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Joe Dog Says, in 7-9-2012 at 20:48:55 from    

That some takedown defense.

This isn’t hype Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:00:51 from    

like i posted before, no one will care because chael cheated before (having testrone levels above the allowed range due to his prescribed trt)and saying things that crossed lines before the fight. I am sure uncle dana will dismiss this as being a fight, and not a fighter using underhanded techniques that are soft enough not to get penalized but lead to a huge advantage during a fight, greg jackson style. now we have talented fighters with geniune martial arts skillusing the same bullsh*t that less talented, but “smart” road runners and lay and prayers. MMA is evolving again…

Im sure he Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:02:38 from    

Let’s not forget the greasing before the fight; Not a real champion if you have to cheat to win.

jdogg Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:03:24 from    

not surprised. not a good win at all for Silva. too much controversy. they honestly need to do it one more time. Siva both greased himself, and grabbed sonnen’s shorts numerous times after being warned. and the knee, whie legal, was just a cheap shot.

YMCA Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:05:15 from    

chael had an E:T ratio way above normal in the first fight and Anderson Silva was hurt and he still lost the fight. Short grabbing or whatever it doesn’t change anything, Chael himself said that it didn’t impact the result of the fight.

andersonsmama Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:08:57 from    

anderson also rubbed vaseline all over before the fight started,that take down could have made all the difference,but we will never know now.

MelloJay Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:09:25 from    

I hate Silva… he’s a cheat.

MelloJay Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:10:00 from    

First vaseline, then short pulling, then illegal thigh to the face.

Grappling-J Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:10:17 from    

Between the knee on the ground, grabbing the shorts, and rubbing vaseline all over his body, Chael has every right to appeal this fight.

andersonsmama Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:13:30 from    

I guess this proves it anderson had to cheat to win,if Chael would have got that take down he would have won.

fire Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:18:24 from    

I was cheering for Sonnen, but I accepted that he lost. But now I see this.. kinda pisses me off

Hoping someone takes Silva out soon.

vaughnrich Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:33:55 from    

not on purpose i don’t think, just an involuntary response to not get taken down.

kyokushin Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:39:53 from    

even if he did grab sonnen pants, on the next attempt he will get taken down. like the 1st fight, the fight ends when sonnen did a mistake. this case was the spinning fist.

zmayo Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:52:04 from    

probably wrong on this, but i dont see holding the shorts with four fingers much help. I would see holding the fence would be more help

StevenSeagalsProdigy Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:53:43 from    

Shorts had nothing to do with it if you ask me.. I thought maybe silva should have been warned when he grabbed sonnens shorts while sonnen was backing up but not in this gif.

Hockytocky Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:56:23 from    

if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’

bobbylee Says, in 7-9-2012 at 21:57:26 from    

anderson got a little dirty for this fight but its the little things you can see the same type stuff with mendes vs aldo where he grabs the cage to stop and takedown and then a few seconds later knees the face for the win the refs need to step it up

Karate4yuASS Says, in 7-9-2012 at 22:00:29 from    

LOL awesome! Suck it Chael!

best in the business Says, in 7-9-2012 at 22:23:24 from    

nice moves anderson. whatever it takes to win, shorts grabbing is still more legal than excessive trt ;)

Tempted Says, in 7-9-2012 at 22:39:16 from    

@best in the business
What about greasing and kneeing a downed opponent? I don’t think Chael was going to win the fight but he did completely dominate Anderson in the 1st round. After they got sweaty and the vasoline got damp Chael couldn’t hold on to anything, and Anderson was holding his shorts. Then when he threw the illegal knee he was holding onto the fence. Watch the first Wes Sims/Frank Mir fight, same thing. Sims was holding the fence while delivering illegal blows to head of Mir. He got disqualified. Silva gets the belt.

Terry Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:06:14 from    

Short Grabbing


Knee to chest (but upper thigh to chin)


psxdogg Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:18:09 from    

Chael said he didn’t care bc he grabbed his shorts right back. But that’s all bs Chael was just playing nice at the post-fight press conference..

