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dogeater Says, in 7-29-2008 at 08:46:10 from 72.227.138.32    

wow! the god loses! that guy got lucky! these guys
have to fight again????

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Black Gerbil1 Says, in 7-29-2008 at 08:47:16 from 78.149.14.37    

Silva is overrated, he has no ground game, does he even know any BJJ, Kimbo would KTFO.

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Breached Says, in 7-29-2008 at 09:02:00 from 74.237.239.27    

=o what what ¿?

well done

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Trucecity Says, in 7-29-2008 at 09:20:42 from 70.21.193.239    

Son of a bitch, wow amazing, i did not think we was going to submit him, nice find & nice post!

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Dogg Says, in 7-29-2008 at 09:23:08 from 82.27.194.145    

Wow, didn’t see the tap but it must have happened. Probably an off day for the Spider, who’s gonna be the next to beat him?

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I_ARE_BABOON Says, in 7-29-2008 at 10:12:14 from 96.232.3.35    

tap bitch!

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TailsFromTheCrypt Says, in 7-29-2008 at 10:53:44 from 209.202.54.21    

WTF…did silva tap or did the ref end it???

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ihateblackgerbil Says, in 7-29-2008 at 11:49:57 from 75.100.80.187    

ok black gerbil i cant tell if your serious or joking but if you are serious i feel bad for you :(

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darkangel Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:11:02 from 74.166.70.38    

Silva does have a history of getting submitted unexpectedly in his earlier fights. Just look at Silva vs. Ryu Chonan with the flying scissor heel hook from nowhere.

But, to say he has no ground game is completely absurd. I don’t think the same thing would happen today, he’s a lot better now than when he fought in Pride.

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Principal Skinner Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:13:53 from 76.69.70.188    

Bruno, do you have the fight video of Anderson Silva and Ryo Chonan? Bruno: Anderson Silva and Ryo Chonan highlight.

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doscojones Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:24:52 from 68.193.138.9    

that guy didn’t get lucky, dogeater. he fuckign tooled silva the whole match, and that submission setup at the end was perfection. it was remarkably out of character, though. takase seemed like a man possessed… if he fought that way every fight his record would be very different.

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Fabiano Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:41:04 from 70.136.40.116    

“Silva is overrated, he has no ground game, does he even know any BJJ, Kimbo would KTFO.”

All chute boxe fighters have a good ground game and Anderson Silva is a blackbelt,!! I know he didnt look so good there, oops..

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Pundiggity420 Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:51:56 from 24.72.103.226    

BlackGerbil1: Silva is a BJJ black belt u dumb fuck. He took 18 months off before this fight because of extensive knee surgery. By the way…Kimbo Slice fucking blows. If he fought a real fighter…he would get his ass kicked.

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Wolf55 Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:53:08 from 68.4.77.131    

lol are you kidding me Anderson Silva is a Black Belt BJJ. he tapped out henderson and henderson rarely gets caught in submission. Silva knows he is more effective striking than he would be on the ground. Back then he silva got caught with submissions but now he got alot better, or the people he fights now dont know how to take silva on, which is pretty much true at this point.

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random Says, in 7-29-2008 at 12:54:57 from 71.107.3.130    

Old fight, silva is a different fighter today. He is an amazing fighter, but he is a tad overrated.

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Mefninja Says, in 7-29-2008 at 13:34:31 from 74.13.112.32    

please lets not be stupid and judge a fighter on his early fights… lets not be ignorants and not realise that fighters get better over time.. (erm or worse)

lets not forget that silva has dominated everyone since 2004.

try not to be idiotic and say spider has no ground game when he submitted lutter and hendy on the ground (lutter had a 5second mount got sweeped out.. then submitted)

lets not be stupid and call anderson silva overrated.. cause when you finish 7 people in the UFC 5 of which are title defenses, and beat all the challengers within the first 2 rounds your the real deal.

a.silva is the p4p best cause hes been dominating fighters who are the number 1 contender for his title… simply why fedor isnt p4p best… only “real” fighter hes faught lately is sylvia.

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:pingaLoca Says, in 7-29-2008 at 14:59:31 from 68.161.17.155    

That was a great transition, have to give it to the guy for that, but the spider has evolved since this fight, man, it’s sad to see people dog on silva when this was only his second loss. His first loss was his debute, but went on to win 9 fights most by tko before this one. However, silva only received to losses after this fight one to chonan, the other to okami and has gone on to become the best p4p fighter. On the other hand the same cannot be said about daiju, his record to date is 7-11-1. I think some people believe that great fighters don’t lose or cannot lose i.e. fedor, but when they begin to loose. Those same people begin to dog them, GOOO! Giants, Redsox, etc.

