Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum 2 Fight Video Strikeforce

Both looked very bad here. Overeem was gun-shy and Werdum should change his nickname to “Cai Cavalo” as all he did was fall down. If he stood up a bit more, he could have outscored Overeem.
After this fight, I really believe both “” and Kharitonov have a legitimate chance to win this thing. Actually, even Big Foot might have a chance against Overeem. He is much bigger and a little faster than Werdum.

Damn what a boring fight Was thinkin Overeem was gonna kill this guy ASAP

werdum should be punished for this s*** like give his purse to charity or something because he didnt earn it.

Overeem is still one of the best. He just held back and was careful because of the style of the match up. If this was kickboxing bout Alistair would have easily knocked him out within the first round. To say Alistair is not one of the best because he didn’t knock someone out in one fight and got a decision win is ridiculous and shows lack of knowledge of fighting. Bottom line.

top heavyweights in the world? thats a laugh Dos Santos would destroy all four of these boso’s in the same night. Brock lesner could beat those guys. That was weak……

As if any of the UFC heavy weight fights have been all that lately. Get real.

Cecil Peoples strikes again. Verdum clearly won the 1st round.

Get rid of these boxing judges and bring in some SAMBO judges to judge MMA instead.

Credit should be given for each time Overeem stuffed Werdum’s take down attempts.
Credit should be given for each time Overeem threw Werdum down.
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so many fighters would have been hopelessly caught by Werdum’s very first take down.

c’mon there are rules and everything, but repeatedly falling on your back is not considered fighting to me

what a disappointing fight that was, Overeem did impress in the first round with his take down defense and striking. But was it just me or did both fighters begin to gas after the 1st round???
Werdum should be punished for the way he lay on floor and tried to rest when getting back up. As for Overeem he needs to work on his conditioning if he was fighting a JDS or Cain he would have lost this fight and possibly been stopped. Best heavyweight in the world??? No way!

Why do most of you guys commenting even watch fights at this level of competition? It’s not rock em sock em robots – get a clue.

Dos Santos, Velasques or Carwin could all beat Overeem or Werdum IMHO.

If you fast forward every 30 seconds it is the same thing over and over. That was embarrassing. Werdum should have been deducted 10 percent of his purse for that showing. Throw a punch fall on my back. Throw a kick fall on my back. Crawl around the ring. Act like a bitch. Try to pull guard. F**k I use like watching Strikeforce until the UFC purchased it. Dana must whisper in all the fighters ear. Hey fight like a p****, eek out a decision get your win bonus and go home to your family with a fat wallet and the look of a defeated man/p**** who is too scared to let it all hang out in the ring. Good night Strikefarce.

amazing takedown defense by overeem. i dunno, i really enjoyed the fight.

Odd fight. Seems Werdum is overly confident in his BJJ and Overeem is seriously fearful of it. Playing it safe won the fight for Overeem nonetheless. Watching Werdum lay on his back and Overeem all but help him to his feet made for an unusually lame fight. I guess you can’t fault Overeem for following a strategy that resulted in a win, but he sure did not win any fans.

How did overeem win anyway? I counted about 10 shots that were effective by him. While Verdum was landing more shots and attempting more subs.

I hate to admit it but maybe dana white really does know what he’s talking about. go figure….

Congrats to the reem. He fought a smart fight,. Werdum is boring and was not wiiling to fight. In fact, I do respect Werdums BJJ skillz but this is MMA. He should get punished by the ref( on the scoringcards- deducting of purse- etc) for delaying the fight and his unwillingness. Bad after fight interview…very bad. Bad job by the ref- therefore the fight was stucky without any flow.Werdum has not enough power in his strikes, but he had some -not many-flurrys. Overeem took some shots which didn#t affect him, but with an other guy he should watch out fighting like that. All in one- not the best performance by Overeem. But he did it.

a couple of you said werdum won that first round. I thought he may have won the third if any. They should definately start docking people like werdum for stalling that was a disgrace. train for 15 minutes come on these guys may have fought a total of five minutes that whole fight. the rest of the time was chest on chest and werdum getting up. for those five minute overeem tossed werdum to the ground over and over. I don’t think I would have given any of those rounds to werdum Overeem dominated where that entire fight took place. ring prescence overeem striking overeem and grappling overeem. Werdum only through 2 subs and overeem had more throughs than a pitcher in a complete game plus he took his back once. How do you not score this fight 30 27 werdum was litterally begging him to go to the ground praying please please. come on that was a joke.

Over roid can kill lesser opponents with devastating knees but a Jitz guy like Werdum was actually landing more punches. That tells me Reem isnt that good against non chumps.
Also, Gus Johnson is the most akward announcer ever. Someone please let him go. Bas can take over.

