:19:03 from 75.21.126.177    

banned for life . . . arrested for assault . . thrown in cuban prison . . .

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MMA KiD Says, in 8-23-2008 at 17:19:54 from 216.183.134.150    

sorry toxic but ufc is keeping mma form beening at the games there not allow people to use there fighters to start world rankings witch are needed to have a sport in the games. there are soo many mma companys with fighters saying there the best ect ect till there is a ranking system that is agreed on by alest 70 – 80% of the mma community. it dosn’t realy have shot in the games in the near furture but here hoping

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Lkotzias Says, in 8-23-2008 at 17:41:18 from 76.24.227.9    

If he foot wasn’t good to keep fighting, how come he kicked the ref.? It’s easy to kick an older guy that prob. wouldn’t hit him back…
what a LOSER!
Tae kwon do is ok for the olympic games, MMA would be too much for some people.. They should include jiu jitsu at least.

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greatking Says, in 8-23-2008 at 17:56:38 from 71.235.88.46    

So the guy kicked the referee in the face, which was a bad call on his part, but I can see his frustrations. You train for at least four years to get to the games and then you’re disqualified over stupidity. Since when does ref not call the shots in the ring, since when does the referee not ask if the competitor can continue or not, when his recuperation time is up? Damn Olympic bull.

Now for everyone comparing MMA to TKD, what is wrong with you people? TKD is Martial Art, MMA encompasses all Martial Arts, and thus the word, Mix Martial Arts, came to be.

Yosh!!

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Rob Says, in 8-23-2008 at 18:32:57 from 99.230.43.1    

typical ignorance

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:pingaloca Says, in 8-23-2008 at 19:03:32 from 68.161.16.225    

That’s right kick that stink in the face, make him smell that banana boat funk. He should’ve beat the crap out that ref., to really make that getting banned for life worth it.

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Muay Thai #1 Says, in 8-23-2008 at 19:57:31 from 74.141.0.95    

Mute is totally right. He cant continue to fight but he has the strength to kick the ref in the face….awesome. Yeah, That Kazak guy needs to calm down. Winning a medal is awesome but like that…I wouldnt want to win that way.

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HanSolo Says, in 8-23-2008 at 20:12:37 from 71.100.215.111    

Man. Take Ones Do is such a joke. Maybe Hakido is decent,but,really,it is an unrealistic “art”. They teach these people a false sense of security, and then some street fighter with no martial training destroys them. Drop them from the Olympics. Please. The joke is over and the lie is revealed.

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viking Says, in 8-23-2008 at 20:29:17 from 70.177.8.31    

What
a piece
of s***.

Anyone trying to make excuses for that punk should go suck his dick and rub his toe.

Absolutely disgusting.

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MMA Says, in 8-23-2008 at 20:45:44 from 75.71.198.46    

TaeKwonDo is such a joke. Any 12 year old in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu can beat those fools.

They need to remove it from the olympics asap, no one watches it anyway. Although probably too violent, MMA would be a great sport for the olympics.

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huh Says, in 8-23-2008 at 21:35:58 from 68.39.121.189    

he doesnt speak english thats not fair

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trallador Says, in 8-23-2008 at 22:25:11 from 90.163.22.224    

MMA in Olympic games? lol.

Any full contact sport cant (strike sport) participate coz any profesional fighter put his integrity for 6 times in 2 weeks.

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MMA KiD Says, in 8-23-2008 at 22:34:49 from 216.183.134.123    

MMA wont be in the games for a long long time seening how UFC along with others do wanna give up there fighters to allow world rankings. and with out a world ranking system there is no way to sort out what fighters should get in the games ect.

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MMA KiD Says, in 8-23-2008 at 22:36:19 from 216.183.134.123    

and on a sidenote i forgot to say in my post above stop ripping on Taekwondo calling it p**** sport ect. who cares if you don’t like it? who cares what type of fighting is STRONG or better they all take years of trainning and heart to master soo stop the gay internet flaming <3

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Outro Paulo Says, in 8-23-2008 at 22:41:54 from 189.61.21.142    

Well, the only thing I can say about thisis that this judge is very lucky… if this was a Cro Cop kick, he would be hospitalizes right now.

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used2wrestle Says, in 8-23-2008 at 23:12:34 from 70.48.129.122    

this sport is horrible to watch, the worst is the girls, its clear there is absolutely no power at all to their strikes. For anyone that watches mma, its disgusting.

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rawr Says, in 8-23-2008 at 23:14:57 from 76.247.244.127    

Lol how could he not knock out the ref? Thought he was a TKD professional. Just punch the dude if you wanted to hurt him… AND THE OTHER GUY WAS HOPPING LIKE A BUNNY! LOL! He didn’t even outscore the other guy.

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030988 Says, in 8-23-2008 at 23:29:33 from 72.177.202.221    

TKD is awsome, its not in MMA cause its defense… I dont practice it, but i have friends that do, and i respect it… too many haters on this site, they need to take the comment section off, of have it monitored… alot of yalls posts just piss me off lol, ignorant wannabes and poser ammature… I love the input from informed people and calmly spoken opinions.

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jackt Says, in 8-23-2008 at 23:51:13 from 98.221.163.168    

Wow – never realized how boring that sport was. Has to be something people do so they can say they do martial arts yet know that they won’t get hurt.
The guy is a coward. I can’t believe he wasn’t arrested on the spot or taken down by security. Had that been a spectator they would have been pinned to the ground and handcuffed.