In reality these guys were good friends all along behind the curtains… you saw what Silva did after the fight. They both cashed in big time

Ozinator Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:24:27 from    

trt isn’t illegal…short grabbing, greasing and knees to face of downed opponents are. Aldo being a kunt doesn’t mean that Silva isn’t.

sdfg Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:30:46 from    

trt is not illegal. some of you folks are as dumb as a brick. silva is a cheap shot, shorts grabbing, vasoline rubbing chump. A real cheater!!! And the whole world saw it, plain as day. But at the end of the day does it matter? Chael is the only fighter I’d actually get excited to see fight silva. Who wouldn’t pay to see them fight for the third time?????????

sdfg Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:37:33 from    

chael probably had a concussion prior to the fight due to the cheap shot from silva. that was some of the worst sportmanship i’ve seen in a while.

sdfg Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:38:35 from    

i respect a man who looses without complaining. especially when there’s a lot to complain about.

KouNTa KuLCHa Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:44:00 from    

Greasing, huh. Did y’all not catch the ref wiping him off with a towel?
Illegal, cheapshot knee….looked like the one ‘Shad threw into Tito not too long ago.
And then this, the whole grabbing the shorts dealy. Peeps bitching are prolly the same people who said Lindland woulda beat Fedor if he wouldn’t have grabbed the ropes (IF you were even watching MMA then..).
Anderson won, Chael is humbled, and life goes on. Please, get a lady friend. ;)

Idiots Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:56:44 from    

Short pulling? are you serious? Chael sonnen got nicked in the face and went down like a sack of potatos. Greasing? Are you serious? Why the F*** would he need to grease to fight a guy who’s only weapon is a double leg takedown? If your opponent grabbing a bit of a short with 3 fingers is the reason why you lost a fight then you were never meant to win. Chael sucks. He is a one dimensional wrestler with good stamina and that about sums it. Anderson was healthy going into this fight and Chael Sonnen probably wasn’t nearly as strong as the last fight since I doubt he had 16:1 trt ratio this time around. Too many Americans on this website think defending Sonnen is somehow their patriotic duty. Stfu. Great Jiu Jitsu, great take-down defense and superb striking is what won this fight. Denial doesn’t change facts. As far as the knee goes honestly i was hoping it was an illegal knee to the face but too bad it wasn’t. asswipes like sonnen that’ll do and say anything to make a bit of money need to have their f****** faces re-arranged.

T’Challa Says, in 7-9-2012 at 23:59:14 from    

LOL! Good.. Sonnen fans, cry all you want about greasing, shorts grabbing, and “thighs to the face” (WTF??) all that won’t change the fact that your boy FAIL Sonnen let u down once again in a spectacularly idiotic fashion. His comedic attempt at a spinning back fist is what cost him this fight. Anderson Silva is the GOAT of MMA. Be honest, you just hate Silva for your own twisted reasons. Now that Sonnen is toast, you’ll cling on to whoever his next opponent is. Same thing with Jon Jones…keep on hating suckers.

metallicafan Says, in 7-10-2012 at 00:09:13 from    

this does piss me off a bit. but what lost the fight for chael was standing with anderson and trying that stupid spinning back fist

Gio Says, in 7-10-2012 at 00:09:55 from    

U guys are just a bunch of haterz. lol. Learn some MMA.