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bb Says, in 7-29-2008 at 15:00:24 from 99.255.234.123    

how can u say that fedor is not better, u have no idea what ur talking about, if u watch pride u would know that fedor has beaten all the best fighters in the world, and he has never lost except for that NC, definitely the greatest p4p mma fighte, i mean have u seen silvia get dominated like that before, i bet if randy were to fight him, he would get destroyed too,

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Omer Says, in 7-29-2008 at 15:14:14 from 68.36.0.200    

I dont agree that he doesnot have a ground game but if he s ever gonna be beaten again, I think it will be a submission. and in my humble opinion, the person will be gsp.

I think it will be a great fight. gsp will take him down somehow after getting some strikes, then he is gonna submit him again somehow…

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eyeless Says, in 7-29-2008 at 15:59:49 from 64.95.181.6    

Guys,

Don’t let Black Gerbil troll you. He says the same thing in every post. “Blah blah would get KTFO by Kimbo.” He’s a total troll and looking to get your goat.

Funny thing is, the Black Gerbil that posts on the MMATKO message boards actually posts constructively, so I am still unsure if they are one and the same person.

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TH3SH3PH3RD Says, in 7-29-2008 at 16:07:07 from 24.14.184.196    

Black Gerbil……..you’re a nub cake. Silva would eat Kimbo alive.

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GuessWho Says, in 7-29-2008 at 16:46:39 from 76.67.80.42    

Black Gerbil yer an idiot… he trained under the Nogueira brothers and is apart of chute boxe academy.. has no ground game? your a moron

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Niv Says, in 7-29-2008 at 17:06:31 from 64.59.144.21    

The Spider loses, so what? I know to many that visit these sites a loss means the end of greatness.

Silva is a great fighter and it’s inevitable that he will lose again, that doesn’t take away the fact that he is great at what he does.

That fight wasn’t that early into his career as Mefninja is stating either. He had a lot of experience in Brazil leading up to his career in Pride. Since leaving Pride he has been unstoppable, and is a credit to all of the great fighters he’s trained with in the past at Chute Boxe(Wandy, Shogun, Ninja, Cyborg, etc.)

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gummo-815 Says, in 7-29-2008 at 17:38:28 from 75.21.119.16    

^ what he said

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David Says, in 7-29-2008 at 18:42:46 from 99.254.49.151    

whoa what the hell happened? i guess everyone has a bad night. screw yushin okami, fly this guy over from japan to fight anderson

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m1 Says, in 7-29-2008 at 18:47:07 from 24.166.26.67    

yah he got sick ground game, taht one guy henderson couldnt do anything

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Huan Says, in 7-29-2008 at 19:11:25 from 67.184.222.68    

I’m an American so UFC has the best p4p fighters, from Big Nog, Rampage, GSP, A. Silva, & BJ Penn. Yeah even though they have lost before, but websites still rated them in the top ten p4p.
Next week we gonna take all the summer Olympics gold, cause USA is the best at everything.
I wonder if I can read Russian and I’m on their website, who would be the best p4p on their site?
Be realistic, UFC owns some of the best fighters, but they don’t own all the best fighters.
There are money involve, if you advertise with my website and magazine, I will rate your fighters high, and write good article about your company, that’s how capitalist works.

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kaydan Says, in 7-29-2008 at 19:37:32 from 88.110.71.120    

listen to the guy who posted a comment before me(dont listen to BlackGerbil1)

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mmapr0 Says, in 7-29-2008 at 19:53:48 from 24.182.4.47    

lol…kimbo…. lol

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dragonslayer Says, in 7-29-2008 at 21:05:31 from 75.21.75.111    

wow i can see alot of people are new to the sport( not saying in a bad way, thats great). this fight was long ago, silva has shown mad improvement since that fight n takasi has been beat many times since. silva went up up up since this fight n takasi went way down. they wont ever rematch

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MikeisNissan Says, in 7-29-2008 at 23:47:33 from 71.246.209.74    

Where is Daiju Takase now?

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yomaMMA Says, in 7-29-2008 at 23:53:15 from 75.155.90.233    

Fact o’ the matter is, it dosen’t matter how or what you critique about him..Right now he’s the UFC middleweight champ and he didn’t get there through the back door.No doubt he is not unbeatable,but right now he’s on top of the hill until someone knocks him off.

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Bakersaztlan Says, in 7-30-2008 at 00:50:12 from 76.220.238.220    

That Asian dude owned Silva.

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Brendan Says, in 7-30-2008 at 01:09:54 from 146.171.254.66    

OMG what will the american UFC lovers (any other org haters really) think now???