Have to agree with an earlier post – not much of a kick to the head if the ref is still standing. s***, had that been Rampage, the ref would have hit the great wall and gone right through it to Mongolia.

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Niv Says, in 8-23-2008 at 23:55:55 from 64.59.144.21    

This guy should be banned for life. What he did is not acceptable in any organized sport.

If the rules are what it appears to be, the ref did his job and that’s unfortunate for the Cuban. As for the other fighter jumping around for being awarded the medal, what is wrong with that? He worked for years on achieving the same goal, it may not be an ideal way to win, but win he did. Congratulations to him as a gold medal in the Olympics is something that is a dream for most people.

Now as for mma being an Olympic sport, why not? They can bring it back under the name Pankration as the ancient Greeks did have Pankration as an Olympic sport way back around 680 B.C. It’s the original mma why not call it that and come up with standardized rules for all sanctioned organizations to follow. I think it would be great but I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.

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sugartrader Says, in 8-24-2008 at 00:29:11 from 99.204.236.104    

From what I have seen the cubans have no honor. A low-life like matos shouldn’t even be invited to compete in the sport. My daughter can take him in a match.

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jenzing Says, in 8-24-2008 at 00:33:39 from 24.71.223.152    

Most of your comments are very immature and naive.

You should be looking at the person who did the act and not the sport. The person who did the kicking was in the wrong, not the sport. If it were the sport we would be getting rid of hockey, football, basketball, etc….

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capital L Says, in 8-24-2008 at 01:08:08 from 66.57.228.49    

“Now as for mma being an Olympic sport, why not?”

Because the IOC is very uncomfortable with combat sports. Boxing and TKD are done with headgear, the Judo rules are crafted almost exclusively for throws, and wrestling is of course very regimented. It is really incredibly unlikely that we will ever see MMA in the Olympics, and even if it is it will probably be in a format that will not please the sort of people deriding point-based combat competition.

To restate that for absolute clarity: all the forms of combat sport represented in the Olympics utilize explicitly point-based rule sets. Therefore, unless you can devise a form of point-based MMA that you’d even really want to watch, don’t expect to see it approved by the IOC.

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anon Says, in 8-24-2008 at 01:20:54 from 64.131.254.152    

wow you guys need to chill with the tkd hate. i dont find the event entertaining either, but i dont see how you can even begin to make comparisons with mma. traditional martial arts are about improving yourself, not beating the s*** out of people for the sake of it. that in itself, has its own entertainment value of course, and thats what mma is for. to the ignoramus who said watching the women is awful, you pretty much dont understand martial arts at all i guess? its not a street fight, theyre not -trying- to hurt each other. in any traditional martial art, trying to hurt your opponent means youre a dick who has no place practicing the art in question.

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Rick Says, in 8-24-2008 at 01:57:53 from 65.78.142.66    

With the way the IOC has watered down their version of boxing I’d hate to see what they do with mma.

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R.KEEGAN Says, in 8-24-2008 at 02:11:31 from 76.91.40.233    

That guy deserves to be band from competition for life.
Rules are rules and he knew the rules and his coach knew the rules.Its is coach’s fault and his fault.
Also whats with all the crap i read about its not fair?You must not have ever compete in ant sports because rules are set up before hand and everyone knows this going into the contest.He made his country look like crap.
He is a pile of crap and i hope the Communist rulers in Cuba teach him a lesson.
I’m sick of people acting like life is so unfair,a bunch of p****’s that will get zero in life.

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JJCAR Says, in 8-24-2008 at 02:20:41 from 142.59.91.23    

for all those who think tkd fighters have no power actually take a kick from them… mma / kick boxers have nothing on them when it comes to kicking power and speed also, they telegraph when they are going to kick anyways so it’s easy to step away and not get hit… tkd fighters train for speed and quick reflxes

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Great White Says, in 8-24-2008 at 02:33:51 from 66.183.107.171    

What an idiot – I agree this guy should be banned for life – and his coach should be held some what accountable too.

Rules are rules and we may not like them but there the first thing you should know off by heart before you even think about competing in any event, especially one as notorious as the Olympics.

To take your anger out on the referee is insane as he’s just doing his job.

I really think his coach should have taken control of the situation but instead he clearly made it worse.

Hey look on the bright side at least out of all this we got a some what comical moment at the end, he was having some kind of retarded victory spazam.

MMA should totally be an Olympic sport without a doubt – it would be an awesome event – but to get it there all the fat cats have to line there pockets first.

:)

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Great White Says, in 8-24-2008 at 02:37:37 from 66.183.107.171    

Ooops I meant to say that guy who won was having some kind of retarded victory spazam.

