Comments on: Alistair Overeem Talks About Positive Test – Says “I’m A Clean Fighter”

By: mory

mory — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 23:46:08 +0000

I believe everyone is testing. BUT! they kind of have to though cause the way they train there body’s every day will reduce there test levels. And Allister has the body type of a bodybuilder and you cant blame him for that

By: Exx

Exx — Sun, 01 Jul 2012 12:22:22 +0000

The Reem is the number one.

By: Op_of_faith

Op_of_faith — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:11:45 +0000

@Tempted-You are correct, Sir. I’ve just seen that most fighters I’ve encountered are in the “sacrifice for the sport” mode, so health concerns are not on the table (though they should be). While I get where you’re going we both know that most Athletes will look for what ever advantage they can get…I really don’t think it can be stopped.

As far as the sport goes-I think it sucks that a GREAT fighter can lose to a GOOD fighter because one of them is on “T”. This is why I think disclosure is the best model. IF an athlete doesn’t care about their health or future (many seem not to-stupidity of youth IMO)then as long as they are forced to disclose the other fighters and organization can make a choice about whether to sanction the fight.

By: Tempted

Tempted — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:02:13 +0000

I can’t afford to eat, sleep, train. I have a full time 3rd shift job and am a well worked independent automotive technician during the day. I am also a smaller guy, fighting at 155 mostly(though my next is at 145) and 5’8″ so that amount would more than likely make me look like Roseanne Barr. I am very against the use of actual steroids in the sport. The reason isn’t an advantage or anything performance based, but because of what they do. It is no secret that they enlarge your muscles, but what people don’t think about is your heart. Your heart is a muscle and overuse of steroids enlarge it as well, leading to inevitable chronic heart issues(cardiomyopathy). While professional athletes may choose physical strengths over longevity I don’t think it is healthy to knowingly allow it. Every kid wants to be a pro athlete and will do exactly what their idols do to get there.

By: Op_of_faith

Op_of_faith — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:21:20 +0000

@ruddo293-

A lot of Semi-Pro and Amateurs do fall into that category (People who eat/sleep/train). This is why a lot of them are broke. The ones I’ve dealt with are usually Personal Trainers, Club Bouncers or “Body Gaurd” types. Most are living off their Girlfriends or Parents. At least from what I’ve dealt with…7K is high…I’ve never had anyone go over 3.5K (but I’ve never trained anyone over 6’5″…

DUMBdUCKS overall point is accurate and one I’ve made before-you don’t HAVE to use illegal substances to get big. Plenty of fighters are using-that’s no secret. The funny thing is (and not a conversation to have here-most people on this board don’t get it) is that HGH is GREAT for injury repair/tissue growth stimulation. I personally think it SHOULD be legal off season and up until 6 weeks out from an event.

Once again, you have to give Overeem props for agreeing to random testing. I kind of doubt that he would KNOWINGLY agree to that and then use…I don’t know that he has NEVER used (I suspect he has) but no one with any sense would agree to random witnessed testing and then stay on cycles…

By: ruddo293

ruddo293 — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:24:47 +0000

@DUMBdUCKS – 7000 calories is a pretty high number to transform someone into a beast. While i agree it might work, i wonder who is willing to pretty much only train, eat and sleep. because in order to achieve those results, you got to be one dedicated fool…lol all in all, i agree, but that is just way too much calories, way too much food and most people don’t have that kind of money for the average person. Alistar, has very good genetics… I think he’s skills speak for itself, he’s a great fighter with or without the PEDS

By: rashad'smom

rashad'smom — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:43:11 +0000

probably the best HW on the planet but not sure if he’ll sell PPVs at this stage in his career….all i know is if he doesn’t beat JDS, AND he loses to Cain Velasquez, his UFC will soon be over…horse meat or not, this guy better keep winning, and winning impressively…not too smart to lie to your boss and piss him off

By: murell

murell — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:54:46 +0000

Sorry tempted,it is a steroid! and a very popular one,and OVEROID takes alot of it,but it’s ok he didnt know he was taking it,L.O.l just like eric witholder didnt know about fast and furious!

By: Op_of_faith

Op_of_faith — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:27:46 +0000

*1.1g/Kilo with food-regarding protein but I’m sure you get that…

By: Op_of_faith

Op_of_faith — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:08:12 +0000

@DUMBdUCKS, rockstarzee, Tempted, Ozinator-

We may disagree on other things but I think we can agree that there are a whole lot of people here who talk s*** about PEDs and fighting who don’t know s***. They have never done anything like it, but they will attack and discredit fighters (online) for things that THEY could NEVER DO.

@Dumbducks-I get what you’re doing with the numbers…pretty aggressive but it makes sense. I’ve shifted away from Protein loading and stick with Creatine. I tend not to focus on more than 1.1g/Kilo with food only (largely Probiotic based-Kefer and Yogurt to make sure as many nutrients digest as possible). I never do loading doses but just make it a regular part of the training supplementation-prework and pre-sleep on recovery days.