Moribund Says, in 7-10-2012 at 00:14:57 from    

It’s unfortunate Silva grabbed his shorts. It did appear to stop the takedown. However, I’ve never seen a fight overturned for grabbing shorts.
Anyways, the knee was to the chest, the vasoline was rubbed off before the fight, and he didn’t grab the fench (the fench goes backwards during the strike).

drunkentigah Says, in 7-10-2012 at 00:36:00 from    

the vaseline was wiped off by the ref.

steamer Says, in 7-10-2012 at 00:55:32 from    

you guys are ridiculous. trying any way possible to portray fail sonnen in a more positive light is just shameful. he’s a loud mouth cheating douche. they could fight 20 times, and regardless of any excuses anyone wants to make for him, sonnen would be lucky to get his hand raised even one time. Anderson Silva is one of the best fighters of all time. sonnen’s style matches up well and a ton of hype are the only reasons he ever even got a crack at Anderson. mark my words, if he doesn’t retire or go to pro wrestling or commentary, sonnen will hang around and get thumped on by middle of the pack fighters, just like he always has. the only reason he even got the nod in the Bisping fight is there are enough idiots out there that bought into the hype, and the UFC was seeing lots of dollar signs in a rematch between Silva and sonnen.

POL E Says, in 7-10-2012 at 01:06:31 from    

If the thigh was thrown in the form of, for lack of a better term, a roundhouse kick to the head of a downed opponent the whole thing would have been ruled differently. Makes no sense. The ref should have stopped the fight and let Sonnen gather himself for the arguable inadvertent blow to the head much like a fighter who gets a blow to the groin gets time to shake it off.

DanielMcfate Says, in 7-10-2012 at 01:16:23 from    

I thought the shorts grabbing as Anderson threw a punch (which landed) so Sonnen couldn’t back away was even more obvious.

Corey Says, in 7-10-2012 at 01:23:28 from    

Lets see… greasing… oh that was first round. Ref wiped off a little excessive vaseline that silva wiped off his face because they applied TOO MUCH. And he lost that round. Argument becomes moot. Short grabbing, again. Didnt change the fight, at all. Moot point. Knee, perfectly legal, completely legal. Not even worth discussing. If you disagree, watch the replay, then stfu. Thanks. The only thing embarrassing about this fight was Chael’s spinning backfist. Anything else from you nut huggers?

fufc Says, in 7-10-2012 at 01:30:47 from    

will some of you just stfu about the knee. it was clearly to the body, there is no rule against “thighing” a grounded opponent, otherwise there would some shitty sidemounts.

yes i do acknowledge that the shorts grabbing and vaseline were not the most legal of tactics

ETK Says, in 7-10-2012 at 01:45:12 from    

Let Silva beat Chael again. And again, and again, and again, and again. But don’t let Chael get paid for repeatedly losing to Silva.

sibel Says, in 7-10-2012 at 01:56:37 from    

I cannot believe the tools in this forum. The “He greased ! ” “The shorts !” . Please get over the fact that Chael is not even close to the same level as Anderson. Come down to earth and accept it. This is so absurd at every level ..

sooooopernate Says, in 7-10-2012 at 02:02:47 from    

While I DO have a huge problem with the grabbing of the shorts, you guys can’t keep talking about an illegal knee and grease, because those things didn’t happen. The knee hit the body, Chael said so himself, and the vasoline was wiped off by the ref as soon as silva took it off of his face. While I agree that the short holding thwarted one takedown attempt (because that does give one a leverage advantage), the subsequent takedown attempts were stifled legitimately, and the damaging blows were not marred by any illegal activity. Having said that, I would still like to see a 3rd bout in the future, not an immediate rematch, but maybe another 2 years down the road.

donradikal Says, in 7-10-2012 at 03:32:44 from    

what if sonnen wasn’t AMERICAN??? Wich one of you would a damn care if Bisping was in the ring in chael’s place??? or had sonnen done the same??? I’m sure the knee would’ve been legal for aaalll of you….. and that short grabbin would have been not on purpose but happened on the hype of the fight…

frankobecny Says, in 7-10-2012 at 03:44:30 from    

how do u know that he greased him self?

andersoncheats Says, in 7-10-2012 at 05:40:25 from    

It was still fun watching Chael beat his ass in the first round,those short shots had to hurt over and over again,but anderson is the worst champ in U.F.C history,and this just proves it.