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Adam Says, in 8-24-2008 at 02:53:40 from 63.214.184.6    

Is tae kwan do a sport or a martial art?i feel that if a martial art is made into a sport,that it should maintain its practicality as a means of self defense.like in jiu jitsu you can render your opponent defensless in competition.in boxing,kickboxing,and to the more complete extent,mma,a means of self defense is put into practice within a competition.now judo is based upon throwing your opponent,which has practical applications to self defense.now tae kwan do however is useless as a means of self defense.throw a bunch of weak kicks at a strong attacker and you will get killed.to the people who are mad that we are bashing tae kwan do,at least acknowledge that the reason we have a problem with it is that it blurs martial arts with sports to such a degree that there is no practical means of self defense within the sport.and deep down,anybody who loves martial arts considers this the same as whoring out their mother.taking something so honorable and turning it into a joke. Replace tae kwan do with jiu jitsu

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ares Says, in 8-24-2008 at 03:00:20 from 64.59.144.21    

1. the cuban fighter did not start teakwondo last week, he’s been doing it competitively for years, which leads to…
2. the cuban (and his coach) knew that they had 1 minute to get up and fight, after that you are disqualified and lose the fight.
3. 1 minute in spanish= 1 minute in english and the clock was running down on the board, don’t use language as an excuse
4. your dick won’t get any bigger by screaming how much stronger, tougher, meaner mma fighters are
5. in any competition you prove your worth (how much of a man you are) by respecting your opponents and the rules, otherwise…
6. you fight like an animal and against an animal you should fight (let’s see someone bite an ear off a mountain gorilla..)

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Bo Says, in 8-24-2008 at 03:01:08 from 76.29.166.162    

tkd is useless, remove this shiet from the omlympic plz!!!! bring in muay thai or mma instead of this bullshiet.

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HI Says, in 8-24-2008 at 03:45:59 from 72.235.242.158    

1) Anyone making excusses for that cuban fighter is an idiot. 10 sec. warning was called, that should have bee enough for him to get ready and continue if he could. Thats the rules and thats why he was DQed.

2) There are alot of other events that should be removed from the Olympics other than TKD.

table tennis (ping pong) & POWER WALKING are a couple of them.

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Red X Says, in 8-24-2008 at 04:23:35 from 217.44.113.88    

I agree with most people saying that TKD should be dropped from the Olympics.

Competition TKD has been completely neutered and is probably one of the most boring events in the world to watch.
I feel that MMA should be kept out of the Olympics though. If MMA were to be included I can see it going in a similar direction.
Commissioners would swarm on it to make it safe and family friendly.
In the end it wouldn’t be the MMA that we all know and love anymore. It would be this strange new MMA-Lite.

As far as submission grappling goes though FILA in association with BWA are currently lobbying the IOC to consider it for 2012 in London.

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ness Says, in 8-24-2008 at 06:15:29 from 69.231.231.106    

that wasn’t a real win for Kazakhstan’s fighter. they should take out this lame sport out, and put MMA in.

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Mag Says, in 8-24-2008 at 06:25:57 from 210.49.197.149    

The only thing worse than that low act has been seven’s coverage of the olympics!

Seriously p**** act though. TKD should be replaced by ADCC style submission grappling IMO.

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tim Says, in 8-24-2008 at 06:35:44 from 59.100.39.57    

we’re all glad that guy did’nt join in shooting competition..

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The man Says, in 8-24-2008 at 07:43:50 from 98.221.233.141    

Kick the ref?????????????????

Ban him 4 life what an A-hole

The guys a ref….Ban this animal 4 life.

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BakaSurvivor Says, in 8-24-2008 at 09:47:24 from 99.232.8.150    

Best TKD fight ever

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worddd Says, in 8-24-2008 at 11:27:14 from 67.193.182.50    

taekwondo is f***** s*** anyway….who cares.

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Kevin Says, in 8-24-2008 at 11:53:56 from 24.195.186.13    

um, not to defend it because i did it before i started jujitsu, kempo, and judo…but if you go on youtube and put in tae kwon do knockouts…you’ll see some of the craziest kick knockouts that UFC hasn’t even had yet. seriously, check it out before you drop tae kwon do as a p**** discipline, all grace, etc…it’s the first video that comes up and it’s a compilation that has sum 41 music, which is how you’ll know it’s the right one.

anyways, i do hate tae kwon do because it’s over priced and the practitioners don’t teach as they should. plus anyone can get into it and stay in no matter how much they suck or don’t show effort to push themselves.

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John Says, in 8-24-2008 at 12:15:14 from 193.188.105.200    

The only thing I am missing is a statement of Mr. Rogge, the leading piece of s*** which was around in Beijing for the last couple of weeks

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islandguy666 Says, in 8-24-2008 at 12:18:06 from 76.69.231.212    

Not much of a kick really. Hope he’s got some ice on that toe. He won’t be competing in any more tae quan do any time soon but maybe he can fight Kimbo now that he’s officially a freak.

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jakelo Says, in 8-24-2008 at 12:43:48 from 82.121.249.83    

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!! (breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHA !!!

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thebman Says, in 8-24-2008 at 13:40:31 from 99.253.222.252    

what pissed me off the most is when that f***** kazak guy starts hoping around thinking he won. Not only did he not win, but he also showed a huge amount of disrespect. He didn’t deserve s***. f*****’ homo. You didn’t win on your own you won by f***** default.

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Carl Says, in 8-24-2008 at 13:41:13 from 86.29.28.197    

Ridiculous, against the tenets of Tae Kwon Do and just bad sportsmanship in general. Didn’t even look like a very good kick, and most referees are black belts themselves anyway, so that could have been a lot worse for the cuban if there was any retaliation.

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casy Says, in 8-24-2008 at 15:30:58 from 66.233.94.156    

when the guy announced 10 sec left there was really only 3-4 seconds on the clock , so i think the match should have continued?

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Rob Says, in 8-24-2008 at 15:34:37 from 99.230.43.1    

Taekwondo as a sport is more based of speed and agility than power, in order to get points, hence winning the match, but with this training you can have very powerful kicks, and a lot of you people don’t seem to realize that. i have a friend who is a second degree black belt and hes fast as s***, but when he wants to kick hard he can take down just about anyone. So f****** read a book and learn before you spread your bullshit.