After all this, I think that Velasquez is by far the fastest and most complete HW around. Knowing that he also has the most powerful punch measured to date makes him a legit top of the food chain in the division.
JDS, Kharitonov, and Overeem lack ground game, especially wrestling, but JDS at least have decent BJJ.
Barnett is a great wrestler (MMA wrestler) and a decent overall fighter.
Big Foot is the variable here. He looked amazing during the second round against Fedor. But I’ve seen him looking really scared and pathetic before. So, which one is the true Pezao?
So, as HW ranking goes, this is my take for the moment (things can change pretty fast):

1. Cain Velasquez
2 and 3. Alistair Overeem and JDS
4 and 5. J. Barnett and S. Carwin
6. S. Kharitonov
7. Pezao
8. Frank Mir (he did beat Nelson without any trouble)
9. Fedor Emelianenko (can jump back to top 5 if he beats Hendo convincingly)
10. Brock Lesnar or F. Werdum (I think Brock would beat Werdum, but I am keeping both here until their next fights. I need to see if Brock learned how to take a punch and if Werdum found his balls).

Again, this is a momentary ranking, not of all time or anything longer than the last 4 years.

huffin’ n’ puffin’ at the end there

Nobody won here.. strikeforce sucks dick.. lay down, get up, swing miss ..ring circles, Ive seen teenagers fight harder than this.. come to the UFC guys and get destroyed

Well – for me it didn’t make sense. Two guys who don’t want to go at it, and at some brief moments Werdum outstriking motionless and covering up Overeem. I understand how difficult it is to hit someone who constantly drops to his ass, but there were periods when Werdum was standing there and throwing punches. In my book there is no explnanation for Overeem not taking him outta there in the 2nd/3rd. I understand that he’s not Dos Santos, and that styles make fights, and all that, but Werdum was nothing special there. Just practicing ass-drop. I suspect that Reem was just gun shy and dead scared to get caught in something. This is why he was standing there like posing to leaonardo da vinci sculpture. I honestly believe that this version of Overeem will get annihilated by Dos Santos. Funnily enought there were moments where Werdum was actually outstriking him. Had he some more power behind his punches, it might have gotten really bad for Alistair. Overall dissapointment, yet I understand that Werdum’s nonsense ‘jiu-jitsu’ didn’t help here. I start to believe that just as Rogers built his career off knocking out over the hill Arlovsky, Werdum built his off catching over the hill Emelianenko, who hurt him and went carelessly balls to the wall to finish him up.

@Rear Naked Smoke AKA Hands of Stoned, I was thinking the same thing. Werdum is a black belt in Jiu Jitsu and for some reason never closed his guard. All Overeem had to do was sit back and stand up… I can undersatnd that if Werdum was moving his hips for a submission or a sweep, but i didnt see any of that. Overeem’s base was horrible, Werdum could have easily rolled him.

Overall, I thought this was a very entertaining fight. In my opinion Werdum got robbed. Looks like the key to beating Overeem is to mix it up instead of just banging it out with him. Overeem looks like all he trains for is the first round knock out. In my opinion, He just got exposed and will get defeated soon.

Werdum got robbed. Landed way more punches and knees and had the heel bar connected at the end. MMA is not a slug fest, although all the events around are trying hard fot it to be.

just watched it a second time and it was just as boring this time, overeem should have been looking for more uppercuts as werdum was telegraphing the takedown, and werdum should have been deducted points for stalling.

I’m going to give Reem the whole tournament to decide on where I place him. That was shocking. He really has to let loose with his punches more. That style he used in k-1 is not going to work in mma. JDS will pepper him and Cain will pressure him from bell to bell.

He needs to adjust his striking defence and offence, and I’ll have to wait to see if he does. He hits harder than most of these guys, so if he decides to adjust, he has all the necessary tools to be the best.

But if he sticks to this style, Bigfoot might beat him, Barnett should beat him, and JDS and Cain would simply be in a different class altogether.

I’m still a huge fan, but I want to see him unload more, throw more combos, make people miss, not believe that stalking that big shot is sufficient, I mean Chuck used to do that, but he’d hit back in the meantime and avoid shots. To simply stand there and cover up until that big haymaker is not going to work in mma.

And he’ll need to double his cardio work. I don’t remember the last time I saw someone so winded during a post fight interview. “f-f-forty pounds….*puff puff*….. of….of w-w-whipasssss…… *wheeze*” – that was embarrassing.

While we’re at it, he should have never given into that showmanship hype. Adding 40 lbs is not a skill, it’s nothing to boast about as though that was his best asset.

I’m still holding the faith though. He can make those adjustments if he’s serious and I still believe he is. I’m holding the faith.