Jasonfn22 Says, in 7-10-2012 at 06:34:02 from    

It’s just like in Nascar when Dale Sr. dominated I hated his guts but never knew why and when he was killed I have never watched another race because It wasn’t the same.GSP and Anderson both are super nice and respectful guys which kids could want to be like……….But I want to see them both get god damn f****** murdered I am tired of this bullshit.Maybe Mike Bisping will come through for us now or maybe Mark munoz but their is nothing interesting at 185 as far as a title event. Oh yeah Jon Jones yeah he is a nice guy to but F*** him god dammit somebody take these belts this s*** is so f***** disappointing.

bigbadal Says, in 7-10-2012 at 06:38:21 from    

Lot’s of cry babies here lol. It’s a fight people! Chael got a whopping. Deal with it!

bigbadal Says, in 7-10-2012 at 06:39:24 from    

Looks like Chael is also grabbing hold of Anderson’s shorts there too

OhBoy Says, in 7-10-2012 at 06:44:28 from    

Yes; Chael got caught cheating. He also dealt with the consequences. Silva blatantly cheats; doesn’t deal with the consequences.

Tankless Says, in 7-10-2012 at 07:05:43 from    

Silva`s a cheat TRT isn`t , If Dana lets this go through without a rematch then the UFC is worse then boxing.

Jack Says, in 7-10-2012 at 07:19:01 from    

@psxdogg- That’s what I think too (them being friends).

Not trying to be an asshole or be the bringer of bad news, BUT, I’m not sure how some of you compartmentalize the violence in these fights. I know some people had to be desensitized in order to watch MMA. I used to get sick to my stomach when I’d watch the first 5 UFC’s with teeth flying, Royce ripping out Kimo’s hair from the guard.

Anderson is trying not to get his ass kicked. Don’t know about you, but I would do whatever I had to do in order to not get my ass kicked. The pain is real, although at the time most guys don’t feel it.

If anything Ive Lavine is to blame. Soon as I saw that he was the ref I said “oh s***, that’s a bad ref for this fight.” I’m not defending the whole shorts pulling, just trying to lend some understanding.

gusorloff Says, in 7-10-2012 at 07:35:16 from    

Stop talking bullshit…Silva won this figth …knees are part of martial arts …to the chest or face or body.Sonnen could not win the first figth either.He had Anderson on the ground for 4 rounds and did nothing.He had him on the gruond the first round again and what ??? nothing again…He is the champion.Period.Im not Brazilian by the way….

uncledana Says, in 7-10-2012 at 07:45:33 from    

trt is unnecessary and unfair.

the knee was very legal. and devistating.

the shorts stuff is so minor. you have to do it for about fifteen seconds, ignoring the ref the whole time, for a deduction.

it was a great win for silva. if you want to be treated as a sportsman, act like one.

ctimboden Says, in 7-10-2012 at 09:00:31 from    

@jdogg, i get your point, but you cant say the knee was a cheap shot when it was legal. wtf is that? thats like saying any other legal technique that knocks someone out is a cheap shot.

DaPetes Says, in 7-10-2012 at 13:48:12 from    

Almost everyone who fights a wrestler grabs the shorts. When your about to be put on your back (and laid on for the remainder of the round) you grab anything out of sheer reaction. Jose Aldo would have been slammed to the mat by Chad Mendez if he didnt grab the fence in Brazil. Even if they deducted a point from Silva for it, it would not have changed the outcome of the fight.

Anderson Silva got a legit win and for people stilll saying he did an illegal knee to the face…go watch WWE. Im glad Silva won because it shut Chael Sonnen up. I love a good trash talker but he was just spewing bullcrap saying how he won the fight and considers himself the champ…he clearly tapped and even while on roids. His trash talk is on par with name calling in elementary school. Even

Rio_Warrior Says, in 7-10-2012 at 13:48:21 from    

This butthurted fail sonnen fans are comic.