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jakelo Says, in 8-24-2008 at 17:09:09 from 82.121.249.83    

TKD kick cant even KO a fat ref, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!

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Joel Says, in 8-24-2008 at 18:00:59 from 76.68.107.176    

Yeah, what a douche.

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Kevin Says, in 8-24-2008 at 18:39:15 from 24.195.186.13    

seems all of the tae kwon do hates who don’t have a real reason to hate it, unlike myself, didn’t even take the time to look up what i said on youtube, but have no problem continuing to talk out their asses here. amusing.

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Great White Says, in 8-24-2008 at 19:19:27 from 66.183.107.171    

World Taekwondo Federation Also know as
(What The F***):D :D :D

“It was an insult to the Olympic vision, to the spirit of taekwondo and for me, an insult to MANKIND,” said Jin Suk Yang, general secretary of (WTF)

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Hayo Says, in 8-24-2008 at 19:40:26 from 24.141.160.164    

For those trying to defend TKD as practical for self defense, spare me.

You could take the best TKD fighter on the planet and pit him vs someone with 1 year MMA training, the MMA fighter wins 10/10 matches.

My point is it would take 20+ years to reach the top of the TKD world only to be beat by someone with 1 year MMA training.

Doesn’t seem to be very practical does it….

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KOB Says, in 8-24-2008 at 20:19:43 from 71.224.178.4    

Ban him for life and have arrested for assault.

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Farmma Says, in 8-24-2008 at 20:40:55 from 202.46.138.127    

I thought the style wars argument was dead and buried years ago. There’s no need to rehash all that bullshit. It’s mindless and a waste of time.
Of course an mma fighter will beat a TKD fighter in an mma scenario but reverse the situation and TKD fighter wins. Just get over it. Unfortunately we will never see mma as an olympic sport. Its just never going to happen.

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Farmma Says, in 8-24-2008 at 20:42:29 from 202.46.138.127    

Allthough I do agree that TKD is an unrealistic style. Fighting with your hands down by your waist is a very bad idea.

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Joshua Says, in 8-24-2008 at 21:14:20 from 69.141.108.23    

It seriously was a disgrace on his part, however for the people who say its an unrealistic sport..blah blah blah you really should get up from the computer and actually try it before you come to conclusions about it. Your a disgrace.

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mmafighter32 Says, in 8-24-2008 at 22:11:16 from 71.207.50.115    

i have a black belt fourth degree in tkd…i am training in bjj right now at a gracie school. I believe that tkd has taught me my stand up game, and i have used in real life when there was an attempted mugging. I was followed when i took out money from an atm when someone tried to sucker punch me from the back..i broke his nose and swept him. Not practical? If you knew the rules of TKD tourneys, it is a technical sport which involves speed, accuracy, and knowledge. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO INCLUDE POWER. i respect all martial art forms and continue to study. Every one of them has there flaws. MMA cant be used against multiple advesaries and where is the weapons training? ALL HAVE FLAWS, SO WHY NOT STUDY THEM ALL AND TRY TO INCORPORATE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.

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x2468 Says, in 8-24-2008 at 22:33:48 from 65.10.22.51    

why is tkd in the olympics? shouldn’t something more inclusive like kickboxing be in instead, that way TKD, Kyokushin, and various karate forms, as well as muay thai and even other stand up forms like western boxing, kung fu or savat could all be included.

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x2468 Says, in 8-24-2008 at 22:34:34 from 65.10.22.51    

they couldn’t wear anymore padding could they….

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Booya Says, in 8-24-2008 at 22:44:15 from 99.238.210.178    

Anyone who likes TaeKwonDo should do a google search of “TaeKwonDo vs. (any other martial art)” you will get to enjoy a bunch of TKD pansies getting their asses handed to them. TKD is as useless as that acrobatic karate crap where they do all the fancy twirly weapons work and artsy fartsy kata. Why waste goood time of your life studying a completely benign martial art like TKD? If you want to go to the olympics, at least get into wrestling or Judo. TKD… What a waste of time.

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disco Says, in 8-24-2008 at 23:03:20 from 128.250.211.55    

Disgraceful, and if you can’t hurt an old ref who isn’t defending himself with a headkick, you learn how effective your martial art is.

The Olympics needs a total review of its Martial Arts program. Remove Boxing, TKD, GC Wrestling, Freestyle Wrestling and Judo. (Maybe keep Judo I’m not sure).

There should be:

- MMA, under its original name during the ancient Greek Olypics of Prankration.
- Muay Thai Kickboxing, which is the best striking system
- Submission Wrestling (No Gi) as the best wrestling system

That way you have the best striking, the best grappling, and the purest combat sport. Maybe there is still a place for Gi-based throws of Judo – maybe.

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Orkney Says, in 8-24-2008 at 23:09:34 from 125.163.85.50    

Better to use those kick on the opponent’s head during the match rather than kicking the referee. He has proved that he still could kick

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DynamiteK Says, in 8-24-2008 at 23:50:56 from 76.225.26.242    

WTF did the ref do wrong? The whole frickin stadium could see the clock ticking down as his time ran out. The dumbass fighter and his corner should know the rules and procedures of the sport that they made the Olympics in

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Keenanator Says, in 8-25-2008 at 01:12:14 from 65.244.38.253    

It is the attempt to remove subjective expertise from the judging process that has killed boxing and TKD as Olympic sports.