We all know you think the UFC has the best fighters by a mile but what does it say when Silva has absolutely dominated the UFC and the best american 185lb fighters out there (and 1 205lb’er) but he can be beaten by two journeyman japanese fighters.

Now don’t get me wrong I’m not a silva hater or a UFC hater I’m just a hater of the so called “fans” who think anything outside of the USA is not worth mentioning.Japan is full of fighters trained in traditional martial arts and alot have the type of skill used here against silva which is alot more interesting to watch as well as more effective than all those ex-college wrestlers that fill the UFC’s ranks.

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Jaks Emel Says, in 7-30-2008 at 01:27:54 from 98.14.165.166    

It’s amazing to see how many non-fighter punks on here talking shit about Silva when he lost one fight years and tears ago… It’s amazing. Every fighter has an off day and this was one of Silva’s. Black Gerbil’s comments made me laugh out of the basic ignorance that he displayed. Kimbo would get DESTROYED by Anderson Silva. Kimbo would be destroyed by any UFC Heavyweight, Light Heavyweight, Middleweight, and even Welterweights. Any fighter with a good stand-up game and decent ground game would beat Kimbo. Kimbum needs to go back to fighting chumps in his backyard.

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Corey Says, in 7-30-2008 at 02:10:05 from 12.157.134.103    

Shit, im humored that everyone is sayin he doesnt have a ground game… even in this fight.. he’s elbowing the thighs, heel kicking, and throwing monster punches from the bottom. I guess the big mistake is he didnt put a lot of effort into bringing it back up. I didnt actually see a tap, either… i must’ve rewound and watched 5-6 times… he crossed his hands.. he didnt put a lot of effort into escaping… but he didnt tap. And he wasnt unconscious when the ref called it… are you sure daiju had it right? Whatever. rematch these guys and see the outcome.

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Huan Says, in 7-30-2008 at 12:20:54 from 67.184.222.68    

It’s funny that a few years ago when you have Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, Chuck Liddell, and Couture are the best rated fighters. Now they got their ass whip by Pride fighters and other fighters from out side of USA. Base on history, do you still think UFC still have most the best p4p fighters? We’re all victims of marketing.

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Animahngo Says, in 7-30-2008 at 12:39:38 from 24.34.242.115    

Wow. You people are just…wow. What does it say that he could be beaten by journeymen japanese fighters? It says that he had a lot of shit to learn WAY back when when this fight was fought. I think all you stupid shit are mistaking this for a recent fight or something. It isn’t. It’s fucking old. Anderson has grown a LOT in the past couple years and he is without question the greatest p4p fighter on the planet.

and that Gerbil fag needs to stop breathing.

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shawn Says, in 7-30-2008 at 12:44:31 from 75.3.10.177    

terry martin was beating diaju takase ass last fight

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cory Says, in 7-30-2008 at 13:52:44 from 168.156.154.163    

jesus silva used to be a bitch. How can u not roll out of the mount of a little asian man? especially when he is sticking his leg over your god damn head silva!?

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J_satan_666 Says, in 7-30-2008 at 13:56:02 from 75.62.110.2    

this was a silva ten years ago guys. to say he has no ground game is insane. here’s how i think he lost. bjj is different from japanese judo. there’s more of an one two three = c with the japanese style. it’s way more formulaic. bjj uses the same principals but cuts steps out to get a quicker answer. I think the style change is why a silva looked like a fish out of water.
guys don’t get upset with I-r_baboon and gerbil1 i’ve learned to tune them out. i think there like internet vampires who feed of hate and it strengthens their ignorance keeping them alive.

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tko Says, in 7-30-2008 at 15:23:55 from 204.50.7.200    

a silva is da man! he’s such a gentleman with great sportsmanship. i don’t understand how people would hate a person like him?

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kimboslam76 Says, in 7-30-2008 at 16:03:36 from 69.242.251.247    

SILVA FOR PRESIDENT!

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CTANain Says, in 7-30-2008 at 16:13:50 from 91.163.19.192    

Stop judging fighters because they are in UFC,
Pride or whatever ….
Some say that Pride fighters are better,
then why almost all of their UFC
debut are a lost.

Some say that UFC fighters are better,
then Chuck got beat by Rampage.
then where was Fedor.
then where was Gomi.

You will always find arguments just because
it doesn’t matter you are from UFC or PRIDE or whatever.

You re good, you go where the life brings you.You get contracts with one top level organization.
When you are famous, you choose.

That’s it

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Farmma Says, in 7-30-2008 at 21:24:28 from 202.46.138.127    

black gerbil is #1 p4p!

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Micah Says, in 7-30-2008 at 22:19:53 from 98.197.33.201    

Fedor is better than Kimbo, A. Silva, Couture, and whoever else.