Jake Says, in 7-10-2012 at 14:54:29 from    

First off, I have a strong feeling anyone saying the grease was “wiped off by the ref” have never had to apply Vaseline while training. Because if your familiar with Vaseline, you know a quick 2 second towel rub isn’t going to take it off. Go ahead try it, buy some Vaseline, rub it on your arms and see if it comes off. Furthermore, wipe if off, break a sweat and notice how it comes back.

Although, I admit there must not have been THAT much Vaseline, since he just took what was applied to his face and rubbed it on his body. But in my opinion, its FACT that he blatantly tried to cheat, just like he did in his fight with Vitor Belfort.

See for yourself
and skip to 10:08

Gannondork Says, in 7-10-2012 at 15:19:11 from    

> Implying Sonnen didn’t cheat in the first fight?


Swordsmansmith Says, in 7-10-2012 at 15:52:51 from    

Too much controversy and cheating going on. And Chael was covering up and still defending when the fight was stopped. Early stoppage imo. The finish was just unsatisfying. I was hoping Chael grinds out a decision or Silva KO’s him. We got neither….

The Jizzle Says, in 7-10-2012 at 16:01:15 from    

horrible gif..thought my computer was glitching.

greasehater Says, in 7-10-2012 at 19:50:29 from    

i love how these sonnen fans are using the grease as a reason anderson cheated chael, grease barely will help anderson, in fact it would help chael more because hes a grinder and the grease would help him when anderson tries to hold him from advancing. second, gsp greased way worse than anderson and gsp is a grinder so obviously it would help him more and it did v bj, yet im sure these sonnen fans dont admit to that fact. third, i hope bruno didnt bet on sonnen for the win but judging by all these anti silva threads im assuming he did.

j172 Says, in 7-10-2012 at 23:09:17 from    

TRT is legal. Haha. As long as it is replaced to normal levels!! LOL.

MMA is taking over Says, in 7-11-2012 at 10:12:21 from    

I’ve grown to like chael a lot more. I knew he wasn’t going to complain about anything. I appreciated some stuff he said before the fight about how no one should feel 100% training for a cage fight, cuz even the nature of the training is dangerous. One time I read a long interview chael did and could not believe how humble and respectful and knowledgable he was. I think there is “camera chael” and “real chael”. (he probably realized the more crazy he talked, the more he got noticed and paid). Also saw the interview with eddie bravo where chael was high, sooooo good, check it out.
The thing I have against TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) is that the UFC allows a 6:1 ratio on the *off-chance that someone is one of the really rare humans that naturally produces way more testosterone than the average guy (who has a 1:1 ratio). So, if you go to a doc and say the right things and especially if you are in your 30s, it seems like, “oh yeah the dude’s getting older, TRT seems cool”, heck you could even say yeah his natural testosterone levels are below average, say .7:1 or something. But now since he has testosterone that he can give to himself, can’t he go way beyond 1:1 and get to 5:1 cuz that’s still technically acceptable ??? (Alistair was 14:1, that’s why he got in trouble and there was no weaseling out of it for him)

yang_vp85 Says, in 7-13-2012 at 02:36:42 from    

wth? “the knee, while legal, was still a cheap shot.” wtf? i have never heard of that one before. haha.

“that uppercut, while legal, was a cheap shot.”

King Says, in 7-23-2012 at 02:49:34 from    

I swear people act like Sonnen was their brother or dad. Someone said it perfectly. Let’s Anderson wipe off some grease off his face onto his body. Sonnen does take downs from the waist down to double leggers. Your point is voided. Sonnen has one dimentional submissions which I’m sure Anderson wasn’t worried about. Since he got off the performance juice his cardio sucks ass as seen in the Bisping fight. The first round ground and pound sucked and non effective due to great ground defense. Perfect fights don’t go the way we want it to happen. Win is a win at the end of the day.


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