The 10 point scoring system has survived in real boxing (and adopted by UFC and others in MMA world) because – with experienced judges that are properly scrutined – it works better than anything else.

There are TKD fighters that can in fact pack quite a wallop with their kicks (and punches, which don’t seem to exist in the olympics) but as has happened with boxing, they don’t can’t take the risk of attempting power shots because it opens them up to pitty-patty counter punches and kicks. Two little pitty patty punches count for twice as many points as one bone-crunching punch (or kick) with the new ridiculous scoring system.

I would love to see UFC-style MMA in the Olympics. The athletes tend to have tremendous integrity – UFC doesn’t have the incredible history traditions of TKD which is all about respect and reverance for one’s opponent, and yet you won’t see a UFC fighter kicking a ref in the head.

I learned TKD as a kid (MMA wasn’t something known or talked about at the time) and it was all about the respect – any disrespect and you were out of there – money back and we don’t want to see you.

This year’s olympic TKD was a pretty sad spectacle, I watched one fight with a Canadian woman and on my scorecard she won the fight about 25-17 but it ended up 0-0 including an overtime round!!!! RIDICULOUS!!!!

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R3X Says, in 8-25-2008 at 01:48:20 from 69.224.44.111    

Does anyone have ears here? The ref clearly announces “Ten Seconds” and two seconds later the times up. There should have been 7-8 seconds left after the warning. A ban from the olympics don’t matter much when your hitting 40. Having them erase all his previous records from the history books probably does.

But totally, replace Tawekwondull with MMA for 2012 man!

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August_love Says, in 8-25-2008 at 02:41:22 from 24.83.205.120    

this guy should control his anger. Of course he should KNOW the rules b4 fighting. Yea./…i kinda agree the other guy shouldn’t be jumping at the ring like he just beat him already. He should control his anger….if i don’t fully understand the rules and all of a sudden i lost…i would of done the same. Imagine been trained for 20 years, u put ur life and soul in it and in the end u got nothing….

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annA Says, in 8-25-2008 at 05:32:18 from 203.87.181.98    

hey guys! chill..i know we have our own opinions about TKD but still don’t hate it too much..because i do taekwondo too..and i’m just 13..i have used it against bullies at our school..one of fractured his arm..so it proves that you can still use it in real life..you just need to learn how..it’s up to you..DON’T JUDGE IT TILL YOU TRY IT!! cause it works for me..even in real life!

and this cuban guy..he’s a sore loser..blame him not taekwondo!

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capital L Says, in 8-25-2008 at 07:19:53 from 69.134.102.18    

“The Olympics needs a total review of its Martial Arts program. Remove Boxing, TKD, GC Wrestling, Freestyle Wrestling and Judo. (Maybe keep Judo I’m not sure).

There should be:

- MMA, under its original name during the ancient Greek Olypics of Prankration.
- Muay Thai Kickboxing, which is the best striking system
- Submission Wrestling (No Gi) as the best wrestling system.”

Do you really think the IOC is going to replace what they have–point-based punching, point-based kicking, point-based throwing, and point-based grappling–with MMA, Muai Thai, and Submission Grappling? Don’t get me wrong I think that would be more interesting to watch IN THEORY, but there are several important factors standing in the way:
1) The IOC is quite uncomfortable with combat sports, hence the head-gear, body padding, and restrictive rule sets.
2) The IOC “follows” sports– it doesn’t “lead.” Your scheme does not have the sheer number of potential competitors as the overall system today does.

Also, Greek Pankration allowed small joint manipulation, so it’d probably be best to stick to the Mixed Martial Arts moniker.

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chumpman Says, in 8-25-2008 at 13:25:56 from 202.188.85.209    

Judo is good. Keep judo. But Taekwondo…until the ruling controversy is over and proved this sport is an able sport for the olympic. Bad ruling = angry players.

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tkdsucks Says, in 8-25-2008 at 13:39:48 from 71.191.195.173    

That kazakh guys a dipshit, raisin his hands like he just beat the s*** out of the other guy. win by DQ is embarrassing. TKD sucks anyway, no punches to the head, no kicks to the legs, what a joke. can’t believe there are ppl that think TKD can win a fight.

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MMA GIANT SILVA Says, in 8-25-2008 at 15:18:42 from 70.109.26.165    

Im not surprised Cuba generally cheats the Olympics in every sport almost.

They should do a rigorous examination of all Cuban Olympians which goes well beyond the investigations of regular Olympic athletes.

Cuban athletes should be examined like they are examining the age of the Chinese girl.

They still use professionals in boxing, baseball, and any sport in which they could foresee somehow winning.

This guy embodies what a Cuban Athlete is. He/ She is a snake working professionally for Cuba.

I hope they eliminate the sport and eliminate Cuban athletes for the next games for excessive cheating

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Demon Says, in 8-25-2008 at 16:18:03 from 67.180.210.249    

The ref was lucky it was a TKD kick not a real kick lol

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Mike Says, in 8-25-2008 at 22:46:39 from 76.84.80.98    

What a cheese dic, ban for life, throw him in a cuban jail and have him be on the recieving end of a train.

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no_joe Says, in 8-25-2008 at 22:51:36 from 99.232.127.251    

The Jpg for this video is classic, lol…..