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dazedandconfused Says, in 7-31-2008 at 03:45:27 from 75.128.146.144    

I’m seeing a guy that has 4 losses. How can he be the best p4p fighter? More like the media told all of you he was the best so you believe it. This match just goes to show that no matter how bad Dana thinks you are, there is always a way to beat you. YOU CAN’T WIN THEM ALL.

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RAZO Says, in 7-31-2008 at 15:29:14 from 135.12.0.34    

MR.Anderson needed to learn from his mistakes to be the best.Look were he is at today.

most fight retire after losing so many times.

He is a true humble “Master”.

Note: If he was to fight the guy again he will win. Somtimes its not about winning or losing but knowledge you gain each fight.

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darkangel Says, in 7-31-2008 at 15:39:37 from 74.166.70.38    

^ ^ ^ ^

Didn’t you just nulify your own point there?

I don’t recall there ever being a champion in UFC, Pride or whatever that hasn’t been defeated at least once. Even the great Fedor has 1 loss on his record.

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Mefninja Says, in 7-31-2008 at 22:22:25 from 74.15.90.157    

some people are soo dumb.. losing fights in your past.. doesnt make you a bad fighter.. look at the fighter today.. peopl eimprove… like silva has… now hes nearly unstoppable…

he lost in the future.. all that did was make him the better fighter he is today.. stop being ignorant and stupid.. cause you hate dana white and the UFC soo much..

“Huan Says, in 7-30-2008 at 12:20:54 from 67.184.222.68 It’s funny that a few years ago when you have Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin, Chuck Liddell, and Couture are the best rated fighters. Now they got their ass whip by Pride fighters and other fighters from out side of USA. Base on history, do you still think UFC still have most the best p4p fighters? We’re all victims of marketing.”

what pride fighter recvently beat hughes and couture in the ufc..

and yea ufc still has the best p4p fighters.. cause ummm… all those fighter lost in the ufc to fighters who are in the ufc.. you fail

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Mefninja Says, in 7-31-2008 at 22:23:15 from 74.15.90.157    

honeslt people who cant realise that ufc has the best p4p fighters are ignorant haters…

hey im not saying affliction dream etc. doesnt have good fighters… its just obvious that UFC overall has the best p4p fighters

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TABASCOsauce Says, in 7-31-2008 at 23:22:43 from 66.235.49.111    

Anderson Silva has lost in the past. I’m sure he’ll age and lose in the future. Mike Tyson did. Ali did. Roy Jones did.

Age, inexperience, an off night – it catches up to everyone in the fight game.

Anderson Silva of 2008 is in his prime. Forget the P4P ratings from fat media slobs that don’t train, fight, or even compete in any sport..much less MMA.

Enjoy Silva’s dominance for what it is.

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Sean Says, in 8-1-2008 at 01:17:15 from 71.129.34.120    

iv’e grown to only look for gerbils comments, they’re the most entertaining ones on here. if you guys cant see hes joking your the idiots and hes getting the response he wants

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teejaaay Says, in 8-1-2008 at 06:32:48 from 69.226.35.108    

Daiju Takase is not a nobody.
he beat emmanuel yarburough, enough said.
check it out youll be shocked!!!!

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Daniyal Says, in 8-1-2008 at 07:28:02 from 117.102.28.21    

Anderson Silva has worked a lot since this fight he’s a much better fighter. A fighter needs to loose every once in a while to stay humble I think this loss did Silva good, just like loosing to Ken Shamrock revitalised Bas Rutten.. Kimbo’s a joke, some one please put him in a ring with Fedor hell put him in a ring with any one who knows how to fight.

A. Silva versus Fedor for the p4p championship lets do it I’m sure someone out there has the money to make it happen.

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Huan Says, in 8-2-2008 at 15:16:14 from 67.184.222.68    

I love dana and UFC. They do have some of the best p4p fighters but not all.
Mefninja…. Matt Hughes lost to Thiago Alves, I think Alves consider to be outside of USA. Can’t say anything about Couture cause he fought exactly 3 fights last three years. Of course you have to contract with UFC to fight in the UFC, so all the win and loss are in the UFC. Tim Silva who is free agent, look what happen to him.
Definitely, I consider A. Silva to be in top 3 p4p but to rated him above Fedor, who destroyed a former UFC champ in less than a minute. If you wanna play blind man, go walk with the shepherd.

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hardcorefan Says, in 8-6-2008 at 06:59:36 from 99.251.23.97    

I agree with Huan, Silva will never beat Fedor in his life, Who did Silva beat in his last few fights, all were from UFC contenders but none from pride contenders. Why is that so…
why don’t we ask Dana, because he will tell you that Spider will loose.


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