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9845wer Says, in 8-25-2008 at 23:29:01 from 190.160.95.174    

no se la puso bien al juez y queria ganar..jaja

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arnold Says, in 8-26-2008 at 04:25:01 from 189.148.179.159    

the referee should kick back and not just stand there like a coward actually the cuban couch should help matos to punch the other referees

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GroundFighter Says, in 8-26-2008 at 12:24:32 from 68.96.250.152    

Tae Kwon Do is a sport LOL what a cheap shot from a coward.

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kp Says, in 8-26-2008 at 14:17:11 from 70.181.152.5    

Both the coach and the player are too dumb to tell time. He should have kicked the clock and himself not the ref.

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N Says, in 8-26-2008 at 16:12:00 from 81.234.60.18    

Remember this is WTF which isn’t the oridginal TKD.
ITF is the oridginal, where hands also are used.
And the referee was a tkd trainer some yeras back, he actually began to dodge the kick when it came, he said that in an interview.
And for those of you how thinks tkd kicks are weak, it has been proven to be the hardest kicks in any martial arts if done properly, if you dont belive me, look it up on the discoverychanel.

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Neuron Says, in 8-26-2008 at 17:03:39 from 130.184.70.176    

What else do you expect from a Cuban. He should stick to rolling cigars, less chance of foot injuries and time expirations.

Dumbass.

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AB Says, in 8-26-2008 at 20:40:35 from 65.46.24.6    

LoL this guy is my hero! That was freaking awesome! There was plenty of judge calls that I would have loved to kick them in the face afterward! <3 this guy!

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Tae-Mex Says, in 8-27-2008 at 02:52:45 from 201.170.34.214    

Forget that he fights like a little girl and has cotton feet, it still is assault with a deadly weapon, punishable in China by shooting squad….

….but wait, he is a communist comrade … maybe it was just an unfortunate accident. Next year nobody will remember :P.

Regarding TKD, maybe they should expanded it to include different styles and modalities, like group fighting. This way Mexico will surely get more gold medals. Why should American swimmers have all the fun?!

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John Sharp Says, in 8-27-2008 at 07:01:17 from 84.201.200.35    

In don’t justify his actions in anyway but still i must say that was another example of how things in both the scoring system and overall rule system must change. What’s with the 10-second-out-disqualify bs ?! The refs should proceed as in boxing – ask the guy if he can go on see if he is adequate then decide.Still, yes the coach and Matos should have been watching the clock. As far as the “Taekwondo sux” object goes it is probably the best and most difficult practiced martial art of which I have nothing but respect seeing first hand how difficult it is to go against someone experienced in it. However I must agree what we’ve been seeing the last 10 years really hasn’t been taekwondo. Matos must be sanctioned (in what way they decide ) but banning him for life is not right. It should not be done to any fighter or athlete. And the Kazakhstan fighter? Well that was probably even more disgraceful than what Matos did. He wiped the floor with you. You really should just shake the ref’s hand and step off. No one saw you bouncing like that when you should have. Well at least now they know what your national flag looks like, right?

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Cricket202 Says, in 8-27-2008 at 07:26:50 from 98.30.141.78    

too bad, a display of cuba’s best showing piss poor sportsman-ship. it was premeditated, he walked around for 40 seconds complaining before he kicked him, it was not spur of the moment. his instructor should demote his rank, the olympics should ban him for life, and the TKD assc. should ban him from any tournmaents, if he is going to go Mike tyson on the ref in the olympics, there is nothing saying he won’t do it on in a tournament, or to a fan that he doesn’t agree with. what a poor showing of the martial artists character

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Steamer Bean Says, in 8-27-2008 at 13:33:26 from 70.177.76.58    

Thats f***** awesome, I was having a pretty bad day. Thanks for the post i needed a good laugh.

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PutoMendoza Says, in 8-27-2008 at 14:03:44 from 99.247.164.222    

Fidel Castro is gonna have a field day with this guys rear end (literally) for emabarrasing Cuba and its people in front of the world. I can clearly visualize a world of pain for this idiot when he comes home……..r*** and torture from BIG MEAN UGLY CUBAN PRISON CONVICTS is very emininent in his near future. This dumbasss deserves whats coming to him.So Very unprofessional and no place in any type of sport.

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j Says, in 8-27-2008 at 14:12:54 from 70.155.220.5    

The anti TKD statements are classic. That’s just what I would expect from people who know nothing about true martial arts. It doesn’t matter what your discipline is. You don’t disrespect another discipline because you think yours is better. If you were disciplined in anything you would know this. But by all means keep talking trash. Show us how ignorant you are.

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woojitsu Says, in 8-27-2008 at 16:20:21 from 12.47.49.97    

Olympic TKD (WTF) is a sport. I don’t know why a good amount of you guys want it banned from the Olympics. It’s the only chance some countries have of winning medals. It’s a shame that a number of athletes this year were disrespectful like this. Poor sportsmanship ftl

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Mike Says, in 8-28-2008 at 05:08:42 from 24.188.107.168    

The Kazakhstani believe or not really did win. It was obvious that the cuban fighter was too hurt to continue and was stalling for time. The cuban knew the rules, he’s been here before in 04. Oh btw, it is customary to wave your flag after medaling in an event. Did you not watch the olympics? And I also don’t think that the cuban wanted to knock the ref out, he wouldn’t have used a front snap kick (front roundhouse kick) to do it. He would have used any variety of kicks generated from the back leg or simply he could have just simply punched him in the face.

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arnold Says, in 8-28-2008 at 05:42:55 from 189.148.169.166    

matos should kick the clock not the referee

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Dan Says, in 8-28-2008 at 15:37:36 from 24.234.174.42    

Should he have kiched the ref? NO. Should he be banned from the Olympics? YES. Should he be banned from competing in TKD? YES but three years only. Should his apponant jumped around with his flag? NO. Bad form. If it were me, I would be ripping myself up for having attached Anyone in anger and not self defence. Hard to forgive. BTW, TKD is a martial art for self defence and improving your physical abilities & confidance. It also has great practical use in a street fight. Don’t think so? Try going up against a practicing, proficiant Blackbelt!! Last thought, why, in the comments offered above, do the majarity of MMA supporters (not all) use profanity and bash other martial arts?

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wow Says, in 8-28-2008 at 19:38:10 from 71.63.10.52    

he definitely should’ve been able to put an unsupecting judge to sleep with a headkick. oh well. lacking a little power there i guess. and hes an embarassment to his nation. congrats you dumbass disgrace

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Costa200 Says, in 8-29-2008 at 00:17:28 from 81.193.138.189    

The funniest thing is that this athlete didn’t even manage to hurt the ref… But i guess he scored a point… lol

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Tim Says, in 8-29-2008 at 00:38:40 from 71.38.163.125    

I practice Tea Kwan Do and judo, and I was looking forward to watching it in the Olympics. Unfortunately I missed in and now all I can find is this video of one guy kicking a ref in the face, and another one jumping around like a little bunny. As for those of you who are complaining about the fact that Matos didn’t knock out the ref, you should be glad that he didn’t, and like Mike you can tell that he wasn’t trying to. If he had tried he could have easily. Those who think that Tae Kwan Do isn’t a serious martial air, feel free to test out your theory in front of a well aimed kick with some power behind it. It might just change your mind.

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jamwityou Says, in 8-29-2008 at 19:11:05 from 24.224.83.252    

for every comment dissin tkd i bet both testes theyve never taken tkd and never been kicked or punched in real life. they just sit in front of the tube imagining how tough mma fighters are and what pussies tkd fighters are. i have seen many mma fights where guys have punched and kicked their opponents and didnt knock em out with one blow. i also bet the ref has some kind of martial arts training and has taken many more real kicks and punches than all the homo thugs questioning how real tkd is. ive taken tkd and karate and boxing. they all have blows that hurt and some that dont. if u have some training and experience one blow usually wont knock any real man out. i would like to see all the mma tough guys get up there and take the same kick. they would GET KNOCKED THE F*** OUT, no doubt about it

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jamwityou Says, in 8-29-2008 at 19:15:01 from 24.224.83.252    

i meant to say i would like all the mma tough guys who are dissin tkd and questioning the toughness of tkd fighters. and as much as i like mma. lately all it is is BULLSHIT ground and pound, stop rubbin up on each other and get up and fight

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rey211 Says, in 8-31-2008 at 19:02:33 from 75.153.125.247    

taekwando should be out from Olympic n get karate back karate so much better n entertaining..

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Mister Pie Says, in 9-1-2008 at 11:12:52 from 86.45.143.61    

Tae Kwon-Do as seen here is WTF Taekwondo and not the same as ITF Style. Im a 4th degree and have trained since 1985 and YES drop that lorry load of bull from the olympics. Im ashamed that even the name of the art that I love has been dragged through the mud by that asshole. And yes my friends the only thing we have in common with WTF taekwondo is the name.
Dont tar us all with the same brush.

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girl Says, in 9-1-2008 at 16:00:39 from 85.10.46.99    

i think that TKD is the most beautiful Martial art, cuz you can see a lot of movement, it’s quick and interessting. i love it. even thought that judges sometimes judge wrong..cuban shouldnt do that. it’s un sport.

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tkdfan Says, in 9-3-2008 at 02:38:47 from 71.104.222.250    

TKd is a really good sport however….this here is a disappointment….
i mean if u saw a refere gets kicked why the hell other guy just runing around like an idiot stop and help the refe at least!

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behchet Says, in 9-5-2008 at 08:47:53 from 83.222.160.28    

Matos is my favorite !!! The olympic games are only machine for making money !!

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jeka Says, in 9-8-2008 at 19:32:18 from 24.231.205.56    

This cuban guy is a complete moron. I wish someone would have jumped out of the crowd and beat his stupid face into the ground. Nothing makes me more mad than watching athletes assualt refs. He should have been arrested and thrown in jail. I hope someone beats the crap out of that complete idiot.

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BOOM Says, in 9-23-2008 at 15:35:09 from 201.160.139.31    

WTF!! all of u talking about TKD!! that guy had a broken toe i dont really even know how he kicked a*******!!

other side his a moron

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OlympicShame Says, in 9-28-2008 at 18:18:22 from 12.215.144.35    

Right on Pie, WTF is a bunch of bullshit. I’m trained in both WTF and ITF and as far as I’m concerned WTF is a waste of time. What the hell is the deal with bouncing around on your toes for two hole minutes and pumping your fist after half-assed landing a shitty kick. Pay a visit to our school and get your ass handed to you. What a disgrace; TKD is one of the most awesome arts to behold when performed by real artists.

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Nometet Says, in 10-30-2008 at 11:31:47 from 81.100.41.192    

Those saying Tae Kwon Do should be dropped from the Olympics should know – in terms of number of practioners, TKD is the most popular martial arts on the planet. More people do it than karate, judo, anything. So if you drop TKD, you should really drop the others as well. Oh, and that spiritual junk is pure fiction. I’m a red belt in TKD, sure there’s a bit of ethics, but no “spirituality”. People should learn more about things before running their mouths off.

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michaelrlacy Says, in 12-10-2008 at 17:24:27 from 76.88.62.10    

Tkd is bullshit

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aa Says, in 1-16-2009 at 23:12:25 from 76.203.140.23    

wat a bad loser….he should be sent to death sentence…haha

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tkdman89 Says, in 8-8-2009 at 13:26:49 from 72.75.197.115    

for all you asshole who are f****** saying Tae Kwon Do is a joke, let’s see you put on the sparring gear and spar I bet you all will your butts handed by both men and women. And as forcit being in the olympic, it should be, people don’t understand it theyvthink that it is boring well if you take Tae Kwon Do it’s not it’s exciting

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lalaland Says, in 2-23-2010 at 22:47:09 from 99.30.98.2    

When talking doesn’t work to fight injustice, violence is the next step. The guy tried making the ref understand that the judging was unfair and so resorted to kick him in the face. If the games have come to the point that the referees give obviously unnecessary qualifications and everything is rigged, then the Olympics are not worth watching. I’m glad Matos kicked the ref in the face and I’m glad he spat on the mat and that his coach backed hi up. He is the only one who had the balls to express how corrupt the Olympics have become.

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carl Says, in 3-3-2010 at 10:53:25 from 111.119.188.43    

What a p**** all you are the guy had a lead and without a doubt was going to defeat the opponent But that fat MF referee ruined his chance. Al u pussies are f****** losers to blame the guy cause if any such injustice happens to any of ya u would just kiss the authorities ass and F*** yourself out of harm cause u need balls to do that. Ugly losers……….

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sith lord Says, in 5-28-2010 at 12:18:19 from 24.61.178.130    

NICE!! That wasn’t disgusting. Some referees wield too much power and at times need to be slapped back down. That’s the way of the world.

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dt655 Says, in 9-16-2010 at 23:20:36 from 70.181.107.192    

just because some stupid guy kicks the ref dosen’t mean they should kick tae kwon do out, i’m a first degree black belt and i love it. just ask some kids that almost got kidnapped, luckly they knew tae kwon do and kicked the guys ass.for all you people that are saying this stuff, shut the F*** up a*******!

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dt655 Says, in 9-16-2010 at 23:23:06 from 70.181.107.192    

i’m with tkdman89

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Retards Says, in 11-20-2010 at 08:39:26 from 76.104.28.48    

I cant believe people are defending that Cuban guy… I mean look at from a different angle u fukin retards…

okay.. say soccer/basketball/baseball… if the soccer player decides to kick the ref in the face because he got a yellow card .. you wouldnt be like “oh good job player! the ref. deserved it”.. if the basketball player decided to smash the ref in the face .. you wouldnt say “ooo good job for doing that..what a bad foul”… if the baseball player threw the baseball and broke the refs teeth .. etc etc.. you get what I am trying to say…

(if u say .. “yea I would do that”.. then I hope u guys dont play ne sports)

Just think before saying nething.. fukin retards

and why is the MMA s*** coming out all of a sudden? tae kwon do is like an art.. where its designed as a sport… (they teach different tae kwon dos… for fighting purposes and for sporting purposes) so calm your small dicks down and let MMA rest cuz you retards fuked it so much

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Jac Van Java Says, in 3-5-2011 at 21:57:57 from 125.163.150.202    

Don’t judge them if’ur not an athlete…
U don’t know anything about their feeling…

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mmaInTheOlympicsLOL Says, in 5-1-2011 at 22:32:42 from 67.121.211.226    

FYI … at the current state of MMA there is no way fighters could compete in the olympics. Imagine any MMA fighter fighting 3 fights in less than 3 weeks, that’s outrageous, there is no time to recuperate for injuries sustained. When the fighters are standing on the podium they probably wouldn’t even be able to see out of their eyes and not to mention all the cuts/bruises on their faces. In essence, MMA probably would have to implement thicker gloves and head gear which detracts from the original joy in watching MMA.

If any sports are going to be removed, I think that s*** where they throw things in the air and twirl ribbons around should be tossed out. And any events that require a judge’s personal call and not based on a point or time system.

As far as TKD being in the olympics, it’s one of my favorites to watch. Check out Moon Dae Jung’s 2004 Olympic Gold win over Greece and you can see the true power and speed of tkd.

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Hoeruokami Says, in 10-21-2011 at 15:56:49 from 174.61.159.0    

Olympic Taekwon do is a complete joke, even it’s practitioners frequently call it “Sport Taekwon do.” The martial art is a knock-off of General Choi’s Traditional Taekwon do, which is forms the ITF. Olympic TKD’s group is the “World Taekwon Do Federation,” or “WTF.”

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Kimi Pellietier Says, in 7-24-2012 at 01:18:55 from 108.177.230.219    

Very interesting info!Perfect just what I was looking for!. “Everybody likes to go their own way–to choose their own time and manner of devotion.”

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Question please Says, in 8-2-2012 at 11:55:15 from 74.166.149.43    

Let’s be clear, if Cuban officials don’t see at least a that level of reaction against a ref they’re not supportive of the athlete. Unfortunately, island “sports honor” doesn’t control international rulings: This ban for life means Matos will suddenly lose his daily square meals, something to do all day, and his head filled with “guapo”! He’ll become yet another frustrated street thug on the island.

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